are carbohydrates needed ?
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Ask your doctor…. my doc said "you never need to eat carbs"…. that’s why I like him!! — Sinrod Studios http://members.aol.com/JKSinrod Coney Island Memories http://members.aol.com/ConeyMemories
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There are diseases caused by fat deficiency and there are diseases caused by protein deficiency but there are no diseases caused by a carbohydrate deficiency. Having said that, there are components in vegetables that we do need and eating vegetables is important. The carbs in vegetables are not why we need to eat them though. Katie. In article <B6A78A8D.6C59% hi all, excuse me if you feel i’m asking a dense question but: are carbohydrates needed in our diets? and another: is there a f.a.q. for this newsgroup.. if so where ? thanks, owen )
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Dr. Weston A. Price spent ten years studying primitive groups in the 1930’s. It was a time when you could easily find isolated "primitive " cultures where some of the people had begun to live off modern food and others were sitll surviving on their traditional diets. Very good reading. Nutrition and Physical Degeneration, Weston A. Price D.D.S. ISBN 0-87983-816-7
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Many of the healthiest and most long-lived peoples eat/ate little or no carbohydrate: 1. The American Indian prior to the arrival of the colonists. 2. The native Eskimo. We know the non-carbohydrate societies when we unearth them because their teeth and bones are very strong, and they are generally tall and in very good health (other than the fact that they’re dead). We know the carbohydrate-eating societies when we unearth them because their teeth are stumps and decayed, their bones are weak, and they are generally short and have died of very poor health.. Your body evolved over millions of years of eating bone marrow and meats, with very limited foilage and nuts (that’s why you have teeth made for ripping meat, not mashing grass). We didn’t evolve genetically from grain and sugar farmers. Those things were recent developments. This diet will lower your blood pressure and cholesterol and let you lose weight while never feeling hunger. But you gotta read about it first or you won’t get it right. This newgroup was the best thing you ever found. -Plane Guy hi all, excuse me if you feel i’m asking a dense question but: are carbohydrates needed in our diets? and another: is there a f.a.q. for this newsgroup.. if so where ? thanks, owen ) Featuring the worlds only Anonymous Usenet Server
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Sounds like the interesting chapter in Protein Power about the two native American populations living in the same general area (though separated by a few hundred years) one a farming community, one a hunter-gatherer community. In just about every measurement the farmers were less healthy. Shorter, less bone density, teeth in much worse shape, age at death much lower overall. It was quite a fascinating read. — Debbie Cusick "When I get a little money I buy books: and if any is left over I buy food and clothes. " - Erasmus Check out the asdlc FAQ at: http://www.grossweb.com/asdlc
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Many native cultures farmed extensively. The exceptions were those tribes whose areas precluded agriculture, such as the paleo indians of northern Maine or those pushed out onto the relative inhospitable high plains by the westward expansion of the Anglo settlers. Even among the tribes that didn’t actively farm, roots like camas or bitterroot and a wide range of seasonal berries and fruits were gathered and stored.
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Sounds like the interesting chapter in Protein Power about the two native American populations living in the same general area (though separated by a few hundred years) one a farming community, one a hunter-gatherer community. In just about every measurement the farmers were less healthy. Shorter, less bone density, teeth in much worse shape, age at death much lower overall. It was quite a fascinating read.
One loose thread has always bothered me with North American pre-Columbian civilization. At one point there was quite a sophisitcated culture that obviously depended on agriculture, whether it was the Anasazis in the SW or the Mound Builders in the E. Then, just for a number lets say 1100 CE, they went away, and were replaced by populations who seem significantly less developed. You start to see crude, intrusive burials in the mounds, and so forth. Sort of reminds me of the bad science fiction tales of feral children living in the debris of NYC, aliens in a vanished civilization they can no longer even comprehend.
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Many of the healthiest and most long-lived peoples eat/ate little or no carbohydrate: 1. The American Indian prior to the arrival of the colonists.
Many native cultures farmed extensively. The exceptions were those tribes whose areas precluded agriculture, such as the paleo indians of northern Maine or those pushed out onto the relative inhospitable high plains by the westward expansion of the Anglo settlers. Even among the tribes that didn’t actively farm, roots like camas or bitterroot and a wide range of seasonal berries and fruits were gathered and stored. You can make the argument that agriculture was a late developement, but it was doing very well by the time the colonists arrived. Despite the mythical proportions that the story has grown to, the natives rolled out the first thanksgiving spread, including the corn and squash.
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native alaskans mostly fished and hunted, with berry gathering. No farming. But I haven’t read any statistics about their longevity nor health. Currently they are quite an unhealthy population but that is with a more westernized diet. — -Beth BikeE FX, AT and rans gliss Anchorage, Alaska http://home.gci.net/~dawg/
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Many of the healthiest and most long-lived peoples eat/ate little or no carbohydrate: 1. The American Indian prior to the arrival of the colonists. Many native cultures farmed extensively. The exceptions were those tribes whose areas precluded agriculture, such as the paleo indians of northern Maine or those pushed out onto the relative inhospitable high plains by the westward expansion of the Anglo settlers. Even among the tribes that didn’t actively farm, roots like camas or bitterroot and a wide range of seasonal berries and fruits were gathered and stored. You can make the argument that agriculture was a late developement, but it was doing very well by the time the colonists arrived. Despite the mythical proportions that the story has grown to, the natives rolled out the first thanksgiving spread, including the corn and squash.
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thanks for all the responses. very helpful 
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Organization: Deja.com Newsgroups: alt.support.diet.low-carb There are diseases caused by fat deficiency and there are diseases caused by protein deficiency but there are no diseases caused by a carbohydrate deficiency. Having said that, there are components in vegetables that we do need and eating vegetables is important. The carbs in vegetables are not why we need to eat them though. Katie. In article <B6A78A8D.6C59% hi all, excuse me if you feel i’m asking a dense question but: are carbohydrates needed in our diets? and another: is there a f.a.q. for this newsgroup.. if so where ? thanks, owen )
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No. Http://www.low-carb-faq.com . — Jake ICQ# 104398585 Chicken Cordon Blue http://communities.msn.com/webjake Free Lowcarb Recipe Exchange! —
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Many of the healthiest and most long-lived peoples eat/ate little or no carbohydrate: 1. The American Indian prior to the arrival of the colonists. 2. The native Eskimo. We know the non-carbohydrate societies when we unearth them because their teeth and bones are very strong, and they are generally tall and in very good health (other than the fact that they’re dead). We know the carbohydrate-eating societies when we unearth them because their teeth are stumps and decayed, their bones are weak, and they are generally short and have died of very poor health.. Your body evolved over millions of years of eating bone marrow and meats, with very limited foilage and nuts (that’s why you have teeth made for ripping meat, not mashing grass). We didn’t evolve genetically from grain and sugar farmers. Those things were recent developments. This diet will lower your blood pressure and cholesterol and let you lose weight while never feeling hunger. But you gotta read about it first or you won’t get it right. This newgroup was the best thing you ever found. -Plane Guy hi all, excuse me if you feel i’m asking a dense question but: are carbohydrates needed in our diets? and another: is there a f.a.q. for this newsgroup.. if so where ? thanks, owen )
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hi all, excuse me if you feel i’m asking a dense question but: are carbohydrates needed in our diets? and another: is there a f.a.q. for this newsgroup.. if so where ? thanks, owen )
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hi all, excuse me if you feel i’m asking a dense question but: are carbohydrates needed in our diets?
There are no essential carbohydrates. and another: is there a f.a.q. for this newsgroup.. if so where ?
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Links/Getting Started: http://www.atkinscenter.com/faq.html http://www.locarbliving.com/kit.html http://home.talkcity.com/TechnologyWay/wallyb/index.html http://www.solid.net/~homerc/ http://www.teleport.com/~dputzolu/CKD/CKDInfo.html http://www.angelfire.com/ca2/LowcarbingDream/index.html http://www.titanic.kn-bremen.de/induction.html http://www.enteract.com/~jldavid/lowcarb/pyramid.html http://wilstar.com/lowcarb/ Atkins Diet Related Links: http://tom.cuy.net/atkins http://www.lowcarb.com/ http://www.lowcarb.org http://www.maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/ATKINS-NEW.html Body Fat Calculators: http://www.biofitness.com/bodyfat.html http://my.webmd.com/table_of_contents Low-Carbohydrate Book Author Sites: http://www.eatprotein.com http://www.panix.com/~paleodiet http://www.toon.org/~cadis http://www.metabolicdiet.com http://www.carbohydrateaddicts.com Carbohydrate Counters: http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/cgi-bin/nut_search.pl The USDA nutritional database – Carb counts on everything! Just type in what it is you are looking for. (Cream, eggs, squash). http://www.immuneweb.org/lowcarb/ http://www.ncenter.com/carbcharts/carbohydrate_chart.shtml Low-carb Cooking: http://www.camacdonald.com/lc/cookbookdownload.html http://www.kathyland.com/lowcarb.shtml http://members.aol.com/alexhaas/index.htm http://www.cest-bon.com/ http://members.aol.com/cooklocarb/frames.html http://members.tripod.com/~Dietman2/lynschoc.html http://www.kathyland.com/lowcarb.shtml http://www.egroups.com/list/low-carb-recipe-exchange/ http://www.ourlittlecorner.com/indxrecs.htp http://cuy.net/~siamama/recipe.htm http://www.titanic.kn-bremen.de/indexusa.html http://members.aol.com/Terranova0/Kitchen.index.html http://www.e-clipse.com/soy/recipes.htm http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/Resort/1700/ http://www.split.com/fat/food.htm http://www.angelfire.com/ak2/kathyslc/Page4.html http://www.egroups.com/group/low-carb-recipe-exchange/ http://members.xoom.com/Weazelle/lowcarb.htm http://members.aol.com/lowcarbs/lowcarblist/recipes.htm http://members.aol.com/rowanmoon/recipe.html http://www.enteract.com/~jldavid/lowcarb/cooking/index.html http://www.blackdirt.net/lowcarb/recipes.html http://www.lowcarbweb.com/recipe.htm http://www.locarbliving.com/recipeswap.html http://www.atkinsdiethelp.com/recipes.htm http://photopics.com/lowcarb.html http://www.jps.net/cburnell/shake.htm http://www.lowcarbcafe.com/ http://lark.cc.ukans.edu/~lash/recipes/ http://members.aol.com/murphmc/recipe.htm http://www.titanic.kn-bremen.de/idxrec.html http://207.86.247.56/lowcarb/recipes.html http://lark.cc.ukans.edu/~lash/ http://www.enter.net/~pamptyza/lowcook.htm http://members.tripod.com/~PsyllieSnax/ http://people.delphi.com/elizjack/recipes//index.html http://www.neosoft.com/recipes/ http://members.aol.com/Terranova0/Kitchen.index.html http://www.split.com/fat/food.htm http://www.laguna2001.com/barbo/recipe/archive.pl http://communities.msn.com/webjake Links for Diabetics: http://server3.ezboard.com/blowcarbfordiabetes http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/LC-DIABETES.html http://www.diabetes-normalsugars.com/ http://commodore.perry.pps.pgh.pa.us/~odonnell/ir1.html http://www.survivediabetes.com/ Exercise and Nutrition: http://people.delphi.com/theenforcer/nutritn.htm http://www.voicenet.com/~petrizzi/fitness/ckdcalc.html http://www.planetkc.com/exrx/Home.html Fiber: http://www.lowcarb.org/fiber_1.html http://www.lowcarb.org/fiber_2.html Hidden Carbohydrates: http://wilstar.com/lowcarb/hiddencarbs.htm http://hometown.aol.com/drjavaago/index.html Induction: http://www.titanic.kn-bremen.de/induction.html Medical Research and Articles: http://lowcarb.org http://www.lowcarb.org/josh_yellon/lowcarb_med.html http://www.stumptuous.com/fat.html http://www.nejm.org/content/1997/0337/0021/1491.asp http://www.syndicomm.com/lowfat.html http://medtstgo.ucdavis.edu/endo/lecture/metlipid.htm http://www.omen.com/adipos.html http://commodore.perry.pps.pgh.pa.us/~odonnell/ir1.html http://www.lowcarb.org/ketosis.html http://thyroid.about.com/health/thyroid/library/weekly/aa062600a.htm Misc. LC Diet Related Links: http://www.geocities.com/wwoha/lowcarbcanada.html http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/PubMed/ http://www.brachman.com/dietnews.htm http://www.painpals.com/txlowcarb/index.html http://www.split.com/fat/ http://people.delphi.com/elizjack/index.html http://www.webring.org/cgi-bin/webring?ring=locho&list http://member.aol.com/JepRoostr1/index.html http://www.angelfire.com/ca2/LowcarbingDream/ http://www.lowcarb.org/ http://tom.cuy.net/atkins/ http://www.mountain-inter.net/~magnuson/ http://dc.jones.com/~bgmiller/lowcarb.htm http://waltonfeed.com/omega/default.htm http://www.mendosa.com/gilists.htm http://www.suite101.com/welcome.cfm/low_carbohydrate_dieting PCOS and the Low-Carb Diet: http://www.netcolony.com/members/pcolc/pcolc.html http://www.aafp.org/afp/20000901/1079.html http://www.soulcysters.com http://www.pcosupport.org/ Plateau Busters: http://www.lowcarb.org/plateaus.html http://www.angelfire.com/ca2/LowcarbingDream/meat.html http://www.lowcarb.org/stillman.html Low-carb Shopping: http://members.tripod.com/~PsyllieSnax/ http://www.dietdepot.com/ http://www.lowcarbluxury.com/ http://www.carbsmart.com/ http://members.tripod.com/~Expert_Foods/navigate.html http://www.greatfood.com/products/grtfood/davinci/html/home.htm http://www.jerkyusa.com/ http://www.morico.com/ http://www.netrition.com/ http://www.splenda.com/cgi-bin/order2?source=lifescan http://www.sugarfreemarket.com/ http://www.lowcarb.com/cgi-local/shop.pl/page=order2.html/SID=9861622302 http://www.low-carb.com/ http://www.malthome.com/Splenda/ http://www.lowcarbnexus.com Stacking: http://www.lowcarb.org/eca1.html http://www.angelfire.com/ca2/LowcarbingDream/ECA.html Support: http://atkinsfriends.com/ Links for Vegetarians: http://www.immuneweb.org/lowcarb/ Water: http://www.classicx.com/html/2super.html http://www.angelfire.com/ca2/LowcarbingDream/water.html http:www.lowcarb.org/water1.html Weight Training: http://www.stumptuous.com/weights.html http://www.solid.net/~homerc/ http://www.planetkc.com/exrx/Exercise.html http://www.allprotraining.com/ Inspirational Pages (Links to LC Homes pages): http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Studios/3596/carb.html http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=872255&a=6346614 http://www.devtex.net/graham/lc.html http://climate.geog.udel.edu/~rawlins/training.html http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/apowell/abs.htm http://www.bodytrends.com/article.htm http://www.ourlittlecorner.com/ http://www.split.com/fat/ http://cuy.net/~siamama/siamama.htm http://members.aol.com/Terranova0/diet.index.html There is a lot of information out there, but if you cannot find what you are looking for we are always here! This is a great newsgroup for support, recipes and sharing information! *Special appreciation to: Debby Padilla for her original contribution to this list. Desiree for her list of links. Debra Long for the latest version. Barbara Ashley for her effort to maintain it. Oh, and here is a new site for those of you who don’t want to read the FAQ http://www.grossweb.com/asdlc/no-faq.htm If you have a link that you think should be listed here, please e-mail it to me for consideration. Also, If you find that one of the links has moved or no longer exists please e-mail me with the pertinent information. This post is a team effort and we need you to make it work.
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