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I chart my temps at Fertility Friend and I was wondering if someone could check it out and maybe comment on it. I had some spotting a couple weeks ago and didn’t have any AF symptoms so I just recorded it as spotting. It was only slightly heavy one day. I’m wondering if maybe I should test or should I wait and see if the real AF shows up. http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1ca2e LeAnn
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Hmmmmm I took a look. Before I comment….what IF issues do u have?? PCOS??? etc??? *~`~ Cyndie ~`~*
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"Not a trace…. of doubt in your mind?" *S*
LOL Glad I’m not the only one with that song firmly implanted in my head now! 
) ~~~~~ Rachel Outside of a dog, a book is man’s best friend. Inside of a dog, it’s too dark to read. – Groucho Marx ~~~~
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"Not a trace…. of doubt in your mind?" *S* Welcome to the family! Quasi — "Pa, just what can you do with a grown woman?" – Opie Taylor
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hey All, Hello to everyone from Whitehorse, YK, CA. I’m a newbie to this ng (but not ng’s and bbs’s in general) and just wanted to share my two cents with you all. A friend of mine, who had struggled with her weight her whole life, was 5′8" and over 300 lbs when 4 months ago, she decided to make a complete lifestyle change. She started VERY low carbing and walking. Walking turned to swimming which lead to the gym. She now does 20 mins each of cardio and strength training everyday. Since she started this she has lost 90 lbs. in 16 weeks and feels just great! She says she doesn’t crave carbs at all anymore and she can now shop in the non-plus size sections of dept. stores. YAY Shannon! 
I was diagnosed with PCOS two years ago after years and years of irregular monthlies etc etc.. The doc put me on metformin which helped in the beginning but made me feel sick, tired and grumpy all the time. After playing around with my dosage I finally gave up on it all together and starting packing on the pounds. I’m currently 5′6", 195 lbs and last night after stepping on the scale for the first time in 4 months I decided that this was bullsh!t, I could either keep going down the path I was, being unable to conceive, feeling miserable all the time and having a totally negative self image or I could pull up my socks and do something about it. I cut out a major portion of my carb intake, no more bread, crackers, cereal, potatoes, pasta, specialty coffees, two lumps in my tea and reg. coffee etc.. and in 24 hours I feel great and guess what? I’m starting my period. I can’t believe it. It’s been 4 months since my last one, (I think I only got it then because it was my wedding day..lol) and prior to that it had been a year. That is it! The pantry and fridge are getting expunged and it’s my turn to start a new life. Hope to share lots of recipes, ideas and ups n downs with you all in the future! Cheers! milady
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Hehe.. and I run a zoo here…2 dogs, 3 cats, a gecko and a wild 13 y/o From what I have seen, pretty much most everyone here seems pretty cool and level headed, give or take a few who seem to be from the shallow end of the gene pool – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – From one lady. zoolady to another milady.. Welcome to the group! Great choicee of lifestyle eating and group..a great bunch of people here! Ruth LC Since 10/28/01 229/152/135 5′2 33 Hey All, Hello to everyone from Whitehorse, YK, CA. I’m a newbie to this ng (but not ng’s and bbs’s in general) and just wanted to share my two cents with you all. A friend of mine, who had struggled with her weight her whole life, was 5′8" and over 300 lbs when 4 months ago, she decided to make a complete lifestyle change. She started VERY low carbing and walking. Walking turned to swimming which lead to the gym. She now does 20 mins each of cardio and strength training everyday. Since she started this she has lost 90 lbs. in 16 weeks and feels just great! She says she doesn’t crave carbs at all anymore and she can now shop in the non-plus size sections of dept. stores. YAY Shannon! I was diagnosed with PCOS two years ago after years and years of irregular monthlies etc etc.. The doc put me on metformin which helped in the beginning but made me feel sick, tired and grumpy all the time. After playing around with my dosage I finally gave up on it all together and starting packing on the pounds. I’m currently 5′6", 195 lbs and last night after stepping on the scale for the first time in 4 months I decided that this was bullsh!t, I could either keep going down the path I was, being unable to conceive, feeling miserable all the time and having a totally negative self image or I could pull up my socks and do something about it. I cut out a major portion of my carb intake, no more bread, crackers, cereal, potatoes, pasta, specialty coffees, two lumps in my tea and reg. coffee etc.. and in 24 hours I feel great and guess what? I’m starting my period. I can’t believe it. It’s been 4 months since my last one, (I think I only got it then because it was my wedding day..lol) and prior to that it had been a year. That is it! The pantry and fridge are getting expunged and it’s my turn to start a new life. Hope to share lots of recipes, ideas and ups n downs with you all in the future! Cheers! milady
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She started walking a brisk but level 2 km’s everyday. I really should be doing the same! Thanks for the warm welcome.. this is such a cozy place.. hehe – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -A friend of mine, who had struggled with her weight her whole life, was 5′8" and over 300 lbs when 4 months ago, she decided to make a complete lifestyle change. She started VERY low carbing and walking. Walking turned to swimming which lead to the gym. She now does 20 mins each of cardio and strength training everyday. Since she started this she has lost 90 lbs. in 16 weeks and feels just great! She says she doesn’t crave carbs at all anymore and she can now shop in the non-plus size sections of dept. stores. YAY Shannon! Wow! Your friend is doing amazingly well. This is motivation for me to do more exercise for sure. How much walking did she used to do before she started swimming? 90 pounds in 16 weeks is awe inspiring. By the way, welcome to the newsgroup. Boukie 324/290/150 Started Atkins July 1, 2002 Measurements: started at 42-44-61 currently at 37-38-55
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A friend of mine, who had struggled with her weight her whole life, was 5′8" and over 300 lbs when 4 months ago, she decided to make a complete lifestyle change. She started VERY low carbing and walking. Walking turned to swimming which lead to the gym. She now does 20 mins each of cardio and strength training everyday. Since she started this she has lost 90 lbs. in 16 weeks and feels just great! She says she doesn’t crave carbs at all anymore and she can now shop in the non-plus size sections of dept. stores. YAY Shannon!
Wow! Your friend is doing amazingly well. This is motivation for me to do more exercise for sure. How much walking did she used to do before she started swimming? 90 pounds in 16 weeks is awe inspiring. By the way, welcome to the newsgroup. Boukie 324/290/150 Started Atkins July 1, 2002 Measurements: started at 42-44-61 currently at 37-38-55
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From one lady. zoolady to another milady.. Welcome to the group! Great choicee of lifestyle eating and group..a great bunch of people here! Ruth LC Since 10/28/01 229/152/135 5′2 33
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hey All, Hello to everyone from Whitehorse, YK, CA. I’m a newbie to this ng (but not ng’s and bbs’s in general) and just wanted to share my two cents with you all. A friend of mine, who had struggled with her weight her whole life, was 5′8" and over 300 lbs when 4 months ago, she decided to make a complete lifestyle change. She started VERY low carbing and walking. Walking turned to swimming which lead to the gym. She now does 20 mins each of cardio and strength training everyday. Since she started this she has lost 90 lbs. in 16 weeks and feels just great! She says she doesn’t crave carbs at all anymore and she can now shop in the non-plus size sections of dept. stores. YAY Shannon! I was diagnosed with PCOS two years ago after years and years of irregular monthlies etc etc.. The doc put me on metformin which helped in the beginning but made me feel sick, tired and grumpy all the time. After playing around with my dosage I finally gave up on it all together and starting packing on the pounds. I’m currently 5′6", 195 lbs and last night after stepping on the scale for the first time in 4 months I decided that this was bullsh!t, I could either keep going down the path I was, being unable to conceive, feeling miserable all the time and having a totally negative self image or I could pull up my socks and do something about it. I cut out a major portion of my carb intake, no more bread, crackers, cereal, potatoes, pasta, specialty coffees, two lumps in my tea and reg. coffee etc.. and in 24 hours I feel great and guess what? I’m starting my period. I can’t believe it. It’s been 4 months since my last one, (I think I only got it then because it was my wedding day..lol) and prior to that it had been a year. That is it! The pantry and fridge are getting expunged and it’s my turn to start a new life. Hope to share lots of recipes, ideas and ups n downs with you all in the future! Cheers! milady
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I was diagnosed with PCOS two years ago after years and years of irregular monthlies etc etc.. The doc put me on metformin which helped in the beginning but made me feel sick, tired and grumpy all the time.
Metformin is definitely not for everyone. For those who can tolerate it, though, it’s almost a miracle drug. I have PCOS and started taking it 3 years ago. I was completely infertile at the time. But after I’d been taking metformin for just a few months, I conceived; and now I have a beautiful, healthy daughter. The metformin also normalized my cholesterol. I started low-carbing not quite 4 weeks ago, and I decided to stop taking metformin. I wasn’t sure how it would affect me to stop, but I don’t have health insurance right now to have lab work done. However, I have just ovulated, which I take as an excellent sign. In my pre-metformin days I never did. Metformin makes ovulation more likely because it so effectively reduces abnormally high insulin levels. *But low-carbing does the same thing* ….without drugs. If you stick with the plan, I think you have an excellent chance of conceiving. Keep us posted! Reb 222/215.5/120
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hehe.. thanks a bunch.. looks like you’re doing very well at low-carbing! Now it’s my turn – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Hi, I’m a newbie too. If enthusiasm is anything to go by. I think you’ll do just fine Oh, congratulations on your "revisit" 
kev 226/208/170 Hey All, Hello to everyone from Whitehorse, YK, CA. I’m a newbie to this ng (but not ng’s and bbs’s in general) and just wanted to share my two cents with you all. A friend of mine, who had struggled with her weight her whole life, was 5′8" and over 300 lbs when 4 months ago, she decided to make a complete lifestyle change. She started VERY low carbing and walking. Walking turned to swimming which lead to the gym. She now does 20 mins each of cardio and strength training everyday. Since she started this she has lost 90 lbs. in 16 weeks and feels just great! She says she doesn’t crave carbs at all anymore and she can now shop in the non-plus size sections of dept. stores. YAY Shannon! I was diagnosed with PCOS two years ago after years and years of irregular monthlies etc etc.. The doc put me on metformin which helped in the beginning but made me feel sick, tired and grumpy all the time. After playing around with my dosage I finally gave up on it all together and starting packing on the pounds. I’m currently 5′6", 195 lbs and last night after stepping on the scale for the first time in 4 months I decided that this was bullsh!t, I could either keep going down the path I was, being unable to conceive, feeling miserable all the time and having a totally negative self image or I could pull up my socks and do something about it. I cut out a major portion of my carb intake, no more bread, crackers, cereal, potatoes, pasta, specialty coffees, two lumps in my tea and reg. coffee etc.. and in 24 hours I feel great and guess what? I’m starting my period. I can’t believe it. It’s been 4 months since my last one, (I think I only got it then because it was my wedding day..lol) and prior to that it had been a year. That is it! The pantry and fridge are getting expunged and it’s my turn to start a new life. Hope to share lots of recipes, ideas and ups n downs with you all in the future! Cheers! milady
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Hi, I’m a newbie too. If enthusiasm is anything to go by. I think you’ll do just fine Oh, congratulations on your "revisit" kev 226/208/170
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hey All, Hello to everyone from Whitehorse, YK, CA. I’m a newbie to this ng (but not ng’s and bbs’s in general) and just wanted to share my two cents with you all. A friend of mine, who had struggled with her weight her whole life, was 5′8" and over 300 lbs when 4 months ago, she decided to make a complete lifestyle change. She started VERY low carbing and walking. Walking turned to swimming which lead to the gym. She now does 20 mins each of cardio and strength training everyday. Since she started this she has lost 90 lbs. in 16 weeks and feels just great! She says she doesn’t crave carbs at all anymore and she can now shop in the non-plus size sections of dept. stores. YAY Shannon! I was diagnosed with PCOS two years ago after years and years of irregular monthlies etc etc.. The doc put me on metformin which helped in the beginning but made me feel sick, tired and grumpy all the time. After playing around with my dosage I finally gave up on it all together and starting packing on the pounds. I’m currently 5′6", 195 lbs and last night after stepping on the scale for the first time in 4 months I decided that this was bullsh!t, I could either keep going down the path I was, being unable to conceive, feeling miserable all the time and having a totally negative self image or I could pull up my socks and do something about it. I cut out a major portion of my carb intake, no more bread, crackers, cereal, potatoes, pasta, specialty coffees, two lumps in my tea and reg. coffee etc.. and in 24 hours I feel great and guess what? I’m starting my period. I can’t believe it. It’s been 4 months since my last one, (I think I only got it then because it was my wedding day..lol) and prior to that it had been a year. That is it! The pantry and fridge are getting expunged and it’s my turn to start a new life. Hope to share lots of recipes, ideas and ups n downs with you all in the future! Cheers! milady
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Hey All, Hello to everyone from Whitehorse, YK, CA. I’m a newbie to this ng (but not ng’s and bbs’s in general) and just wanted to share my two cents with you all. A friend of mine, who had struggled with her weight her whole life, was 5′8" and over 300 lbs when 4 months ago, she decided to make a complete lifestyle change. She started VERY low carbing and walking. Walking turned to swimming which lead to the gym. She now does 20 mins each of cardio and strength training everyday. Since she started this she has lost 90 lbs. in 16 weeks and feels just great! She says she doesn’t crave carbs at all anymore and she can now shop in the non-plus size sections of dept. stores. YAY Shannon! I was diagnosed with PCOS two years ago after years and years of irregular monthlies etc etc.. The doc put me on metformin which helped in the beginning but made me feel sick, tired and grumpy all the time. After playing around with my dosage I finally gave up on it all together and starting packing on the pounds. I’m currently 5′6", 195 lbs and last night after stepping on the scale for the first time in 4 months I decided that this was bullsh!t, I could either keep going down the path I was, being unable to conceive, feeling miserable all the time and having a totally negative self image or I could pull up my socks and do something about it. I cut out a major portion of my carb intake, no more bread, crackers, cereal, potatoes, pasta, specialty coffees, two lumps in my tea and reg. coffee etc.. and in 24 hours I feel great and guess what? I’m starting my period. I can’t believe it. It’s been 4 months since my last one, (I think I only got it then because it was my wedding day..lol) and prior to that it had been a year. That is it! The pantry and fridge are getting expunged and it’s my turn to start a new life. Hope to share lots of recipes, ideas and ups n downs with you all in the future! Cheers! milady
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Hi everyone.. I am 21, live with my parents, am still under my father’s health plan and am the one who hasnt told my mom yet about my PCOS… anyway, my dad’s plan switched to Healthlink and they will not cover my birth control pills even with my letter of necessity (they say because it is a brand name drug that they wont cover it– I am taking Mircette).. and then we got a letter in the mail today and they are not going to cover my last office visit which was only a 6 month check up and that is when he did the glucose/insulin ratio test.. the bill was $75 and the letter said that they would cover nothing and that they do not cover such conditions/services and to check our handbook for details… has anyone had similar problems as this?? My last insurance company covered all of this and I am getting so upset.. now i will have to tell my mom everything, especially if she is gonna call the insurance company and complain to them, and she doesnt even understand what is wrong with me… any suggestions?? similar situations with a remedy??? thanks for any help…. Becky
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Hopefully it is just a matter of your doctor putting in a wrong diagnosis code or something equivalent. If your insulin came back high or your bloodsugar high. You may be able to claim it as insulin resistance. Not PCOS. Which can sometimes look like your treating fertility. Maybe if your doctor puts in a letter to your insurance that the birth control isn’t used for fertility issues, that is used to treat a medical condition instead. If I am not mistaken you make have to file some sort of grievance letter to the insurance. ( ladies please help me out with this one). Best of luck to you. Donna "Beckers123" <beckers…@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20010328233223.19763.00001318@ng-cb1.aol.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hi everyone.. I am 21, live with my parents, am still under my father’s health > plan and am the one who hasnt told my mom yet about my PCOS… anyway, my dad’s > plan switched to Healthlink and they will not cover my birth control pills even > with my letter of necessity (they say because it is a brand name drug that they > wont cover it– I am taking Mircette).. and then we got a letter in the mail > today and they are not going to cover my last office visit which was only a 6 > month check up and that is when he did the glucose/insulin ratio test.. the > bill was $75 and the letter said that they would cover nothing and that they do > not cover such conditions/services and to check our handbook for details… > has anyone had similar problems as this?? My last insurance company covered > all of this and I am getting so upset.. now i will have to tell my mom > everything, especially if she is gonna call the insurance company and complain > to them, and she doesnt even understand what is wrong with me… any > suggestions?? similar situations with a remedy??? thanks for any help…. > Becky
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Thank you for your response.. we have sent a letter to the insurance company about the birth control and my last insurance provider covered them, but this one will not, even after 2 letters being sent to them.. and i was diagnosed with insulin resistance.. but i am not sure what he used as a code or whatever.. i guess i will have to give the doc’s office a call.. the doc in online right now, but i would hate to bother him… thanks and any other input would be greatly appreciated.. ) Becky
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The easiest thing for you to do is to switch to a generic birth control pill. If your insurance company doesn’t cover brand name BCPS they won’t make an exception for you, unless perhaps you’ve tried all of their covered generic brands and had side effects. There are numerous very good generic birth control pills on the market do not hesitate to change. As for getting your insurance company to cover your visit, you’ll need to read the information they sent you to see if they cover preventative service and/or problem visits. That will be the major issue. Your doctor’s office can contact the insurance company. They can also resubmit your bill if they made a mistake in coding. Contacting your doc online won’t help you. You need to talk to his insurance billing person! Good luck!! Insurance companies can be such a pain. Susan – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Thank you for your response.. we have sent a letter to the insurance company >about the birth control and my last insurance provider covered them, but this >one will not, even after 2 letters being sent to them.. and i was diagnosed >with insulin resistance.. but i am not sure what he used as a code or >whatever.. i guess i will have to give the doc’s office a call.. the doc in >online right now, but i would hate to bother him… thanks and any other >input >would be greatly appreciated.. ) Becky
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I’m on medication that makes me tired. I suffer from depression so my natural mood includes apathy and lethargy. My dietary habits aren’t bad, I have seen more than one nutritionist who has agreed. I drink water constantly. I have trouble sometimes making myself exercise but can usually manage at least two or three times a week for 20 minutes even when I am feeling at my worst. SO WHY THE HELL AM I GAINING WEIGHT?!?!?! My scale only goes up to 270, I am at 265 now. What the hell do I do? I can’t stack, I am already too nervous. Atkins is out of the questions because of one of the medications I am on. My calorie intake hovers between 2200 – 2500, well within the range for me to lose weight. My protein/fat intake is limited to one meal a day, my carbohydrate intake is rarely over 100. This g*)&*^%mn weight thing isn’t helping my mood! I hate the way I look and rarely leave the house. If I’m going to continue gaining weight anyway, I might as well fill up the tub with chocolate cheesecake and dive in. What the hell do I do? What kind of doctor should I seek out (btw, I have been tested for every endocrine disorder known to man, I am fine just fat)? Is there an alt.support.fat.depressed.ready-to-die? Emma Time is the best teacher; unfortunately it kills all its students. When the pin is pulled, Mr. Grenade is not our friend.
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My experience has been that people who work out regularly don’t need anti-depressants. The endorphins released during a good burn are enough. And they are 100% natural!
The causes of depression are much more complicated than that. You can use yourself of someone you know as a basis for your knowledge but do not generalize this knowledge to other people. That is just foolish thinking.
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Emma: Please don’t ever stop asking for help if you need it. Dr’s, friends, clergy, co-workers, ASD. We are here because we care. –Phil Marshall–
Thank you Phil. It’s nice to hear that I’m not being a bother. Emma Time is the best teacher; unfortunately it kills all its students. When the pin is pulled, Mr. Grenade is not our friend.
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’m on medication that makes me tired. I suffer from depression so my natural mood includes apathy and lethargy. My dietary habits aren’t bad, I have seen more than one nutritionist who has agreed. I drink water constantly. I have trouble sometimes making myself exercise but can usually manage at least two or three times a week for 20 minutes even when I am feeling at my worst. SO WHY THE HELL AM I GAINING WEIGHT?!?!?! My scale only goes up to 270, I am at 265 now. What the hell do I do? I can’t stack, I am already too nervous. Atkins is out of the questions because of one of the medications I am on. My calorie intake hovers between 2200 – 2500, well within the range for me to lose weight. My protein/fat intake is limited to one meal a day, my carbohydrate intake is rarely over 100. This g*)&*^%mn weight thing isn’t helping my mood! I hate the way I look and rarely leave the house. If I’m going to continue gaining weight anyway, I might as well fill up the tub with chocolate cheesecake and dive in. What the hell do I do? What kind of doctor should I seek out (btw, I have been tested for every endocrine disorder known to man, I am fine just fat)? Is there an alt.support.fat.depressed.ready-to-die? Emma
Emma, are you seeing a doctor, or a psychiatrist? I’m sorry if this is a pesonal question, but when depression is an issue, I think you need to talk to someone (therapy) along with taking meds. The "I’m depressed because I’m fat…am fat becasue I’m depressed…." is a real issue that needs to be addressed by either finding alternative meds for depression and finding a good therapist. The doctor you go for when you have the stomach flu may not be the best candidate to go to for depression or other problems of the like. I don’t think life has to be a choice between either being fat or being happy. And just to qualify here, I’ve been treated on and off for depression and anxiety most my life. Just wanted to let you know I know how it feels. — Lisa B. 243/146.5/145 – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Time is the best teacher; unfortunately it kills all its students. When the pin is pulled, Mr. Grenade is not our friend.
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What the hell do I do? What kind of doctor should I seek out (btw, I have been tested for every endocrine disorder known to man, I am fine just fat)? Is there an alt.support.fat.depressed.ready-to-die?
Sometimes it helps to just vent your frustrations. Most of us feel that life is not fair in one form or another, but then we learn to deal with it and go on. Take baby steps, if you have to, or start journaling. Sometimes it helps to write things down to get them out. I have lived with depression my whole life so I know how you feel. I was diagnosed with chronic depression 16 years ago due to a chemical imbalance. I had no reason at the time to be depressed but lots of good therapy has taught me to deal with it.
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Have a good vent then get down to work as you can’t change the past and need to practice damage control if you want a slimmer future. I weighed 217 was hungry, food aware all the time and jealous and angry of slimmer people who just ate spontaneously. Those days are gone for now and I hope forever. 217/148/155 – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – What the hell do I do? What kind of doctor should I seek out (btw, I have been tested for every endocrine disorder known to man, I am fine just fat)? Is there an alt.support.fat.depressed.ready-to-die? Sometimes it helps to just vent your frustrations. Most of us feel that life is not fair in one form or another, but then we learn to deal with it and go on. Take baby steps, if you have to, or start journaling. Sometimes it helps to write things down to get them out. I have lived with depression my whole life so I know how you feel. I was diagnosed with chronic depression 16 years ago due to a chemical imbalance. I had no reason at the time to be depressed but lots of good therapy has taught me to deal with it.
– Diva "HoldingHands"-not your average allergy group http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HoldingHands
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My calorie intake hovers between 2200 – 2500, well within the range for me to lose weight
Who told you this? Your doctor? I suggest you get a second opinion! Especially if you’re on anti-depressants and you’re still depressed! My experience has been that people who work out regularly don’t need anti-depressants. The endorphins released during a good burn are enough. And they are 100% natural! Everybody is different. We all have different needs nutritionally. If you’re gaining weight, I think it’s probably because you’re not getting the right nutrition and you’re eating more calories than are being burned off. My suggestion is to simply maximize the burn any way you can. This means fewer calories, don’t eat your biggest meals the later the day gets, work out on an empty stomach (like in the mornings), and keep drinking the water.
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I envy you – I wish we could get Diane 35 over in America. Victoria "Daisy" <daisythe…@btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:8vhmma$prn$1@plutonium.btinternet.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> i have been taking dianette whilst on met and i have had no problems at > all…:) > "Victoria" <nich…@mail.cs.odu.edu> wrote in message > news:MC%R5.136049$j6.14395316@news1.rdc1.va.home.com… > > I am on Metformin and Mircette (Desogen in a lower dose). Seems to work > > really well. I’ve not had problems except for throwing up a few times in > the > > beginning (I have gastroparesis, so you really count on any changes doing > GI > > upsets). The hair problem that I couldn’t get rid of on metformin alone, > > really corrected itself on the Mircette. I only have to do a light shave > > every 4 days or so on the chin on the Mircette, the sideburns are rare, > the > > breast and lower abdomen hair is really improved. > > Victoria > > "Judy Trummer" <k…@earth.execpc.com> wrote in message > > news:3a1760f7$0$99981$272ea4a1@news.execpc.com… > > > Hi y’all. I just got diagnosed type 2 diabetic and my doctor wants me > to > > > go on Met. I’ve got major PCO symptoms, though I’m not interested in > > > conceiving (ever) so I haven’t even really brought it up with this > doctor. > > > The diabetes side of it is what I want/need treated. I’m also on > > > depo-provera for birth control. With my high blood pressure and > diabetes > > > it seemed safer than the pill. I know depo can cause weight gain/extra > > > hair, but hell, I have that already, what’s the difference? I’ve been > on > > > depo a year and actually lost a slight amount of weight anyway. > > > So my question is, what’s the common thought on being on Met and birth > > > control (pills/shot) at the same time? Any problems? I know I shoudl > > > talk to my doctor, but it’s hard to get a hold of her and she *might* > have > > > forgotten the depo while considering everything else. I believe that BC > > > pills are more of a problem when it comes to med interactions, and depo > > > being progestin-only isn’t supposed to affect other stuff quite so > much.. > > > but I’m not really sure where it stands. Anybody know anything?
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i have been taking dianette whilst on met and i have had no problems at all…:) "Victoria" <nich…@mail.cs.odu.edu> wrote in message
news:MC%R5.136049$j6.14395316@news1.rdc1.va.home.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I am on Metformin and Mircette (Desogen in a lower dose). Seems to work > really well. I’ve not had problems except for throwing up a few times in the > beginning (I have gastroparesis, so you really count on any changes doing GI > upsets). The hair problem that I couldn’t get rid of on metformin alone, > really corrected itself on the Mircette. I only have to do a light shave > every 4 days or so on the chin on the Mircette, the sideburns are rare, the > breast and lower abdomen hair is really improved. > Victoria > "Judy Trummer" <k…@earth.execpc.com> wrote in message > news:3a1760f7$0$99981$272ea4a1@news.execpc.com… > > Hi y’all. I just got diagnosed type 2 diabetic and my doctor wants me to > > go on Met. I’ve got major PCO symptoms, though I’m not interested in > > conceiving (ever) so I haven’t even really brought it up with this doctor. > > The diabetes side of it is what I want/need treated. I’m also on > > depo-provera for birth control. With my high blood pressure and diabetes > > it seemed safer than the pill. I know depo can cause weight gain/extra > > hair, but hell, I have that already, what’s the difference? I’ve been on > > depo a year and actually lost a slight amount of weight anyway. > > So my question is, what’s the common thought on being on Met and birth > > control (pills/shot) at the same time? Any problems? I know I shoudl > > talk to my doctor, but it’s hard to get a hold of her and she *might* have > > forgotten the depo while considering everything else. I believe that BC > > pills are more of a problem when it comes to med interactions, and depo > > being progestin-only isn’t supposed to affect other stuff quite so much.. > > but I’m not really sure where it stands. Anybody know anything?
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I am on Metformin and Mircette (Desogen in a lower dose). Seems to work really well. I’ve not had problems except for throwing up a few times in the beginning (I have gastroparesis, so you really count on any changes doing GI upsets). The hair problem that I couldn’t get rid of on metformin alone, really corrected itself on the Mircette. I only have to do a light shave every 4 days or so on the chin on the Mircette, the sideburns are rare, the breast and lower abdomen hair is really improved. Victoria "Judy Trummer" <k…@earth.execpc.com> wrote in message
news:3a1760f7$0$99981$272ea4a1@news.execpc.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hi y’all. I just got diagnosed type 2 diabetic and my doctor wants me to > go on Met. I’ve got major PCO symptoms, though I’m not interested in > conceiving (ever) so I haven’t even really brought it up with this doctor. > The diabetes side of it is what I want/need treated. I’m also on > depo-provera for birth control. With my high blood pressure and diabetes > it seemed safer than the pill. I know depo can cause weight gain/extra > hair, but hell, I have that already, what’s the difference? I’ve been on > depo a year and actually lost a slight amount of weight anyway. > So my question is, what’s the common thought on being on Met and birth > control (pills/shot) at the same time? Any problems? I know I shoudl > talk to my doctor, but it’s hard to get a hold of her and she *might* have > forgotten the depo while considering everything else. I believe that BC > pills are more of a problem when it comes to med interactions, and depo > being progestin-only isn’t supposed to affect other stuff quite so much.. > but I’m not really sure where it stands. Anybody know anything?
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Hi y’all. I just got diagnosed type 2 diabetic and my doctor wants me to go on Met. I’ve got major PCO symptoms, though I’m not interested in conceiving (ever) so I haven’t even really brought it up with this doctor. The diabetes side of it is what I want/need treated. I’m also on depo-provera for birth control. With my high blood pressure and diabetes it seemed safer than the pill. I know depo can cause weight gain/extra hair, but hell, I have that already, what’s the difference? I’ve been on depo a year and actually lost a slight amount of weight anyway. So my question is, what’s the common thought on being on Met and birth control (pills/shot) at the same time? Any problems? I know I shoudl talk to my doctor, but it’s hard to get a hold of her and she *might* have forgotten the depo while considering everything else. I believe that BC pills are more of a problem when it comes to med interactions, and depo being progestin-only isn’t supposed to affect other stuff quite so much.. but I’m not really sure where it stands. Anybody know anything?
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>So my question is, what’s the common thought on being on Met and birth >control (pills/shot) at the same time? Any problems? I know I shoudl >talk to my doctor, but it’s hard to get a hold of her and she *might* have >forgotten the depo while considering everything else.
Met’s package insert mentions to be sure to be on birth control since many women resume ovulation on Met. I believe that BC >pills are more of a problem when it comes to med interactions, and depo >being progestin-only isn’t supposed to affect other stuff quite so much.. >but I’m not really sure where it stands. Anybody know anything? > I believe that BC >pills are more of a problem when it comes to med interactions, and depo >being progestin-only isn’t supposed to affect other stuff quite so much.. >but I’m not really sure where it stands. Anybody know anything?
I am not quite sure which would be best. I know that when I was on Ortho, my symptoms worsened. When I was a teen, I was on Loestrin for regulation. It didn’t bother me the way Ortho did. ^—^ Cathy { ‘ . ‘ } ` Those who play with cats must expect to be scratched. 4Cysters: http://pages.ivillage.com/cystercat Other pages: http://peaceonearth.faithweb.com http://littlec.faithweb.com http://www.i-love-cats.com/meow/cat
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> I believe that BC > >pills are more of a problem when it comes to med interactions, and depo > >being progestin-only isn’t supposed to affect other stuff quite so much.. > >but I’m not really sure where it stands. Anybody know anything?
I know there isn’t money in the world to get me to take Depo Provera. Nasty stuff, IMO. Why not try a progestin only pill? (a mini pill I think they are called) if you are worried about interactions with combo pills. I’m not sure why BCP would be a problem? Lots of people are using Met or other oral meds and BCP. —
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This is embarrassing, but when I first noticed my symptoms of PCO (but didn’t know what it was then) I was very promiscuous. I didn’t enjoy sex at all, but had this drive to meet new love interests. I don’t know if it was my lonliness causing this, but it felt to me like the way some young men act. I just thought it could very likly have been due to the extra testosterone. Anyone else notice this?
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>This is embarrassing, but when I first noticed my symptoms of PCO (but didn’t >know what it was then) I was very promiscuous. I didn’t enjoy sex at all, >but >had this drive to meet new love interests. I don’t know if it was my >lonliness >causing this, but it felt to me like the way some young men act. I just >thought it could very likly have been due to the extra testosterone. Anyone >else notice this?
My first PCOS symptoms came at age 11. Ashamed to admit it, but I didn’t know all the facts of life at that age (well, I knew "dark shadows" of what went on). Not like 11 year olds today. I didn’t really develop an interest in guys for some time. I thought they were cute and all, but I don’t think I differed from any other gal. It is hard to say why you had your experiences. Was it due to PCOS or other factors or a combination? Who can say? ^—^ Cathy { ‘ . ‘ } ` "Those who play with cats must expect to be scratched." Hope for Cysters: http://pages.ivillage.com/bh/cystercat My web page: http://peaceonearth.faithweb.com Visit Little C: http://littlec.faithweb.com
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I have wondered the same thing. When I was younger..only a few years ago, I was VERY promiscuous! I don’t think it was due to any hormonal problem but something drove me to it! It almost seemed like…. uncontrollable. I would promise myself NO MORE! But then would keep on being that way. Low self esteem maybe??. I didn’t feel that way.As far as I remember I felt great about myself..other than a little lonely. Like you said..I was exactly like a young man! But I guess I was looking for some sort of love too.who knows. You know..this may sound silly but I have often thought maybe god gave me pcos so I wouldn’t be confident enough to be that way..make sense?…with all the symptoms and all. ~kimberly~ – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -CAT EIS wrote: > This is embarrassing, but when I first noticed my symptoms of PCO (but didn’t > know what it was then) I was very promiscuous. I didn’t enjoy sex at all, but > had this drive to meet new love interests. I don’t know if it was my lonliness > causing this, but it felt to me like the way some young men act. I just > thought it could very likly have been due to the extra testosterone. Anyone > else notice this?
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>This is embarrassing, but when I first noticed my symptoms of PCO (but didn’t >know what it was then) I was very promiscuous.
I first began developing PCOS symptoms at age 8 and from age 12 onward I was after the boys nonstop. Never was really promiscuous because I was afraid of pregnancy. But I know what sex was from older kids talking about it and I knew it was something I wanted to do from adolescence. Before I got my PCOS diagnosis I was put on antidepressants and other psych meds by a clueless GP to help me "cope" and on of the various ones they tried on me was a drug called "Luvox". Let me tell you, I was promiscuous as hell on that drug. I had zero inhibitions and I slept with guys I would have never dated otherwise. I have recently found out that certain psych. meds can significantly alter inhibitions and cause you to act out in ways you would not have before. It is certainly possible that hormonal upheavals can cause a heightened sex drive too. Tracy
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>It is certainly possible that hormonal upheavals can cause a heightened sex >drive too.
Yes, I agree. Testosterone *is* the hormone which influences sexual drive, in women as well as men. I personally feel that it has increased my sex drive considerably a lot of the time. ::::::::sigh, if only I wasn’t single! 
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Yep, I too wondered about the same thing. Perhaps it was due to high testosterone levels, who knows… But the one thing I THANK GOD for is that I luckily did not catch any disease. Back in those days, i rarely used any type of birth control since I knew I couldn’t get pregnant (even though I hadn’t been diagnosed yet). Ahh, the follies of youth… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -"Nicholas J. Goodman" wrote: > I have wondered the same thing. > When I was younger..only a few years ago, I was VERY promiscuous! > I don’t think it was due to any hormonal problem but something drove me to it! > It almost seemed like…. uncontrollable. > I would promise myself NO MORE! But then would keep on being that way. > Low self esteem maybe??. I didn’t feel that way.As far as I remember I felt great > about myself..other than a little lonely. Like you said..I was exactly like a > young man! But I guess I was looking for some sort of love too.who knows. > You know..this may sound silly but I have often thought maybe god gave me pcos > so I wouldn’t be confident enough to be that way..make sense?…with all the > symptoms and all. > ~kimberly~ > CAT EIS wrote: > > This is embarrassing, but when I first noticed my symptoms of PCO (but didn’t > > know what it was then) I was very promiscuous. I didn’t enjoy sex at all, but > > had this drive to meet new love interests. I don’t know if it was my lonliness > > causing this, but it felt to me like the way some young men act. I just > > thought it could very likly have been due to the extra testosterone. Anyone > > else notice this?
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You know what? I have thought that so many times that maybe I was PCOS because I was so promiscuous. This was before I knew the reasons of PCO though. It is really kind of strange to think that that could be a tie in huh? Horrible to say about oneself but I was considered a slut…LOL. I can laugh now that I am older and I can thank the good LORD that I never got any diseases. It was almost like a yearning like a craving, I had to have it and I did not care with whom I had it with or where I had it. I just had to have it. I am so happy those days are over. For there are too many fears in these times, too many diseases and now I have a wonderful man that is supportive and I would not give that up for the world…Thanks CAT for bringing up that question. Now we can all wonder together. SMILE, IT MAKES THE WORLD WONDER WHAT YOU HAVE BEEN UP TO TracyP – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -CAT EIS wrote: > This is embarrassing, but when I first noticed my symptoms of PCO (but didn’t > know what it was then) I was very promiscuous. I didn’t enjoy sex at all, but > had this drive to meet new love interests. I don’t know if it was my lonliness > causing this, but it felt to me like the way some young men act. I just > thought it could very likly have been due to the extra testosterone. Anyone > else notice this?
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I have to say that I really don’t think that being promiscuous has anything to do with PCO, it was already there in the background just waiting to raise it’s ugly head! As it is hereditary I don’t think it is worth punishing ourselves for what we may or may not have done in the past. Take Care Ali CAT EIS <cat…@aol.comnojunk> wrote in message
news:20000109235705.29800.00001429@ng-fe1.aol.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> This is embarrassing, but when I first noticed my symptoms of PCO (but didn’t > know what it was then) I was very promiscuous. I didn’t enjoy sex at all, but > had this drive to meet new love interests. I don’t know if it was my lonliness > causing this, but it felt to me like the way some young men act. I just > thought it could very likly have been due to the extra testosterone. Anyone > else notice this?
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Don’t be embarrassed, you weren’t alone in this! Although I shared sex with only the important relationship I was in at the time, my strong healthy sex drive has made me feel freakish at times. I heard other woman saying, "He ALWAYS wants it, I hate this"….but I never felt that way. I agree with you, it has to be the extra testosterone. Maybe at times that particular symptom could be looked at as a gift?? : ) CAT EIS <cat…@aol.comnojunk> wrote in article <20000109235705.29800.00001…@ng-fe1.aol.com>… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> This is embarrassing, but when I first noticed my symptoms of PCO (but didn’t > know what it was then) I was very promiscuous. I didn’t enjoy sex at all, but > had this drive to meet new love interests. I don’t know if it was my lonliness > causing this, but it felt to me like the way some young men act. I just > thought it could very likly have been due to the extra testosterone. Anyone > else notice this?
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Karen – I just emailed you! Did you get it? I’m trying to figure out how to post on this thing! – Maggie
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>Karen – I just emailed you! Did you get it? I’m trying to figure out >how to post on this thing! – Maggie
Maggie, Yup, I got it, and thanks so much for the encouragement. If I AM PCO (which I’m pretty sure I am), then I must be in the early stages, like you were. Thanks for the hope! : ) Karen
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Hi everyone! On Friday, DH took me to get my 10day HCG. The level was only 9, so I’m going back tomorrow(Tues. 9/7) to see if it has increased. The nurse said that they like to see levels around 10 or above, so I may be having a "chemical pg" whatever that is. I feel nauseated a lot and hate to smell coffee(and I LOVE coffee) I also get up to go to the bathroom 2 or 3 times a night. Any feedback? I’m really nervous about the results. I keep thinking positive thoughts and am trying to "own my pg" per my secretary at works advice. Stay tuned Fern 1 son with clomid/IUI (5 yrs) many failed IUIs with fertinex cancelled IVF cycle last yr. just finished IVF cycle and hoping for the best
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Fern, My Dr. has told me that they like to see it above a 5 and doubling every 2-3days! I wish you the best and seems to me your symptoms are going according……. Ellen PCOS 1 ~i~ 3/99
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Everyone is different, but so many women really expect to feel nausea long before the real thing is ready to hit. Most women will not experience nausea before thier HCG levels reach at least 5,000. I hate to sound so cynical, but feeling nauseated 10 or 12 days after conception is wishful thinking, and nerves most of the time. Occasionally it turns out to be "the real thing" and you may very well be having a normal (not chemical) pregnancy, I can’t say, but the nausea is really nothing to base anything on yet. If we all had a dime for every time someone thought they were pregnant because they felt queasy or threw up……LOL. Anyway, my feelings go out to you, because I know what it’s like to want something so bad. I hope it has happened for you-just don’t place any stock in that nausea though.
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"chemical pg" whatever that is.
Ive had three of them in the last 4 years,,,, it means, " Detectable By Chemical Means Only".. in other words by hpt or blood, but doesnt implant properly, no sac, nothing seen via U/S…. ( I call them a very, very, very early m/c ) If this is happening, I am very sorry,,,, BUT,,, I get the nausea very early too, like 5 weeks, ( 3 actual weeks pg) ,,, ~ Debbie ~ 2 FAILED DIUI’s ( o /) ( o /) ( o /) ( o /) ( o /) ( o /) /_ /_ /_ /_ /_ /_ 1986 1989 1990 1994 1998 1999 Six Too Many Angels From Me
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Thanks to all for the quick feedback. It’s 6:15 am and I’m off to the lab for another blood test. Stay tuned for the results. (I know they will be +++). Fern
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At one time, I didn’t get regular periods. I was on BCPs for about 4 years until I became irregular on them. I got frustrated and stopped taking them (after I talked with my gyn). I had regular periods for a while, then tapered off. I took Provera for 5 days to "jump start" my body. Since then I have had fairly regular periods…For me anyway. I’ll have them about every 6 weeks or so. Although this last time I was surprised when I started on day 27!!! A whole day early. I’m due again on Wednesday and I’m craving Chinese food already….good sign since I only crave it when I have PMS. :) Tina
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Yes I have got my period every month for the past 7 months .I’m not sure if I’m ovulating though.I’ve just started taking my temperature to find out as we are hoping to have a baby. Regards Terri
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Jessica, I have recently been diagnosed with PCOS. I do have "natural" periods (every couple of months or so). We are trying to have a baby, so I have been charting temps and checking CM. This is really worth the effort because I know I can ovulate on my own. Since we want to have a baby, my Dr. wants to put me on Clomid to speed up the process. I will not take this because I know I can ovulate on my own and I can keep track with the temp charts, CM, and other O signs; therefore, we can plan accordingly. I just want to tell you that it is worth the effort to chart your temps now so you and your Dr. will know if you are ovulating when you are ready to conceive. Karin
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I also get "natural periods" but no more frequently than 10 weeks apart. I definitely ovulate with all the cervical mucous and temp changes, but I never get pregnant — been trying for years now. Of course, I didn’t get pregnant with fertility meds either. Now I am hoping that metrodin, parlodel & low carb diet will do the trick. I will add fertility meds to this if I still don’t get pregnant. KC – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -MLPKSP525 wrote: > Jessica, > I have recently been diagnosed with PCOS. I do have "natural" periods (every > couple of months or so). We are trying to have a baby, so I have been charting > temps and checking CM. This is really worth the effort because I know I can > ovulate on my own. Since we want to have a baby, my Dr. wants to put me on > Clomid to speed up the process. I will not take this because I know I can > ovulate on my own and I can keep track with the temp charts, CM, and other O > signs; therefore, we can plan accordingly. > I just want to tell you that it is worth the effort to chart your temps now so > you and your Dr. will know if you are ovulating when you are ready to conceive. > Karin
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I was diagnosed with PCOS 1.5 years ago, but have NEVER missed a period in my life. My doctors say there’s no way to know if I’m actually ovulating, though, until I decide I want to try to conceive and do the temperature taking thing and all that. Just wondering if there are other PCOS people who DO get their periods. Jessica
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I do. I was diagnosed about 5 months ago. I’m 16 but I started my period when I was 11. I’ve only missed 1 or 2. I get them usually every two weeks but I’ve start on BCP because they were always very painful. I’m still on my first pack and started the green pills (where I’m suppose to get my period.) on Sunday. I’m still waiting for my period to come though. — the dog is blue – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Llesi wrote: > I was diagnosed with PCOS 1.5 years ago, but have NEVER missed a period in my > life. My doctors say there’s no way to know if I’m actually ovulating, though, > until I decide I want to try to conceive and do the temperature taking thing > and all that. Just wondering if there are other PCOS people who DO get their > periods. > Jessica
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My doctors say there’s no way to know if I’m actually ovulating, though, > until I decide I want to try to conceive and do the temperature taking thing > and all that.
You can purchase a basal thermometer to test ovulation. Just wondering if there are other PCOS people who DO get their > periods.
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Hello everyone, Just wanted to remind you all about the PCO chat tonight at 9 eastern time. I’ll probably be logged on a bit early, so if anyone wants to join, you know I’ll be happy to chat with ya You can find us at: support-group.com (port 6667) #pcos Hope to see you there! Christi
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Rats..I thought this was tonight 3/9/99. Do you do this chat often? Jennifer – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Christi M wrote: > Hello everyone, > Just wanted to remind you all about the PCO chat tonight at 9 eastern > time. I’ll probably be logged on a bit early, so if anyone wants to > join, you know I’ll be happy to chat with ya > You can find us at: > support-group.com (port 6667) > #pcos > Hope to see you there! > Christi
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