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Hi Diane, I’m not sure that it’s scarey. From what I can tell – I appear to be unlikely to have any deep nasty underlying cause. Should I be worrying about something else? As for the bodyfat – I guess being an Ob/GYN it wasn’t his field of expertise – it was only when surfing the ‘net I came across the body fat – ammenorhea link, so I may have to get that checked myself. Scarey or not – it is something I want to get sorted out – purely cos I hate having unexplained things floating around, and I’d like to know what’s going on! *grin* thanks for the prayers, I appreciate them. — krys UK 157/122/126 Started March 1st 2001 GOAL August 16th 2001 http://community.webshots.com/user/krystrot http://www.geocities.com/welcomenotice/index.html
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Krys, This is actually fairly scary, I think. Doesn’t your specialist have a way to test for body fat? Otherwise, most health food stores have a bioelectrical impedence test that you can take for a buck or two. Either that or check at your gym. How long has this been going on? Since March? Nearly a year? That seems to be pretty long to me. Good luck with this, I’ll keep you in my prayers. Best, Diane asdww FAQ: http://www.didian.com/asdww/ 185/150/145 (150 WW goal) Lifetime: 20 Feb 01
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thanks Roxan – I’ll check them out and see how I do 
— krys UK 157/122/126 Started March 1st 2001 GOAL August 16th 2001 http://community.webshots.com/user/krystrot http://www.geocities.com/welcomenotice/index.html
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Here is information on measuring body fat and the use of skinfold calipers. Roxan More info on ordering and measuring: http://www.enforcergraphics.f2s.com/bodyfat.htm hi guys as some as you may recall, since shortly after starting this WOL, my periods stopped, never to be seen again. Can’t say as I miss them, although it does have some impact on my libido, not having a natural cycle and all that. I saw the specialist guy today – and barring some further tests – he doesn’t think there’s any underlying cause for this, other than the diet + excercise. His feeling was that although I may be a healthy weight for my height, I may not be for my hormones. Now I’ve done a bit of ‘net surfing to look at this, and opinion seems to be that it’s only a problem if you have say 12% or below body fat – which I can’t imagine to be true in my case. So – a few questions – What’s a good way to measure body fat? Has anyone else experienced this, or know anything about it? Or do you know of any good resources where I could research further? Currently his prognosis appears to be test more, take some pills to force a period and see what that shows – and providing these show to live at this weight without them (increasing my risk of osteoporosis in they would reappear, though he couldn’t say how much I’d have to put on! (obviously I don’t find this an attractive option…) I have to say I’m not convinced. I reckon if left maintained and to its own devices for a while, my body would reassert itself……but I’m no expert. Any help would be hugely appreciated. Thanks for listening — krys UK 157/122/126 Started March 1st 2001 GOAL August 16th 2001 http://community.webshots.com/user/krystrot http://www.geocities.com/welcomenotice/index.html
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hi guys as some as you may recall, since shortly after starting this WOL, my periods stopped, never to be seen again. Can’t say as I miss them, although it does have some impact on my libido, not having a natural cycle and all that. I saw the specialist guy today – and barring some further tests – he doesn’t think there’s any underlying cause for this, other than the diet + excercise. His feeling was that although I may be a healthy weight for my height, I may not be for my hormones. Now I’ve done a bit of ‘net surfing to look at this, and opinion seems to be that it’s only a problem if you have say 12% or below body fat – which I can’t imagine to be true in my case. So – a few questions – What’s a good way to measure body fat? Has anyone else experienced this, or know anything about it? Or do you know of any good resources where I could research further? Currently his prognosis appears to be test more, take some pills to force a period and see what that shows – and providing these show live at this weight without them (increasing my risk of osteoporosis in would reappear, though he couldn’t say how much I’d have to put on! (obviously I don’t find this an attractive option…) I have to say I’m not convinced. I reckon if left maintained and to its own devices for a while, my body would reassert itself……but I’m no expert. Any help would be hugely appreciated. Thanks for listening — krys UK 157/122/126 Started March 1st 2001 GOAL August 16th 2001 http://community.webshots.com/user/krystrot http://www.geocities.com/welcomenotice/index.html
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Ballet students and gymnasts often lose their periods from the heavy exercise and diet. I lost mine after the first weight loss surgery when I lost 160 pounds in one year (1975), but when I sort of stabilized at 190 they came back. Then, of course, I started all the medical problems from that first surgery, and along the way had to have a total hysterectomy at age 42. I’ve heard that extreme weight gain in a short period also can stop periods. If your doctor has checked you out and sees no medical reason for your periods to stop, I wouldn’t worry about it. I suspect they’ll come back on their own in a few months. Until then, enjoy the freedom! Carol Schmidt
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – hi guys as some as you may recall, since shortly after starting this WOL, my periods stopped, never to be seen again. Can’t say as I miss them, although it does have some impact on my libido, not having a natural cycle and all that. I saw the specialist guy today – and barring some further tests – he doesn’t think there’s any underlying cause for this, other than the diet + excercise. His feeling was that although I may be a healthy weight for my height, I may not be for my hormones. Now I’ve done a bit of ‘net surfing to look at this, and opinion seems to be that it’s only a problem if you have say 12% or below body fat – which I can’t imagine to be true in my case. So – a few questions – What’s a good way to measure body fat? Has anyone else experienced this, or know anything about it? Or do you know of any good resources where I could research further? Currently his prognosis appears to be test more, take some pills to force a period and see what that shows – and providing these show live at this weight without them (increasing my risk of osteoporosis in would reappear, though he couldn’t say how much I’d have to put on! (obviously I don’t find this an attractive option…) I have to say I’m not convinced. I reckon if left maintained and to its own devices for a while, my body would reassert itself……but I’m no expert. Any help would be hugely appreciated. Thanks for listening — krys UK 157/122/126 Started March 1st 2001 GOAL August 16th 2001 http://community.webshots.com/user/krystrot http://www.geocities.com/welcomenotice/index.html
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I think he was an OB/GYN – guess I should have been paying more attention! *grin* I’ve been doing some research into possible causes – and have come across PCOS, some adrenal gland disorders, and lots of websites that seem convinced that having lost weight and my periods – I simply MUST be anorexic. I’m going to wait for all the tests to be done and come back – and then ask him about the things I’ve found to check that he’s ruled them out. Doctor’s must hate internet browsing patients! — krys UK 157/122/126 Started March 1st 2001 GOAL August 16th 2001 http://community.webshots.com/user/krystrot http://www.geocities.com/welcomenotice/index.html
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I saw the specialist guy today – and barring some further tests – he doesn’t think there’s any underlying cause for this, other than the diet + excercise. Can you say what type of specialist this was? Was he a reproductive endocrinologist or an OB/GYN? No big deal, I’m just curious. His feeling was that although I may be a healthy weight for my height, I may not be for my hormones. Now I’ve done a bit of ‘net surfing to look at this, and opinion seems to be that it’s only a problem if you have say 12% or below body fat – which I can’t imagine to be true in my case. That’s what I’ve always heard, that this was most common in women who participated in competitive sports. The active weight loss could be the cause still, even if you didn’t have very low body fat. See: http://www.womens-health.com/health_center/gynecology/gyn_md_amenor.html. Polycystic Ovarian Syndrome can also cause amenorrhea, but that’s usually associated with being overweight (although there are many women in the normal weight range with PCOS). So – a few questions – What’s a good way to measure body fat? I’ve heard that the Tanita scales are pretty accurate. I think that some gyms may also have the electronic versions that read from other locations in the body. I have heard that the old standard caliper measurement is not that accurate. Or do you know of any good resources where I could research further? You may want to broaden your search and not exclude other causes for this. You could have PCOS or some other problem causing the amenorrhea. Also, I recommend the book _Taking Charge of Your Fertility_ by Toni Weschler for studying your cycle (if you really want some detail). I have to say I’m not convinced. I reckon if left maintained and to its own devices for a while, my body would reassert itself……but I’m no expert. I also agree that giving your body time to adjust may be a big factor. It may just be that you need to settle in your new self. Jennifer Jennifer in Tempe
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Hi Carol, Yep – that’s pretty much my feeling too – that I should leave well alone and trust in my body. I guess I’ll take the pills the doctor prescribed and see if that brings one one (though I’m still considering that), but I’m really what the results say, and knowing the system here, that could be quite some time yet anyway! *grin* — krys UK 157/122/126 Started March 1st 2001 GOAL August 16th 2001 http://community.webshots.com/user/krystrot http://www.geocities.com/welcomenotice/index.html
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Ballet students and gymnasts often lose their periods from the heavy exercise and diet. I lost mine after the first weight loss surgery when I lost 160 pounds in one year (1975), but when I sort of stabilized at 190 they came back. Then, of course, I started all the medical problems from that first surgery, and along the way had to have a total hysterectomy at age 42. I’ve heard that extreme weight gain in a short period also can stop periods. If your doctor has checked you out and sees no medical reason for your periods to stop, I wouldn’t worry about it. I suspect they’ll come back on their own in a few months. Until then, enjoy the freedom! Carol Schmidt
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Hi Donna, As discussed on a previous post, I am cutting back on the excercise anyway, so it’ll be interesting to see what effect that has. I also am all done in the baby department – and how! My two are more than enough on some days I would like to have my periods back in some ways – were I hormonally normal again my libido might increase somewhat. Not having them is somehow de-feminising. And osteoporosis doesn’t appeal – though I’m not AFAIK in a high risk group to start with, so an increased risk might not be as bad as it sounds. Ho hum – I guess I’ll have to wait and see what the results, and time, bring. Thanks for your input — krys UK 157/122/126 Started March 1st 2001 GOAL August 16th 2001 http://community.webshots.com/user/krystrot http://www.geocities.com/welcomenotice/index.html
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi Krys Can’t really provide any answers here, but if it were me, I would hold out for nature to take it’s course, and maybe cut back on the exercise….but, it depends on what reason you want your period to return. I’m done in the baby department, so a reprieve from my period would be a nice change of pace…….as long as I didn’t feel awful because of it….I’m probably also about 4 years. Donna C
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Here is information on measuring body fat and the use of skinfold calipers. Roxan More info on ordering and measuring: http://www.enforcergraphics.f2s.com/bodyfat.htm
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – hi guys as some as you may recall, since shortly after starting this WOL, my periods stopped, never to be seen again. Can’t say as I miss them, although it does have some impact on my libido, not having a natural cycle and all that. I saw the specialist guy today – and barring some further tests – he doesn’t think there’s any underlying cause for this, other than the diet + excercise. His feeling was that although I may be a healthy weight for my height, I may not be for my hormones. Now I’ve done a bit of ‘net surfing to look at this, and opinion seems to be that it’s only a problem if you have say 12% or below body fat – which I can’t imagine to be true in my case. So – a few questions – What’s a good way to measure body fat? Has anyone else experienced this, or know anything about it? Or do you know of any good resources where I could research further? Currently his prognosis appears to be test more, take some pills to force a period and see what that shows – and providing these show live at this weight without them (increasing my risk of osteoporosis in would reappear, though he couldn’t say how much I’d have to put on! (obviously I don’t find this an attractive option…) I have to say I’m not convinced. I reckon if left maintained and to its own devices for a while, my body would reassert itself……but I’m no expert. Any help would be hugely appreciated. Thanks for listening — krys UK 157/122/126 Started March 1st 2001 GOAL August 16th 2001 http://community.webshots.com/user/krystrot http://www.geocities.com/welcomenotice/index.html
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Krys, This is actually fairly scary, I think. Doesn’t your specialist have a way to test for body fat? Otherwise, most health food stores have a bioelectrical impedence test that you can take for a buck or two. Either that or check at your gym. How long has this been going on? Since March? Nearly a year? That seems to be pretty long to me. Good luck with this, I’ll keep you in my prayers. Best, Diane asdww FAQ: http://www.didian.com/asdww/ 185/150/145 (150 WW goal) Lifetime: 20 Feb 01 – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -hi guys as some as you may recall, since shortly after starting this WOL, my periods stopped, never to be seen again. Can’t say as I miss them, although it does have some impact on my libido, not having a natural cycle and all that. I saw the specialist guy today – and barring some further tests – he doesn’t think there’s any underlying cause for this, other than the diet + excercise. His feeling was that although I may be a healthy weight for my height, I may not be for my hormones. Now I’ve done a bit of ‘net surfing to look at this, and opinion seems to be that it’s only a problem if you have say 12% or below body fat – which I can’t imagine to be true in my case. So – a few questions – What’s a good way to measure body fat? Has anyone else experienced this, or know anything about it? Or do you know of any good resources where I could research further? Currently his prognosis appears to be test more, take some pills to force a period and see what that shows – and providing these show live at this weight without them (increasing my risk of osteoporosis in would reappear, though he couldn’t say how much I’d have to put on! (obviously I don’t find this an attractive option…) I have to say I’m not convinced. I reckon if left maintained and to its own devices for a while, my body would reassert itself……but I’m no expert. Any help would be hugely appreciated. Thanks for listening — krys UK 157/122/126 Started March 1st 2001 GOAL August 16th 2001 http://community.webshots.com/user/krystrot http://www.geocities.com/welcomenotice/index.html
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I saw the specialist guy today – and barring some further tests – he doesn’t think there’s any underlying cause for this, other than the diet + excercise.
Can you say what type of specialist this was? Was he a reproductive endocrinologist or an OB/GYN? No big deal, I’m just curious. His feeling was that although I may be a healthy weight for my height, I may not be for my hormones. Now I’ve done a bit of ‘net surfing to look at this, and opinion seems to be that it’s only a problem if you have say 12% or below body fat – which I can’t imagine to be true in my case.
That’s what I’ve always heard, that this was most common in women who participated in competitive sports. The active weight loss could be the cause still, even if you didn’t have very low body fat. See: http://www.womens-health.com/health_center/gynecology/gyn_md_amenor.html. Polycystic Ovarian Syndrome can also cause amenorrhea, but that’s usually associated with being overweight (although there are many women in the normal weight range with PCOS). So – a few questions – What’s a good way to measure body fat?
I’ve heard that the Tanita scales are pretty accurate. I think that some gyms may also have the electronic versions that read from other locations in the body. I have heard that the old standard caliper measurement is not that accurate. Or do you know of any good resources where I could research further?
You may want to broaden your search and not exclude other causes for this. You could have PCOS or some other problem causing the amenorrhea. Also, I recommend the book _Taking Charge of Your Fertility_ by Toni Weschler for studying your cycle (if you really want some detail). I have to say I’m not convinced. I reckon if left maintained and to its own devices for a while, my body would reassert itself……but I’m no expert.
I also agree that giving your body time to adjust may be a big factor. It may just be that you need to settle in your new self. Jennifer Jennifer in Tempe
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Hi Krys Can’t really provide any answers here, but if it were me, I would hold out for nature to take it’s course, and maybe cut back on the exercise….but, it depends on what reason you want your period to return. I’m done in the baby department, so a reprieve from my period would be a nice change of pace…….as long as I didn’t feel awful because of it….I’m probably also about 4 years. Donna C
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – hi guys as some as you may recall, since shortly after starting this WOL, my periods stopped, never to be seen again. Can’t say as I miss them, although it does have some impact on my libido, not having a natural cycle and all that. I saw the specialist guy today – and barring some further tests – he doesn’t think there’s any underlying cause for this, other than the diet + excercise. His feeling was that although I may be a healthy weight for my height, I may not be for my hormones. Now I’ve done a bit of ‘net surfing to look at this, and opinion seems to be that it’s only a problem if you have say 12% or below body fat – which I can’t imagine to be true in my case. So – a few questions – What’s a good way to measure body fat? Has anyone else experienced this, or know anything about it? Or do you know of any good resources where I could research further? Currently his prognosis appears to be test more, take some pills to force a period and see what that shows – and providing these show live at this weight without them (increasing my risk of osteoporosis in would reappear, though he couldn’t say how much I’d have to put on! (obviously I don’t find this an attractive option…) I have to say I’m not convinced. I reckon if left maintained and to its own devices for a while, my body would reassert itself……but I’m no expert. Any help would be hugely appreciated. Thanks for listening — krys UK 157/122/126 Started March 1st 2001 GOAL August 16th 2001 http://community.webshots.com/user/krystrot http://www.geocities.com/welcomenotice/index.html
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Hi everyone.. I am 21, live with my parents, am still under my father’s health plan and am the one who hasnt told my mom yet about my PCOS… anyway, my dad’s plan switched to Healthlink and they will not cover my birth control pills even with my letter of necessity (they say because it is a brand name drug that they wont cover it– I am taking Mircette).. and then we got a letter in the mail today and they are not going to cover my last office visit which was only a 6 month check up and that is when he did the glucose/insulin ratio test.. the bill was $75 and the letter said that they would cover nothing and that they do not cover such conditions/services and to check our handbook for details… has anyone had similar problems as this?? My last insurance company covered all of this and I am getting so upset.. now i will have to tell my mom everything, especially if she is gonna call the insurance company and complain to them, and she doesnt even understand what is wrong with me… any suggestions?? similar situations with a remedy??? thanks for any help…. Becky
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Hopefully it is just a matter of your doctor putting in a wrong diagnosis code or something equivalent. If your insulin came back high or your bloodsugar high. You may be able to claim it as insulin resistance. Not PCOS. Which can sometimes look like your treating fertility. Maybe if your doctor puts in a letter to your insurance that the birth control isn’t used for fertility issues, that is used to treat a medical condition instead. If I am not mistaken you make have to file some sort of grievance letter to the insurance. ( ladies please help me out with this one). Best of luck to you. Donna "Beckers123" <beckers…@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20010328233223.19763.00001318@ng-cb1.aol.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hi everyone.. I am 21, live with my parents, am still under my father’s health > plan and am the one who hasnt told my mom yet about my PCOS… anyway, my dad’s > plan switched to Healthlink and they will not cover my birth control pills even > with my letter of necessity (they say because it is a brand name drug that they > wont cover it– I am taking Mircette).. and then we got a letter in the mail > today and they are not going to cover my last office visit which was only a 6 > month check up and that is when he did the glucose/insulin ratio test.. the > bill was $75 and the letter said that they would cover nothing and that they do > not cover such conditions/services and to check our handbook for details… > has anyone had similar problems as this?? My last insurance company covered > all of this and I am getting so upset.. now i will have to tell my mom > everything, especially if she is gonna call the insurance company and complain > to them, and she doesnt even understand what is wrong with me… any > suggestions?? similar situations with a remedy??? thanks for any help…. > Becky
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Thank you for your response.. we have sent a letter to the insurance company about the birth control and my last insurance provider covered them, but this one will not, even after 2 letters being sent to them.. and i was diagnosed with insulin resistance.. but i am not sure what he used as a code or whatever.. i guess i will have to give the doc’s office a call.. the doc in online right now, but i would hate to bother him… thanks and any other input would be greatly appreciated.. 
) Becky
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The easiest thing for you to do is to switch to a generic birth control pill. If your insurance company doesn’t cover brand name BCPS they won’t make an exception for you, unless perhaps you’ve tried all of their covered generic brands and had side effects. There are numerous very good generic birth control pills on the market do not hesitate to change. As for getting your insurance company to cover your visit, you’ll need to read the information they sent you to see if they cover preventative service and/or problem visits. That will be the major issue. Your doctor’s office can contact the insurance company. They can also resubmit your bill if they made a mistake in coding. Contacting your doc online won’t help you. You need to talk to his insurance billing person! Good luck!! Insurance companies can be such a pain. Susan – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Thank you for your response.. we have sent a letter to the insurance company >about the birth control and my last insurance provider covered them, but this >one will not, even after 2 letters being sent to them.. and i was diagnosed >with insulin resistance.. but i am not sure what he used as a code or >whatever.. i guess i will have to give the doc’s office a call.. the doc in >online right now, but i would hate to bother him… thanks and any other >input >would be greatly appreciated.. ) Becky
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One of the best pieces of advice that I have read here was to not worry about all the small stuff and to only worry about providing a loving and caring environment for your child. In other words, don’t decide how long and all the ins and outs of how you are going to do something just always provide and with love. You want to provide your son with a sibling and I just kind of think that he kind of knows this and has decided to make it easy for you. It’s not that it is so easy for everyone but you but they all know what result you are looking for. You are probably feeling bummed as you wanted everything to happen seamlessly and you wanted to be everything to everyone. But from their actions and support they are showing you that you are doing fine at being everything to your family. Brenjo (EDD#1 3/12/00)
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Oh my gosh! You should feel just wonderful, victorious, and superwoman-like for nursing as long as you did. You are doing NOTHING wrong. Look at your DS. You did that and it’s wonderful. Go make another one. :) Rebecca Mommy to Noah, born February 3,1999 (5 weeks early) To respond take away "nospamno"
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Wow, I can really sympathize with you! I am nursing my 17 mo. dd, and so far I haven’t had a full period…my last period was in August of ‘97 right before she was conceived. I know that if we had a solid plan for when we’d have our next baby, I would probably be in your same shoes. Unfortunately, our circumstances make the idea of planning a baby out of the question…so I guess "Nature" is giving me a hand. All I can think of is "Boy, what would I do if now was the time we wanting to have our second baby?" I would be oh-so-bummed…so I know right where you’re coming from!! Hugs to you… I, on the other hand, feel awful! I feel – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -like I’ve let him down by not weaning on his schedule, even though I know it’s because I don’t want him & sibs to be too far apart. DH is sympathetic, but at something of a loss as to why I’m so bummed. I guess I am too, really, since Gabriel isn’t having a problem with it all.
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I wanted to have child led weaning; but when #2 was 3 mo old, she would have milk hosing out of her nose when she latched on, choking and spluttering. I reluctantly weaned #1 who was then 46 mo. I look at him now, nearly five and still feel sad about "letting him go". He has forgotten how to latch on now and is happy that "titties" are for his sister. My friend’s little boy is 51/2 and still nursed to sleep. He doesn’t (and won’t have sibs). I guess some of us want the experience to last forever and are sad when it ends. Janet.
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{…} the only problem is my stupid menstrual cycle! I was pretty happy with having it suppressed at first, and thought it would return as Gabriel nursed less frequently and ate more table food, but no dice. I’m on day 80 of the 4th cycle I’ve had in the last two years (36, 83, 47 and 80-so-far)
There was something on daytime TV today that reminded me of this. A caller rang in to the programme’s resident GP to say that she had been diagnosed with Polycystic Ovarian Syndrome and could he explain what that was. I have read a bit about this, but I didn’t realise that it can kick in after giving birth. In short, it can lead to irregular periods (the caller had only had three in three years) and difficulty in conceiving. I also didn’t realise that it can be treated successfully. The usual course of action is the Pill!! although he said that there were other ways around it. So I don’t know if it’s worth asking your doctor about it? Four periods in two years does sound a bit strange. Other than that, I’m really sorry to hear about your difficulties in conceiving and how bad you feel about weaning your son. :-( Denise
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Thanks to everyone who replied, I appreciate it. :-) Denise, I’m aware of PCOS, but like you did not realize it could develop after a pregnancy. I don’t have any of the symptoms other than being overweight (but I’ve always been overweight <lol), but it would be worth mentioning to my doctor. Thanks again! __ Gabriel’s mom 10-28-97 http://home.earthlink.net/~zarah/malaguti/ Independent consultant, Usborne Books at Home Independent distributor, Dorling Kindersley Family Learning
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I have a friend that has five kids ages 3 weeks old,2,4,9, and 11 years. She hasn’t had her period for five years. It took my husband and I a year to have our second.My daughter was almost three when we found out I was finally pregnant.Its so great that you’ve already weaned yours. I made a mistake and waited until I was pregnant.And the pressure to stop nursing was really hard on me and my daughter.Not to mention when your pregnant your already over emotional. Your doing great planning for the future. Mair
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It’s been a LONG time since I posted here, but couldn’t think of a better place to come for a bit of sympathy. :-) I had every intention of following child-led weaning and practicing the family bed until Gabriel decided to leave; the only problem is my stupid menstrual cycle! I was pretty happy with having it suppressed at first, and thought it would return as Gabriel nursed less frequently and ate more table food, but no dice. I’m on day 80 of the 4th cycle I’ve had in the last two years (36, 83, 47 and 80-so-far) and things just aren’t cooperating in the new-baby-making department. I had hoped to be pregnant by now; now I’m hoping for #2 to be born before Gabriel is 3. Soooo, he’s sleeping on his futon beside our bed, and "nursin’ is all gone." :-( He actually likes his futon, and loves to jump in bed with Dad in the morning for snuggles while I’m getting ready for school. The weaning was tougher; I led up to it as I’ve seen suggested, letting him know each night that on such & such day it would be all gone, snuggling to sleep instead of nursing from then on etc. He was grumpy the first night or two, and when he was tired or bumped his head the next few days he asked for "nurse-een" but he’s gotten past it quite well. I, on the other hand, feel awful! I feel like I’ve let him down by not weaning on his schedule, even though I know it’s because I don’t want him & sibs to be too far apart. DH is sympathetic, but at something of a loss as to why I’m so bummed. I guess I am too, really, since Gabriel isn’t having a problem with it all. Thanks for listening to me vent! __ Gabriel’s mom 10-28-97 http://home.earthlink.net/~zarah/malaguti/ Independent consultant, Usborne Books at Home Independent distributor, Dorling Kindersley Family Learning
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Thanks – any idea which drugs? I’m already on glucophage – and so far, the oily skin, body hair and weight has started to go away… but not dramatically. Should I force the RE to check my hormone level again? He wants me to lose more weight before I try anything else… or should I just switch RE’s? After 2 failed IVF’s – I don’t think I can do it again.
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<Snip According to my doctor, when I was diagnosed, the only thing that can be done is to go on birth control pills that will regulate the sex hormones, but if you are trying to get pregnant, there’s a whole host of drugs to start with before IVF is needed.
Your doctor is terribly misinformed; low-carbing, insulin sensitizing drugs, exercise and other things can all regulate the hormones by controlling the root cause. Chances are, a birth control pill will only make PCOS worse, and even if it doesn’t it just masks the icky cosmetic symptoms. I’d hate to see anyone diagnosed with PCOS told that BCP are the only thing available for hormonal regulation. Beth — Beth’s PCO Page http://www.win.bright.net/~mickbeth/pco.htm
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Is there anything the RE can do for high hormone levels? I am on Glucophage – it seems to be working on the blood insulin, but I’m not sure about the hormone levels. Its guess work on my part until August 18. I’m getting AF on time (3 cycles 35 days, this one 30 days – so I guess I’m back to normal) – think I should start with the OPK again? Or should I just be patient and wait until the RE says okay? He doesn’t think IVF will be necessary if I can get the hormone level back to normal… any ideas on how to do that? Is he treating me with right way? HELP!!! Evelyn 4.5 yrs TTC 2 failed IVF (9/98, 1/99) Currently 4 mos on Glucophage for insulin resistance
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High testosterone, but everything else normal is a big warning flag for Poly-Cystic Ovary Syndrome (PCOS). The outward symptoms are not having a period regularly, oily skin, body hair, difficulty in losing weight, and mood swings. According to my doctor, when I was diagnosed, the only thing that can be done is to go on birth control pills that will regulate the sex hormones, but if you are trying to get pregnant, there’s a whole host of drugs to start with before IVF is needed.
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I have been referred to this newsgroup by someone on the PCO group. I had my first visit with my new RE yesterday and he performed a vaginal ultrasound. During the examination, he said that my uterus was seperated at the back and came together at the front. What is this, what does it mean, and is it treatable? Thank you, Heather
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DID HE NOT GO INTO AN EXPLANATION?
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Perhaps he said it was "septate" instead of "separated"? A septate uterus means that it has a septum dividing it in half (or some portion). The septum may or may not interfere with carrying a pregnancy, but most of the time Drs remove them. This will most likely be done during a hysteroscopy. I hope this offers some explanation and help. (?) Melissa – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I have been referred to this newsgroup by someone on the PCO group. I had my first visit with my new RE yesterday and he performed a vaginal ultrasound. During the examination, he said that my uterus was seperated at the back and came together at the front. What is this, what does it mean, and is it treatable? Thank you, Heather
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I have had the fasting Insuline/Glucose test. That showed that it was where it is supposed to be. So, Dr. says that he cannot put me on Met. I have read an Article from a Dr. online that I can be put on it b/c it will not affect my blood sugars at all. That Dr.’s are putting heavy non-diabetic patients on this to just lose weight. If this is safe enough for them then why is it not safe for me? I am just about at wits end with this Dr. He did not even know about Metformin until February when I TOLD HIM ABOUT IT!!! I took in all my print-outs from here and showed him. He wants to put me on bcp’s. I say NO. I have been on them since I was 15 (now 29) at different times in my life and they just screw up cycles even worse. I have just heard about pco in December on Dateline. Now I cannot find a Dr. (rural area) that even knows any off the up to date tests or treatments. Here it is either bcp’s or hysterectomy (these are their solutions for me). But since i have no isuline resistance he says that I cannot be put on Met. I have to disagree with him b/c I have read differently. Has anybody else ran into this with their Dr.? I really need answers. I know that Met will do nothing to my sugars. So, why not? He has no answer for that and says that it will make me Diabetic. Can somebody answer for me? Thanks…Tracy… Oh, by the way he did put me on Provera for 10 days to start my cycle (over a month ago) and nothing yet. It has been well over 2 years since last cycle…Told me to diet and excersize and all will be fine… –== Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ ==– —Share what you know. Learn what you don’t.—
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I believe being on Met does affect blood sugar level or else they would not prescribe it to diabetics. It’s true that it will not help if your insulin levels are normal.
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>I believe being on Met does affect blood sugar level or else they would not >prescribe it to diabetics.
Metformin helps diabetics in 2 ways 1) It interferes with the absorption of carbs therefore the blood sugar will not spike up as it might do in a diabetic without medication. For some diabetics this is enough help. Other diabetics may be severly IR and need to watch their diet (which they should do anyhow), add another medication or even combine insulin with Metformin. 2)It inhibits the release of glucogan from the liver. Many diabetics suffer from the "dawn phenomenon" in which thier liver releases too much glucogan during the night causing morning highs. >It’s true that it will not help if your insulin >levels are normal.
I have known several "Cysters" who were not deemed IR by their RE’s who took Metformin and had restored ovulation. Metformin seems to have other benefits that could help a sufferer of PCO-it will lower blood pressure, blood lipid levels and help some Cysters lose weight. Also, I have known Cysters who had "normal" levels when tested the first time and then when tested later had elevated levels. Hormones can flucuate. Was there not someone who posted to this ng said they had normal levels until given a clamp GTT? Dr. Charles Glueck has performed various studies with metformin. Dr. Glueck said this on his website: "Do all PCOS patients have hyperinsulinemia and/or insulin resistance? No! Many (most) do, but some do not. Metformin and Rezulin are known to be effective when insulin resistance is present, and may be effective even in the absence of insulin resistance. Metformin and Rezulin are drugs for mature onset diabetes. Won’t there be problems with low blood sugar levels if they are given to PCOS patients who do not have diabetes? No! Both drugs, when given to persons with normal blood glucose, and without diabetes, do not lower blood sugar." IOW, it will ONLY affect your glucose levels if you ARE diabetic. http://blues.fd1.uc.edu/~gartsips/polycyst.htm ^–^ { ‘.’}cathy-to send e-mail, delete edyclub ` <A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Cottage/8060/index.html">My~WEB!</A><BR><A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Cottage/8060/PCOS.html">PCO-HOPE FOR CYSTERS</A></HTML>
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looking for some talk about drs with people that live in this area, i am looking for a dr and like to hear some stories of what they have found and i am also looking for a girl that i lost contact with her name is tammy and from this area, we talked about a dr in woodcliff lake, if you know her screen name pplease let me know thanks jeanne
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There are several RE’s in Northern NJ who have been mentioned in this NG that are using metformin- Dr. Scott Roseff in West Orange, IVF NJ in Somerset and St. Barnabas in Livingston. There are complete listings of RE’s on the site www.inciid.org – you can call and find out if they treat PCOS with metformin or rezulin.
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I am married to a type I diabetic. My husband is 37 and I am 27. We plan on having children, and am wondering if anyone might be able to inform me of the difficulties in conceving a child? If you like to have sex a lot it helps.
But then how would you know? You only have sex with your puter. Beanie, Type I (Humalog and Ultralente)
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I am married to a type I diabetic. My husband is 37 and I am 27. We plan on having children, and am wondering if anyone might be able to inform me of the difficulties in conceving a child?
If you like to have sex a lot it helps.
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I am married to a type I diabetic. My husband is 37 and I am 27. We plan on having children, and am wondering if anyone might be able to inform me of the difficulties in conceving a child?
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I am 26 years old and have had juvenile diabetes for 11 years. My husband and I are trying to start a family.
The first thing I would do is discuss it with your endo. If he/she is aware of your plans, they can help tailor a diet and insulin regimen geared toward beginning your pregnancy in the healthiest possible way. The second thing I would do is to check around for an OB specializing (or sub-specializing) in high risk pregnancies..especially diabetic pregnancies. Often a maternal-fetal specialist is also assigned (depending on your OB’s preferences and your insurance plan) to monitor the health of the fetus. I have to say that I am extremely scared about this. My Hb A1C is 6.8, but
many times my sugars can go out of range. I check my sugars about 4-6 times a day and use the insulin pump for better control. Dont stress it. Diabetes management during pregnancy has improved by tons over the last two decades. You will need to maintain optimum control over your blood sugar levels…especially in the first and last trimester. In the first trimester when all the organs and body parts are forming, very high BG levels can affect this process. If you slip up..dont stress too hard. My levels were very high 200-300 for my last two pregnancies in the first trimester (I didnt realize I was pregnant until the 2nd month) and it is very difficult sometimes to level things out quickly..but it can be done. Pregnancy causes the body to become very resistant to insulin and you will need to increase your insulin levels gradually over the duration of the pregnancy. if it is difficult to conceive and/or go through labor?
Diabetics have a higher incidence of difficulty becoming pregnant. It might take a little longer for you to get pregnant..then again..it might happen at the drop of a hat (or toothbrush…or pin..LOL.you choose). Fertility is a highly personal situation and noone can predict it. During the last trimester you will be monitored much more closely than normal patients. Every OB has a different High Risk protocol so you will need to check with them. Expect IV’s and a little more intervention tho. No big deal. Dont stress it too hard..stay healthy..and happy baby making Debbie
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: Hello! : : I am 26 years old and have had juvenile diabetes for 11 years. My husband : and I are trying to start a family. I have to say that I am extremely : scared about this. My Hb A1C is 6.8, but many times my sugars can go out of : range. I check my sugars about 4-6 times a day and use the insulin pump for : better control. : : Is there anyone out there that can tell me how difficult it is to keep : sugars under control during pregnancy and if it is difficult to conceive : and/or go through labor? The major problem that type 1 (juvenile) diabetics face in pregnancy is KETONES. Ketones have been shown to damage the fetus’ brain tissue. Part of the notable rise in the number of children needing special education is due (at least partially) to the rise of women dieting while they are pregnant, while not even knowing perhaps that they are pregnant. Dieting burns fat, and that produces these same ketones that diabetics make on one of their bad days. Therefore, before embarking on a pregnancy, a Type 1 diabetic woman should really investigate whether she can maintain tight enough control every day for at least 275 days, so as not to produce any significant amount of ketones in the urine (trace or less). Consistently negative measurements would be the best, of course. Skipping meals while pregnant is a bad idea as well, even for non-diabetics– ketones can start appearing from the body drawing on its fat reserves. This leads of course to weight gain during pregnancy, as everyone well knows. But it is justifiable for the sake of the child. The excess weight can be removed afterwards, even if medical supervision and assistance are needed. Harold : : Thanks! : : :
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Hello! I am 26 years old and have had juvenile diabetes for 11 years. My husband and I are trying to start a family. I have to say that I am extremely scared about this. My Hb A1C is 6.8, but many times my sugars can go out of range. I check my sugars about 4-6 times a day and use the insulin pump for better control. Is there anyone out there that can tell me how difficult it is to keep sugars under control during pregnancy and if it is difficult to conceive and/or go through labor? Thanks!
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We have the same problem. The thing is it’s impossible to know weather the few time that your sugar goes too high will effect your baby. Our pregnancy was unexpected so to begin with her sugar was way to high. 200-300 with some rare spikes of 300-600 (holidays) Fortunately, we found out she was expecting right away so we got her on insulin and have been able keep it normally under control. However sometimes it is as high as 200+. We just got a ultrasound and was happy to see things are so far OK (at least the things that they can see). The thing is what didn’t effect our kid could have devastating effect on your and via-versa. So the main this is PLAN!!!!!!! Talk to your doctor. However remember THIS IS YOUR CHOICE AND THIS IS WHAT YOU WANT. Make sure your doctor knows that this is what you want and that he has to work with you to have a baby, NOT PREVENT ONE. It sometimes seems that doctors often times don’t understand or want there diabetic patience to have babies. I know several people on insulin pumps that have had healthy babies, but remember that this will be a high risk pregnancy. There are lost of possible problems for you and the baby so you have to have a doctor that will work with you to keep your sugar down and under control. Good luck!!! If you want to see our baby go to http://hometown.aol.com//testivecho/BABY.html Sorry I haven’t been able to figure our how to put links into newgroup posts. Sherry and Jeffrey B.
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Hi Carla, I’m a diabetic woman and i have two children, one, a girl is 2 years and a boy he is 6 weeks old. both times i got pregnant very easy and both pregnancys did go very well. I am told to control my glucoses already before getting pregnant, because the first 6 weeks of an pregnancy are the most important to avoid problems on the child itself. During the whole pregnancy i controlled myself 10 t0 20 times a day to get a very stabil glucose and it worked, both kids are very healty and not overweight (often a problem with kids from a diabetic – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I was told last Monday that my fasting glucose was 162, insulin 44.6. The nurse who called to relay this wanted me to make an appointment to see the doctor. However, I had found out since having the blood drawn that I am pregnant. She really flipped when I told her that and said they would squeeze me in on Tuesday. SO now I am seven weeks pregnant and testing my blood 6 times a day and giving myself insulin shots twice a day. They say they don’t know whether to call this gestational diabetes or not because they don’t know what my sugars were like before. (I actually had the test done to check for insulin resistance related to PCOS and because I was starting the Atkins lowcarb diet). My question (well I have a million, but one of them…) is this: I miscarried in April at about 9 weeks. I have seen in several FAQ’s, web sites, various literature etc, that diabetics have a high rate of miscarriage as well as trouble getting pregnant. But no one talks about it other than to state the fact. Can someone point me to a source that discusses it more fully? I am very worried about this pregnancy resulting in a miscarriage as the previous one did. My endocrinologist simply replied the equivalent of sh*t happens when I asked him if this pregnancy was at risk because of the diabetes. Thanks for any assistance Carla
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I was told last Monday that my fasting glucose was 162, insulin 44.6. The nurse who called to relay this wanted me to make an appointment to see the doctor. However, I had found out since having the blood drawn that I am pregnant. She really flipped when I told her that and said they would squeeze me in on Tuesday. SO now I am seven weeks pregnant and testing my blood 6 times a day and giving myself insulin shots twice a day. They say they don’t know whether to call this gestational diabetes or not because they don’t know what my sugars were like before. (I actually had the test done to check for insulin resistance related to PCOS and because I was starting the Atkins lowcarb diet). My question (well I have a million, but one of them…) is this: I miscarried in April at about 9 weeks. I have seen in several FAQ’s, web sites, various literature etc, that diabetics have a high rate of miscarriage as well as trouble getting pregnant. But no one talks about it other than to state the fact. Can someone point me to a source that discusses it more fully? I am very worried about this pregnancy resulting in a miscarriage as the previous one did. My endocrinologist simply replied the equivalent of sh*t happens when I asked him if this pregnancy was at risk because of the diabetes. Thanks for any assistance Carla
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Carla, I have gestational diabetes (GDM), and hope I can be of some help. First, unfortunately, diabetes does put pregnancies at a greater risk, however, with close monitoring, this is minimalized. I am being seen at a clinic that specializes in high-risk pregnancies, and specifically pregnant diabetics. My appointments are once a week, I see the diabetes nurse, dietician and doctor each visit. If you can find a similar clinic, do so! I am currently controlled with diet, no insulin. Good luck, and let me know if you have any further questions. Elaine – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I was told last Monday that my fasting glucose was 162, insulin 44.6. The nurse who called to relay this wanted me to make an appointment to see the doctor. However, I had found out since having the blood drawn that I am pregnant. She really flipped when I told her that and said they would squeeze me in on Tuesday. SO now I am seven weeks pregnant and testing my blood 6 times a day and giving myself insulin shots twice a day. They say they don’t know whether to call this gestational diabetes or not because they don’t know what my sugars were like before. (I actually had the test done to check for insulin resistance related to PCOS and because I was starting the Atkins lowcarb diet). My question (well I have a million, but one of them…) is this: I miscarried in April at about 9 weeks. I have seen in several FAQ’s, web sites, various literature etc, that diabetics have a high rate of miscarriage as well as trouble getting pregnant. But no one talks about it other than to state the fact. Can someone point me to a source that discusses it more fully? I am very worried about this pregnancy resulting in a miscarriage as the previous one did. My endocrinologist simply replied the equivalent of sh*t happens when I asked him if this pregnancy was at risk because of the diabetes. Thanks for any assistance Carla
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I second what Mari Sullivan said in an earlier post. I have 2 healthy little girls. Have had Type I for almost 18 years. My girls are 5 and 3. A pregnancy coupled with Type I diabetes is high risk, but it’s well worth it. Like you, I was a few weeks pregnant before I found out too. My OB specialized in high risk pregnancies, especially diabetic pregnancies. I had way more OB visits, ultrasounds, and 2 amnios with each baby. Rather than finding them a hassle, I found the visits and tests very reassuring. With each one, I was reassured that my babies were okay and that my diabetes wasn’t harming them. Both were very healthy babies and are healthy little girls now. If you want to talk, let me know. I’ll try to answer any questions I can. Linda Wilson – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I just found out that I am 10 weeks pregnant. I am also a type I diabetic. Has anyone had any experiences with pregnancy and diabetes. Does anyone have any details of past risks and results. I am concerned with the risks to the baby by not knowing I was pregnant for 10 weeks. Any past experiences would be helpful.
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I just found out that I am 10 weeks pregnant. I am also a type I diabetic. Has anyone had any experiences with pregnancy and diabetes. Does anyone have any details of past risks and results. I am concerned with the risks to the baby by not knowing I was pregnant for 10 weeks. Any past experiences would be helpful.
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writes: I just found out that I am 10 weeks pregnant. I am also a type I diabetic. Has anyone had any experiences with pregnancy and diabetes. Does anyone have any details of past risks and results. I am concerned with the risks to the baby by not knowing I was pregnant for 10 weeks. Any past experiences would be helpful.
If you found out by going to a physician, you should already be in possession of information that should ease your concerns and help prepare you for the future. By all means, if this is not the case, you need to go to your obstetrician at once. You will likely be able to carry your child safely to term and deliver a healthy baby, but you will need to be followed closely by your OB. As a nurse who has cared for some twenty type I’s during their pregnancy and delivery, I offer you this: control during pregnancy is not difficult for the most part, and the possible complications are exactly what your doctor will help you to understand and avoid. The BEST source of information for you IS from your own doctor. Your situation is as individual as you are, and your care must be tailored to your uniqueness. I wish you all the best. Bill Mayers, RT, RN
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I have had two wonderful healthy boys and had and still have IDDM. You must be hyper vigilant with your blood sugars especially now in early pregnancy. If you have a good diabetes center around hook up with it. some big University Hospitals have good programs associated with them. You may find a perinatologist who specializes in diabetes outside of this setting as well. If this isn’t an option for you, try to find an OB who is very comfortable with IDDM and pregnancy. You will need to be checking bgs way more and making frequent insulin adjustments. Great time to get an insulin pump, if youve been considering one!!! Good luck!!! Write if you need to talk with someone who has been through it. A high risk pregnancy can be very rewarding. You get WAY more attention and more information…ultra sounds, amnio’s etc. Takes some of the guess work out of things…BUT it is more anxiety provoking…and talking helps. Mari – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I just found out that I am 10 weeks pregnant. I am also a type I diabetic. Has anyone had any experiences with pregnancy and diabetes. Does anyone have any details of past risks and results. I am concerned with the risks to the baby by not knowing I was pregnant for 10 weeks. Any past experiences would be helpful.
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Hi all, I’m sure that many of you have had children while being a diabetic. I was wondering how you controlled your sugar during the pregnancy. Also what are the risks of being a diabetic and being pregnant? Thanks, Tina
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Tina many people have found their blood sugars easier to control during pregnancy. Personally I have found controlling mine while breastfeeding the biggest challenge. There is much written on the American diabetes assoc. website (diabetes.com) about pregnancy and diabetes. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi all, I’m sure that many of you have had children while being a diabetic. I was wondering how you controlled your sugar during the pregnancy. Also what are the risks of being a diabetic and being pregnant? Thanks, Tina
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My wife is pregnant, just reaching 8 weeks, and is also a Type I. She has been keeping careful track of her bg, with frequent testing. The OB-GYN said the numbers she has been getting were okay, but then tonight she got a bg of 300. All the other numbers recently have been between 80 and 120, but of course just after you see the doctor you get one of these. She immediately took extra to correct the problem. I’m wondering if anyone has had an experience like this. I know we need to be concerned about her level, but now we’re just beating ourselves up. I’m type I, and my daughter is turning 9 months this week. *Most* of my bg numbers were in the target range (60-130) while I was pregnant, but most days I hit 160 or so once, and 200 about once a week, and 300 maybe once a month. That’s after I knew I was pregnant. I didn’t know until I was 6 weeks (4 weeks post fertilization) pregnant. I ran a lot of 200s and 300s then — I thought I was getting the flu. My daughter was absolutely average size at birth (21 inches, 7 lb, 13 oz), extremely healthy, born by vaginal delivery at 39.5 weeks gestation. She has since leaped into the 75th percentile for size and is a pretty smart kid, crawling and exploring all over the place. Yes, the doctors made me absolutely paranoid about watching my bg while I was pregnant. It was a ton of work. I eventually went on disability leave from work at the start of the 6th month. And I had an amnio, lots of ultrasounds, and a fetal echocardiogram. They all showed normal, and she is normal. (The nurses even commented that she didn’t look like the baby of a diabetic mother.) I wouldn’t worry too much. I don’t think a very occasional high that last for an hour or so is a big deal. I only wish I’d had Humalog (which wasn’t out then) to bring the highs down faster… and I highly recommend using an insulin pump if your wife doesn’t already. It makes all the tiny changes in dosage a *lot* easier to handle. You’re welcome to write privately if you have more questions. Janet Wiener
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She/We didn’t eat anything sweet, but we think the problem was caused by the fountain diet coke she had. We are no longer going to be drinking diet soda from fountains.
A few years back a survey of diet sodas from fast food places was done. A very large percentage of them contained significant sugar. The most common error was to grab a pre-poured soda from the wrong area. Sometimes the wrong syrup bottle was hooked up to the diet fountain. Sometimes they never registered that a diet soda was ordered. Some here have reported using urine sugar testing tape to verify fountain diet sodas, although it is getting hard to find. — Charly Coughran
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Hi, Dave and Wife of Dave (!), I agree about fountain cokes: too risky EVER unless you can test them before drinking. Your attitudes sound good: be vigilant, but stop stressing over imperfections. If you aren’t already including your diabetes team in your pregnancy check-ups, start now. The OB-GYN needs to work along with your endocrinologist all the way through, as you will surely need to begin adjusting insulin and food intake very soon. The endo can also help the OB-GYN set good goals for blood sugars; decide how often you ought to be testing (and when); and generally add his or her expertise to the mix. By the way: I’m type I and my twins will be 6 in December. I worked with a perinatologist and my endo from the beginning: when we decided to try to get pregnant. (Of course, that’s partly because I was over 35 for this first pregnancy–and diabetic–and then at 6 weeks of pregnancy, found I was carrying twins. Talk about a triple witching hour.) Do some reading in your library about pregnancy and Type I. Be prepared for the medical literature and its rather scary focus on bad things that might happen if . . .; but pay most attention to why you want to aim for good control. Feel free to email me if you want to talk more. And a last word of caution about docs: in case one or both of yours is a prima dona of either sex, try to help them avoid fighting each other for control! They need to work as a team if at all possible, not as competitors (which latter happened at least once during my pregnancy, alas). Good luck….! –Cheryl – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi, My wife is pregnant, just reaching 8 weeks, and is also a Type I. She has been keeping careful track of her bg, with frequent testing. The OB-GYN said the numbers she has been getting were okay, but then tonight she got a bg of 300. All the other numbers recently have been between 80 and 120, but of course just after you see the doctor you get one of these. She immediately took extra to correct the problem. I’m wondering if anyone has had an experience like this. I know we need to be concerned about her level, but now we’re just beating ourselves up. She/We didn’t eat anything sweet, but we think the problem was caused by the fountain diet coke she had. We are no longer going to be drinking diet soda from fountains. Any words of encouragement, experience in this matter or any other information would help. Thanks, Dave
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Hi, My wife is pregnant, just reaching 8 weeks, and is also a Type I. She has been keeping careful track of her bg, with frequent testing. The OB-GYN said the numbers she has been getting were okay, but then tonight she got a bg of 300. All the other numbers recently have been between 80 and 120, but of course just after you see the doctor you get one of these. She immediately took extra to correct the problem. I’m wondering if anyone has had an experience like this. I know we need to be concerned about her level, but now we’re just beating ourselves up. She/We didn’t eat anything sweet, but we think the problem was caused by the fountain diet coke she had. We are no longer going to be drinking diet soda from fountains. Any words of encouragement, experience in this matter or any other information would help. Thanks, Dave
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Hi do you have to be part of a study in order to be prescribed Metformin or Rezulin? Alot of people are talking about getting involved with a study in order to get it, so I was just wondering?
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In article <19970918184001.OAA01…@ladder02.news.aol.com>, mouse…@aol.com (Mouse516) writes: >Hi do you have to be part of a study in order to be prescribed Metformin >or Rezulin? Alot of people are talking about getting involved with a study >in order to get it, so I was just wondering?
Right now, Rezulin (troglitazone) and Glucophage (metformin) are not indicated for PCOS. This means that a doctor is taking a professional risk by prescribing it to you, and could face liability if something were to go wrong. As a result, more conservative physicians will probably not prescribe it. You would need to find a very open-minded, more progressive doctor, most likely. Metformin caries with is about a 1 in 20,000 chance of developing lactic acidosis. This is often fatal, so it is nothing to fool around with. This kind of statistic really does affect a doctor’s willingness to go out on a limb. The current research studies on these drugs are for the purpose of determining *if* these drugs really do help women with PCOS. I think that these studies are going to be pivotal in the direction of future treatment of our condition. Christine G. (UpdeG…@aol.com) from Ohio
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Well, after seeing an RE in October and being diagnosed with PCO with nary a blood test, I decided to go see a regular endocrinologist. Since I went off of Clomid in September, I have had som major setbacks in my health. I ended up in the ER with a blinding headache 100 times worse than any previous migraine. My breasts started discharging a lovely green liquid. I am having a bleeding episode (I hesitate to call it a period) every two to three weeks. They have had me on Parlodel even though my prolactin levels were in the normal range. I have been on three different courses of antibiotics to treat infections. Something just isn’t right. So, I decided that I would go to a regular endocrinologist since there are known hereditary hormone imbalances in my family. The appointment is tomorrow at 2:00 PST. Wish me luck. Any suggestions on what I should ask for besides a blood test and fasting insulin test? Louise — "Take my hand, and lead me to salvation…" "Take my love, for love is ever-lasting…" "And remember the truth that once was spoken;" "To love another person is to see the face of God." -Les Miserables
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: Louise, : I do wish you the best of luck! Have them test LH, FSH, total : testosterone, free testosterone, DHEA-S, and TSH while they are at it! : (they probably will anyway is you tell tham about the PCOS diagnosis : without the bloodwork). I think that $10 I spent to see the endocrinologist was the best I have spent ever. It was a highly enlightening visit. He says that yes, something is very wrong. He did a complete exam. He then ordered a fasting blood workup done. He wants to test for insulin resistance, diabetes, and a myriad of chemical numbers. I also have to do a 24-hour urine test. For those of you unfamiliar with this particular test, you have to collect *all* of your urine for 24-hours. They give you a lovely brown container for this that you must keep in your refrigerator. :-) Just great! Anyway, he says that this will show what my cortisol levels are. If my adrenal galnd is malfunctioning instead of the other stuff, it will mimic PCO. So, he wants to rule it out just in case. He talked to me like a human being. So, I finish these tests, we figure out a course of treatment and off we go. He said if I am insulin resistant, he will put me on glucofage–I think it works like metformin. He said it was not a traditional use for the drug but has been found to be very effective in relieving not only the insulin resistance but also the hair growth and acne aspects of PCO. I can’t wait. :-) So, if you have not seen a regular endocrinologist, I suggest you see one. He said that there are medications that are much better for treating PCO than BCPs and spiralactdone (sp?). He also indicated that testing TSH is not an entirely accurate mesaure of your thyroid function and given the problems in my family, it needs more thorough investigation. I’ll keep you posted on the test results. At least now, I feel like I am getting somewhere. Louise
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In article <5arm4p$jv…@nadine.teleport.com>, lsun…@teleport.com (Lady Sundae) writes: >He said if I am insulin resistant, he will >put me on glucofage–I think it works like metformin.
Glucophage is the "brand name". The generic name is metformin hydrochloride. Christine G. (UpdeG…@aol.com) from Ohio
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