Acupuncture
Question:
Rebecca Ward <wa…@cs.odu.edu> wrote: >Is there any bleeding from the needle holes, or are they so shallow that >bleeding doens’t occur? > Rebecca
Typically, at least in my experience, most of the acupuncture spots do not bleed. If they do, Jerry wipes them clean with an alcohol cotton swab before I even move, so I don’t see it. I have had a few spots bleed only a little – much less than if you were to prick your finger with a sewing needle, and it only happens once the needle is removed. Because the needles are so fine (thin) they close up almost instantly. In the same line of thought, I have had a few very minor bruises as well – on my leg and foot. Only once on the back of my hand, but again, these clear up very rapidly, and with my (way too) white skin, they aren’t very noticeable. I don’t usually bruise easily, but Jerry does rather aggressive acupuncture, (which I seem tolerate well) I’m off for my next treatment tomorrow 
Any more questions? Just ask Christi
Response:
I would be interested in hearing what it is like. Also, does medical insurance pay for it? And about how much is an average visit? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Christi wrote: > "Mark Stalter" <stalt…@neycom.ca> wrote: > >Hi There, > >Have any of you tried Acupuncture for your PCO? I am on Clomid now, and > >have just come off of 6 months of Lupron injections. I want to do > >everything I can before I jump into the world of IVF. > >I also want to know if any of you have had great success with the CAD > >program. I have been eating better and exercising lately, but I have a > >feeling that I am a prime candidate for CAD. > >Thanks for your help. > >Tina from the Frozen North > Tina, > I am currently in acupuncture treatments 2 x a week. I have only just > begun this journey, so I don’t have much info about how it is working > for me. I have been told by numerous acupuncturists that it can > successfully treat PCO. > I can say, though I have yet to see any real change in my pco > symptoms, I have seen remarkable improvement in other conditions. For > example, 7 months after breaking my ankle, I was still suffering daily > from the effects of stiff ligaments and the doctors were still > ‘threatening’ me with surgery. Needless to say, I was progressing very > slowly. I couldn’t walk with any real speed, and could only take small > to moderate steps. One day after having acupuncture on my ankle, I was > able to really walk for the first time in months, and with only 3 > treatments, I am 80-85% back to normal! This is after several months > of traditional therapies. > This experience is giving me great hope that acupuncture will help > control the symptoms of PCO. > Hope that helps > Christi > P.S. If you’re interested in hearing about -what- acupuncture is like, > let me know. I would have loved for someone to tell me about it before > I went in. Let me assure though you that it’s far easier than a trip > to the dentist.
– Rebecca
Response:
Is there any bleeding from the needle holes, or are they so shallow that bleeding doens’t occur? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Christi wrote: > Rebecca Ward <wa…@cs.odu.edu> wrote: > >I would be interested in hearing what it is like. Also, does medical > >insurance pay for it? And about how much is an average visit? > Personally, I do not have health insurance, so every treatment I pay > for out of my pocket. However, when I was investigating differrent > insurance options a while back, I remember that most companies did > cover acupuncture – usually up to 12 treatments per year – the same as > chiropractic. And, as with chiropractic treatments, you are usually > allowed to have the dr. submit proof that he/she feels that you need > more treatments for your condition. But, it will really depend on your > insurance company. > For me, here in So. Cal. I pay my LAc. $50/treatment, not including > any herbal supplements he prescribes for me. However, the average > price is abouot $40-$45 everywhere else. > Before I tell you what treatments are like, I would suggest that you > thoroughly interview any acupuncturist on the phone before you make > any appointments. For me, I wanted to know how many years experience > he/she had, whether or not they use disposable needles (Jerry, the > LAc. I am seeing uses both – and sterilizes his needles daily in the > autoclave, the same way a dentist or dr. sterilizes the equipment they > use), how long each treatment lasts, etc. A big question for me was > whether or not he/she will treat more than two things at once. For > example, if I come in for my usual treatment and have a horrid > headache, will they automatically treat that, or will I have to pay > extra? I also wanted to know, on average, how many needles would be > used. Most have told me about 12, but so far, Jerry has used around 20 > to treat me for my sinus infection, ankle and pco. Also, you will want > to ask whether the LAc. practices Chinese acupuncture, or Japanese > acupuncture. The difference, so I’ve been told, is how the needling is > done. Also, I’ve been to one LAc. who didn’t even keep records. I > signed nothing when I went into his office, and he kept no charts on > me. Needless to say, I only went there once. Jerry keeps meticulous > charts and goes over how I’m doing at every visit. > As for what the treatments are like, it will really vary depending on > how one feels about needles. The needles are rather small and thin – > almost like a thick strand of hair – and for the most part, they are > painless. I won’t lie and say that I don’t feel a thing ever, because > there are certain points that are somewhat painful when the needle is > inserted (and Jerry is trained in the Chinese method, which is > somewhat more aggressive than the Japanese method.) But after the > needles are inserted, the pain leaves and I often forget where the > needles have been put. (I should mention that the needles that have > been painful are the ones he’s used for my sinus infection and > earache, not the ones for pco treatment). > For each treatment, I have to wear loose clothing (sweat pants and > short sleeved t-shirt are good). Usually, I lie on my back on the > table with my pants down to my pubic bone, and pant legs pulled up > just above my knees, and barefeet. He puts needles in my hands or > wrists (occasionally in my forearm) in my lower abdomen (three nearly > straight across) and one just below each knee, near the inside of each > ankle, and on the tops of my feet just near my big toe. All told, > that’s about 11 needles for the pco. > I,like most people, was apprehensive when I first went, and even the > first couple times going there. The anticipation can be a bit > nerve-wracking. But after only about 5 or 6 treatments (2 each week) I > have finally gotten to the point that I can lie there with my eyes > closed and relax while each needle goes in and nearly fall asleep in > the 30-45 minutes I’m being treated. I’ve also learned to relax when > he comes in to remove the needles. My first inclination was to start > moving when I thought he was done removing them all. He had to remind > me several times to lie still until he made certain he had removed all > the needles. > Basically, the whole treatment is one big relaxation treatment. If you > let it, acupuncture will help you feel refreshed and renewed. But it > requires some discipline to make it happen. > Just yesterday, I had nearly fallen asleep lying there on the table > (if the power in the building hadn’t gone out, I wouldn’t have gotten > a bit chilly and woke up). When I walked back out into the waiting > room, there was a new patient waiting to see Jerry. She looked at me > with wide eyes and said "I can’t wait to feel like *that*!" She made > me laugh. > Just remember what I said before, going to get acupuncture is a whole > lot easier than a trip to the dentist. Not only that, but it is one of > the only ways I have found to allow myself to really relax during the > work day. > I hope that helps. I do tend to ramble, so I’m sorry that this is so > long. But I am so excited about how acupuncture has been helping me, > that I can’t help but share as much as I can with everyone else. > If anyone has anymore questions, please feel free to ask. > Christi
– Rebecca
Response:
Rebecca Ward <wa…@cs.odu.edu> wrote: >I would be interested in hearing what it is like. Also, does medical >insurance pay for it? And about how much is an average visit?
Personally, I do not have health insurance, so every treatment I pay for out of my pocket. However, when I was investigating differrent insurance options a while back, I remember that most companies did cover acupuncture – usually up to 12 treatments per year – the same as chiropractic. And, as with chiropractic treatments, you are usually allowed to have the dr. submit proof that he/she feels that you need more treatments for your condition. But, it will really depend on your insurance company. For me, here in So. Cal. I pay my LAc. $50/treatment, not including any herbal supplements he prescribes for me. However, the average price is abouot $40-$45 everywhere else. Before I tell you what treatments are like, I would suggest that you thoroughly interview any acupuncturist on the phone before you make any appointments. For me, I wanted to know how many years experience he/she had, whether or not they use disposable needles (Jerry, the LAc. I am seeing uses both – and sterilizes his needles daily in the autoclave, the same way a dentist or dr. sterilizes the equipment they use), how long each treatment lasts, etc. A big question for me was whether or not he/she will treat more than two things at once. For example, if I come in for my usual treatment and have a horrid headache, will they automatically treat that, or will I have to pay extra? I also wanted to know, on average, how many needles would be used. Most have told me about 12, but so far, Jerry has used around 20 to treat me for my sinus infection, ankle and pco. Also, you will want to ask whether the LAc. practices Chinese acupuncture, or Japanese acupuncture. The difference, so I’ve been told, is how the needling is done. Also, I’ve been to one LAc. who didn’t even keep records. I signed nothing when I went into his office, and he kept no charts on me. Needless to say, I only went there once. Jerry keeps meticulous charts and goes over how I’m doing at every visit. As for what the treatments are like, it will really vary depending on how one feels about needles. The needles are rather small and thin – almost like a thick strand of hair – and for the most part, they are painless. I won’t lie and say that I don’t feel a thing ever, because there are certain points that are somewhat painful when the needle is inserted (and Jerry is trained in the Chinese method, which is somewhat more aggressive than the Japanese method.) But after the needles are inserted, the pain leaves and I often forget where the needles have been put. (I should mention that the needles that have been painful are the ones he’s used for my sinus infection and earache, not the ones for pco treatment). For each treatment, I have to wear loose clothing (sweat pants and short sleeved t-shirt are good). Usually, I lie on my back on the table with my pants down to my pubic bone, and pant legs pulled up just above my knees, and barefeet. He puts needles in my hands or wrists (occasionally in my forearm) in my lower abdomen (three nearly straight across) and one just below each knee, near the inside of each ankle, and on the tops of my feet just near my big toe. All told, that’s about 11 needles for the pco. I,like most people, was apprehensive when I first went, and even the first couple times going there. The anticipation can be a bit nerve-wracking. But after only about 5 or 6 treatments (2 each week) I have finally gotten to the point that I can lie there with my eyes closed and relax while each needle goes in and nearly fall asleep in the 30-45 minutes I’m being treated. I’ve also learned to relax when he comes in to remove the needles. My first inclination was to start moving when I thought he was done removing them all. He had to remind me several times to lie still until he made certain he had removed all the needles. Basically, the whole treatment is one big relaxation treatment. If you let it, acupuncture will help you feel refreshed and renewed. But it requires some discipline to make it happen. Just yesterday, I had nearly fallen asleep lying there on the table (if the power in the building hadn’t gone out, I wouldn’t have gotten a bit chilly and woke up). When I walked back out into the waiting room, there was a new patient waiting to see Jerry. She looked at me with wide eyes and said "I can’t wait to feel like *that*!" She made me laugh. Just remember what I said before, going to get acupuncture is a whole lot easier than a trip to the dentist. Not only that, but it is one of the only ways I have found to allow myself to really relax during the work day. I hope that helps. I do tend to ramble, so I’m sorry that this is so long. But I am so excited about how acupuncture has been helping me, that I can’t help but share as much as I can with everyone else. If anyone has anymore questions, please feel free to ask. Christi
Response:
Hello Tina, there is a natural approch to pco support group called pconatural.We discuss herbal solutions as well as TCM (traditional chinese medicine) and also Acupuncture. You can join by goin to http://www.geocities.com/Wellesley/3549/index.html from there it should give you instructions on how to join. There are a few ladies that are goin the acupuncture route who can tell you more about it. hope this helps Lori Mark Stalter <stalt…@neycom.ca> wrote in article <693j57$2n…@tor-nn1.netcom.ca>… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hi There, > Have any of you tried Acupuncture for your PCO? I am on Clomid now, and > have just come off of 6 months of Lupron injections. I want to do > everything I can before I jump into the world of IVF. > I also want to know if any of you have had great success with the CAD > program. I have been eating better and exercising lately, but I have a > feeling that I am a prime candidate for CAD. > Thanks for your help. > Tina from the Frozen North
Response:
Hi There, Have any of you tried Acupuncture for your PCO? I am on Clomid now, and have just come off of 6 months of Lupron injections. I want to do everything I can before I jump into the world of IVF. I also want to know if any of you have had great success with the CAD program. I have been eating better and exercising lately, but I have a feeling that I am a prime candidate for CAD. Thanks for your help. Tina from the Frozen North
Response:
"Mark Stalter" <stalt…@neycom.ca> wrote: >Hi There, >Have any of you tried Acupuncture for your PCO? I am on Clomid now, and >have just come off of 6 months of Lupron injections. I want to do >everything I can before I jump into the world of IVF. >I also want to know if any of you have had great success with the CAD >program. I have been eating better and exercising lately, but I have a >feeling that I am a prime candidate for CAD. >Thanks for your help. >Tina from the Frozen North
Tina, I am currently in acupuncture treatments 2 x a week. I have only just begun this journey, so I don’t have much info about how it is working for me. I have been told by numerous acupuncturists that it can successfully treat PCO. I can say, though I have yet to see any real change in my pco symptoms, I have seen remarkable improvement in other conditions. For example, 7 months after breaking my ankle, I was still suffering daily from the effects of stiff ligaments and the doctors were still ‘threatening’ me with surgery. Needless to say, I was progressing very slowly. I couldn’t walk with any real speed, and could only take small to moderate steps. One day after having acupuncture on my ankle, I was able to really walk for the first time in months, and with only 3 treatments, I am 80-85% back to normal! This is after several months of traditional therapies. This experience is giving me great hope that acupuncture will help control the symptoms of PCO. Hope that helps Christi P.S. If you’re interested in hearing about -what- acupuncture is like, let me know. I would have loved for someone to tell me about it before I went in. Let me assure though you that it’s far easier than a trip to the dentist.
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