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I have one small one under each arm pit I had another small one on my lower eye lid but that one fell off after dx’d Does diabetes cure tags lol. il keep the tags. — Sushi-Boy DIABETES for some its a curse for me its a cure – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Has anybody heard this one before in a book I’m reading:- An intresting predicator of diabetes is skin tags. These are small ‘tag-like’ projections of skin found on the neck , chest, armpits and groin. 80% of the people with these either had diabetes or later developed it.caused by impaired carbohydrate metabolism that will, in the majority of cases, go on to be diabetes. I have these on my neck and in armpits, but never heard of this before, may have check for diabetes earlier if had known
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Has anybody heard this one before in a book I’m reading:- An intresting predicator of diabetes is skin tags. These are small ‘tag-like’ projections of skin found on the neck , chest, armpits and groin. 80% of the people with these either had diabetes or later developed it.caused by impaired carbohydrate metabolism that will, in the majority of cases, go on to be diabetes. I have these on my neck and in armpits, but never heard of this before, may have check for diabetes earlier if had known
Don’t know about this but I used to get very short tempered when my feet got too hot. I now know that my feet getting hot was in fact a symptom that I had. [No bother now though] Pete Pete – Diagnosed 20/03/03 Type II D&E + Metformin
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Has anybody heard this one before in a book I’m reading:- An intresting predicator of diabetes is skin tags. These are small ‘tag-like’ projections of skin found on the neck , chest, armpits and groin. 80% of the people with these either had diabetes or later developed it.caused by impaired carbohydrate metabolism that will, in the majority of cases, go on to be diabetes. I have these on my neck and in armpits, but never heard of this before, may have check for diabetes earlier if had known
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Has anybody heard this one before in a book I’m reading:- An intresting predicator of diabetes is skin tags. These are small ‘tag-like’ projections of skin found on the neck , chest, armpits and groin. 80% of the people with these either had diabetes or later developed it.caused by impaired carbohydrate metabolism that will, in the majority of cases, go on to be diabetes. I have these on my neck and in armpits, but never heard of this before, may have check for diabetes earlier if had known
That’s VERY interesting! What is the book? I have one tag (5mm lon) in the groin area which I have had for as long as I can remember. A few years ago, I had one develop on my back. I had this removed about 2 years ago. My doctor noticed it when he was examining my eczema, so I asked him to remove it (the tag!)as it was a bit of a nuisance, as I kept catching it with the towel. It was about 1 cm long and 5 mm diameter. Recently I have noticed that I now have a tiny tag under each armpit… I wondered if there was some connection with eczema actually, rather than diabetes.! —
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Hi there. I have PCOS, and have been on Metformin for over a year now. I’ve lost about 30lbs, but seem to have plateaued. I need to lose about 30 more lbs. I know that a low-carb would help me, but I don’t know how to do it. I don’t want to do an Atkins diet type of thing, as eating high-fat foods makes me ill. I also don’t eat red meat and pork. What I would like to do is just cut back on my carbs. What’s a good substitute when I get a carb craving? Is it OK to eat fresh fruits and veggies in larger amounts? I know they are still carbs, but they aren’t the evil refined flour and sugar carbs. I might have to stop taking Metformin, as my liver enzyme levels have my doctor concerned. I went for a bunch of blood tests, and I have an U/S tomorrow for my gallbladder. I want to at least maintain my weight loss if I have to go off Met. My suspicion is that I’ll have to have my gallbladder out, which hopefully will resolve the liver enzyme problem. Anyone else have liver or gallbladder problems after taking Met? — -Kelly Check out www.snittens.com
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if the gallbladder us is negative they might try a liver us because I have the same problem and I have a fatty liver which caused the LFT’s to be elevated. Misty "KellyH" <ke…@nospamfarringtonsnospam.net> wrote in message
news:iIjea.152003$3D1.17140@sccrnsc01… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hi there. I have PCOS, and have been on Metformin for over a year now. > I’ve lost about 30lbs, but seem to have plateaued. I need to lose about 30 > more lbs. > I know that a low-carb would help me, but I don’t know how to do it. I > don’t want to do an Atkins diet type of thing, as eating high-fat foods > makes me ill. I also don’t eat red meat and pork. What I would like to do > is just cut back on my carbs. What’s a good substitute when I get a carb > craving? Is it OK to eat fresh fruits and veggies in larger amounts? I > know they are still carbs, but they aren’t the evil refined flour and sugar > carbs. > I might have to stop taking Metformin, as my liver enzyme levels have my > doctor concerned. I went for a bunch of blood tests, and I have an U/S > tomorrow for my gallbladder. I want to at least maintain my weight loss if > I have to go off Met. My suspicion is that I’ll have to have my gallbladder > out, which hopefully will resolve the liver enzyme problem. Anyone else > have liver or gallbladder problems after taking Met? > — > -Kelly > Check out www.snittens.com
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It turns out that I have gallstones. At least I have an explanation for what’s going on. — -Kelly Check out www.snittens.com "Bill and Misty Dowd" <billdo…@erols.com> wrote in message news:b5csu7$d9c$1@bob.news.rcn.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> if the gallbladder us is negative they might try a liver us because I have > the same problem and I have a fatty liver which caused the LFT’s to be > elevated. > Misty > "KellyH" <ke…@nospamfarringtonsnospam.net> wrote in message > news:iIjea.152003$3D1.17140@sccrnsc01… > > Hi there. I have PCOS, and have been on Metformin for over a year now. > > I’ve lost about 30lbs, but seem to have plateaued. I need to lose about > 30 > > more lbs. > > I know that a low-carb would help me, but I don’t know how to do it. I > > don’t want to do an Atkins diet type of thing, as eating high-fat foods > > makes me ill. I also don’t eat red meat and pork. What I would like to > do > > is just cut back on my carbs. What’s a good substitute when I get a carb > > craving? Is it OK to eat fresh fruits and veggies in larger amounts? I > > know they are still carbs, but they aren’t the evil refined flour and > sugar > > carbs. > > I might have to stop taking Metformin, as my liver enzyme levels have my > > doctor concerned. I went for a bunch of blood tests, and I have an U/S > > tomorrow for my gallbladder. I want to at least maintain my weight loss > if > > I have to go off Met. My suspicion is that I’ll have to have my > gallbladder > > out, which hopefully will resolve the liver enzyme problem. Anyone else > > have liver or gallbladder problems after taking Met? > > — > > -Kelly > > Check out www.snittens.com
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On Thu, 20 Mar 2003 13:52:14 GMT, "KellyH" – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -<ke…@nospamfarringtonsnospam.net> wrote: >Hi there. I have PCOS, and have been on Metformin for over a year now. >I’ve lost about 30lbs, but seem to have plateaued. I need to lose about 30 >more lbs. >I know that a low-carb would help me, but I don’t know how to do it. I >don’t want to do an Atkins diet type of thing, as eating high-fat foods >makes me ill. I also don’t eat red meat and pork. What I would like to do >is just cut back on my carbs. What’s a good substitute when I get a carb >craving? Is it OK to eat fresh fruits and veggies in larger amounts? I >know they are still carbs, but they aren’t the evil refined flour and sugar >carbs. >I might have to stop taking Metformin, as my liver enzyme levels have my >doctor concerned. I went for a bunch of blood tests, and I have an U/S >tomorrow for my gallbladder. I want to at least maintain my weight loss if >I have to go off Met. My suspicion is that I’ll have to have my gallbladder >out, which hopefully will resolve the liver enzyme problem. Anyone else >have liver or gallbladder problems after taking Met?
Hi Kelly! I was dx with PCOS in Dec/00 and have been on Metformin ever since.. like you, I lost over 30 lbs in about 3 months and stopped.. I was able to maintain that for the past 2 years by modifying the types of carbs I eat.. eg.. eat moderate amounts of whole wheat or rye bread instead of white bread, brown rice instead of white rice, very little pasta(only as a treat once in a while), rarely potatoes, rarely sweets. This past January I decided that I wanted to lose another 20 lbs so I started to lower my carb intake even more by completely cutting out bread, pasta, white sugar, and potatoes. I eat fruit but only in the mornings because it gives me that ‘get-up-and-go’ and burns off quickly. I snack on peanuts and Atkins Advantage Bars. I make sure that I drink at least 6 or more 8oz glasses of water a day and I take a high potency multi-vitamin. I have increased the amount of vegetables I eat, as well as salad. I exercise at the gym 3x a week and try to take a walk for 1/2 an hour on non-gym days. To date I have lost an additional 12 lbs and I’m feeling great. Nothing good comes without sacrifice and believe me it is worth it! As for the gallbladder thing, I had mine removed in 1993, so I can’t comment on the effects of Metformin on the gallbladder, but I do know that high fatty foods are very hard on the gallbladder. But I do seem to recall reading somewhere that the liver CAN be affected by metformin. I had my liver checked about a year ago and everything was OK. Hope I was able to help.. good luck! Lori
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> Hi there. I have PCOS, and have been on Metformin for over a year now. > I’ve lost about 30lbs
Congratulations! > What’s a good substitute when I get a carb craving?>
Ice cream, but not the low fat kind. Believe it or not, the fat and protein slow down the glycemic response, so even with the sugar ice cream won’t cause an insulin spike. Not really good for losing weight, but good for maintaining menstrual cycles. If you’re not pregnant, you can make low carb snacks from Splenda. You can mix low fat cream cheese (or the non-dairy soy kind) with cocoa powder and splenda to make a nice chocolatey snack. > Is it OK to eat fresh fruits and veggies in larger amounts? I know they are still carbs, but they aren’t the evil refined flour and sugar carbs.>
Yes, all vegetables except potatoes and large amounts of carrots are fine. You should eat some protein with them though (sprinkle sunflower seeds or nuts on your salad, or mix in beans with your veggies, for example). Beans have carbs but the fiber and protein in them slow the glycemic response. Fruit is trickier but probably fine (I believe the worst offenders are grapes and bananas).
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Silly One wrote: > If you’re not pregnant, you can make low carb snacks from Splenda. > You can mix low fat cream cheese (or the non-dairy soy kind) with > cocoa powder and splenda to make a nice chocolatey snack.
Cautionary notes on both soy and Splenda: Soy contains phytoestrogens. These are generally bad for PCOS people, who usually tend to be estrogen dominant already. Also, it can block the action of your thyroid, aggravating existing thyroid problems, causing them in people who don’t already have them, and just generally slowing you down. Lot of info on soy danger here: http://creativehealth.netfirms.com/soyindex.shtml I personally think Splenda is too new for us to be sure of its full dangers. It’s made by chlorinating sugar molecules. Supposedly they pass through you unaltered, but I really don’t trust it. I like stevia, but it’s a bit expensive. A lot of people think Mercola is a whacko, but I like what he has to say about Splenda: http://www.mercola.com/2000/dec/3/sucralose_dangers.htm > Yes, all vegetables except potatoes and large amounts of > carrots are fine. You should eat some protein with them > though (sprinkle sunflower seeds or nuts on your salad, or > mix in beans with your veggies, for example). Beans have > carbs but the fiber and protein in them slow the glycemic > response. Fruit is trickier but probably fine (I believe > the worst offenders are grapes and bananas).
I think it depends a lot of which of the lowcarb programs you’re following. Some are stricter than others. There’s a carb counter here that might be helpful: http://www.atkinsfriends.com/carbcounter.shtml . Usually you subtract the fiber from the carbs and whatever’s left is the effective carb content of the food. Jeni. — I have not lost my mind. It’s backed up on the server. (and the network is down again)
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>>>>What’s a good substitute when I get a carb craving?>>>>>
I just discovered ranch flavored almond slices. Sunkist sells sliced almonds with different coatings: ranch, cinnamon sugar, honey mustard, barbeque, etc. The ranch ones taste just like ranch flavored wheat thins (which I love but are a low-carbers "no no").
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I’m on 100 mg of Spiro a day for my PCOS. I’ve heard that since Spiro is a potassium sparing drug (whatever that means) how much potassium *should* I be using?
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I’m on 100 mg of Spiro a day for my PCOS. I’ve heard that since Spiro is a potassium sparing drug (whatever that means) how much potassium *should* I be using?
I’ve also wondered this since I’m on it as well for PCOS and have had little problems with the leg cramps associated with potassium deficiency. I don’t take any potassium supplements and I don’t use "lite salt" because I think that Spironolactone goes out of it’s way to store any potassium that you ingest so it shouldn’t be a worry. Ask your endocrinologist for a better answer of course, but I wouldn’t go out of my way to supplement potassium while on this med. That’s just my $0.02. 
Erika RollerGirl
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I’m on 100 mg of Spiro a day for my PCOS. I’ve heard that since Spiro is a potassium sparing drug (whatever that means) how much potassium *should* I be using?
Hello, Spironolactone causes increased amounts of sodium and water to be excreted, while potassium loss is minimized. Spironolactone acts both as a diuretic and as an antihypertensive drug by this mechanism. Potassium (Vitamin K) supplementation (including dietary potassium) should not be administered in conjunction with spironolactone therapy. Excessive potassium intake may cause hyperkalemia in patients receiving spironolactone. Spironolactone should not be administered concurrently with other potassium sparing diuretics. Hyperkalemia may occur in patients treated with spironolactone if the potassium intake is excessive. This can cause cardiac irregularities, some of which may be fatal. Hyperkalemia may also occur even in the absence of potassium supplementation, particularly in patients with impaired renal function, elderly patients, or patients with diabetes. Consequently, no potassium supplementation should ordinarily be given with spironolactone. Hope this helps. Robert
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Folks, If you’re on a potassium sparing medication take NO potassium. These medications keep the kidney from dumping potassium. If you take extra potassium it causes the potassium levels to rise and your body is not able to get rid of it the way it normally would. If your potassium gets to high you can end up with a fatal heart rhythm problem. People not on these meds lose too much potassium because of the diuretic effect of dumping their glycogen hence the cramps. But you aren’t losing potassium because of the med. — Jenny 168.5/148.5/145 Second Goal 9/1998 – 8/2001 and 11/10/02 – Now http://www.geocities.com/jenny_the_bean Facts and Figures about Low Carb Dieting
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’m on 100 mg of Spiro a day for my PCOS. I’ve heard that since Spiro is a potassium sparing drug (whatever that means) how much potassium *should* I be using? I’ve also wondered this since I’m on it as well for PCOS and have had little problems with the leg cramps associated with potassium deficiency. I don’t take any potassium supplements and I don’t use "lite salt" because I think that Spironolactone goes out of it’s way to store any potassium that you ingest so it shouldn’t be a worry. Ask your endocrinologist for a better answer of course, but I wouldn’t go out of my way to supplement potassium while on this med. That’s just my $0.02. Erika RollerGirl
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hello, Spironolactone causes increased amounts of sodium and water to be excreted, while potassium loss is minimized. Spironolactone acts both as a diuretic and as an antihypertensive drug by this mechanism. Potassium (Vitamin K) supplementation (including dietary potassium) should not be administered in conjunction with spironolactone therapy. Excessive potassium intake may cause hyperkalemia in patients receiving spironolactone. Spironolactone should not be administered concurrently with other potassium sparing diuretics. Hyperkalemia may occur in patients treated with spironolactone if the potassium intake is excessive. This can cause cardiac irregularities, some of which may be fatal. Hyperkalemia may also occur even in the absence of potassium supplementation, particularly in patients with impaired renal function, elderly patients, or patients with diabetes. Consequently, no potassium supplementation should ordinarily be given with spironolactone. Hope this helps.
It sure does. So I should stick with ordinary table salt then? Miss Jaime (Hamilton, Ontario, CANADA) http://community.webshots.com/user/miss_jaime Cavemen,and that includes you,are well adapted to a diet of meat, fish, fowl, nuts, seeds, vegetables and fruits.
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Yes. Too risky. Ask the Doc on your next visit to be sure. Be Good, Robert
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The medications in question are classified as ACE inhibitors used to treat high blood pressure and include Accupril, Altace, Capoten, Lotensin, Monopril, Prinivil, Vasotec and Zestril. Also, diuretics such as Amiloride and Triamterene, and the discussed Spironolactone. Hope this helps. Robert
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Yes. Too risky. Ask the Doc on your next visit to be sure.
I haven’t seen my Endo for over 2 years but I can ask my family doctor sometime. Miss Jaime (Hamilton, Ontario, CANADA) http://community.webshots.com/user/miss_jaime Cavemen,and that includes you,are well adapted to a diet of meat, fish, fowl, nuts, seeds, vegetables and fruits.
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The medications in question are classified as ACE inhibitors used to treat high blood pressure and include Accupril, Altace, Capoten, Lotensin, Monopril, Prinivil, Vasotec and Zestril. Also, diuretics such as Amiloride and Triamterene, and the discussed Spironolactone. Hope this helps. Robert
Sure does. Thanks Robert. :-) Miss Jaime (Hamilton, Ontario, CANADA) http://community.webshots.com/user/miss_jaime Cavemen,and that includes you,are well adapted to a diet of meat, fish, fowl, nuts, seeds, vegetables and fruits.
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I’ve also wondered this since I’m on it as well for PCOS
I’ve wondered about it for some time now. Figured it was the time to ask. and have had little problems with the leg cramps associated with potassium deficiency.
Me too. I *only* have problems with my legs (specifically my thigh muscles) when I take NOSALT. I don’t take any potassium supplements and I don’t use "lite salt" because I think that Spironolactone goes out of it’s way to store any potassium that you ingest so it shouldn’t be a worry. Ask your endocrinologist for a better answer of course, but I wouldn’t go out of my way to supplement potassium while on this med. That’s just my $0.02.
2 cents well spent. I’m going to stick to regular table salt from now on….and sparingly with that. Miss Jaime (Hamilton, Ontario, CANADA) http://community.webshots.com/user/miss_jaime Cavemen,and that includes you,are well adapted to a diet of meat, fish, fowl, nuts, seeds, vegetables and fruits.
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This group has been quiet for awhile. Is anyone there? I am struggling with the PCOS diet during this holiday season. Any advise?
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Hi I find it so hard to diet especially through the holiday season, Ive just started walking to work to try and shed some weight it takes me 40 mins, all my work mates think im mad but they dont understand how hard it is to lose weight! Are you on a special diet (low carb)? Lynn
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I gave up dieting this year. I was too depressed to deny myself calories. I ended up catching a slight case of food poisoning and that sort of made up for it in a wierd way. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Subject: Re: Anyone there?(jenn) >From: lynn…@aol.com (LYNN431) >Date: 12/4/02 4:10 AM Central Standard Time >Message-id: <20021204051031.20187.00007…@mb-fu.aol.com> >Hi >I find it so hard to diet especially through the holiday season, Ive just >started walking to work to try and shed some weight it takes me 40 mins, all >my >work mates think im mad but they dont understand how hard it is to lose >weight! >Are you on a special diet (low carb)? >Lynn
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I love the way of eating were doing. Never feeling deprived helps make it a whole lot easier. Trina On 06 Dec 2002 17:21:04 GMT, cutiepieflyg…@aol.comnope – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -(CutiePieFlyGirl) wrote: >I gave up dieting this year. I was too depressed to deny myself calories. I >ended up catching a slight case of food poisoning and that sort of made up for >it in a wierd way. >>Subject: Re: Anyone there?(jenn) >>From: lynn…@aol.com (LYNN431) >>Date: 12/4/02 4:10 AM Central Standard Time >>Message-id: <20021204051031.20187.00007…@mb-fu.aol.com> >>Hi >>I find it so hard to diet especially through the holiday season, Ive just >>started walking to work to try and shed some weight it takes me 40 mins, all >>my >>work mates think im mad but they dont understand how hard it is to lose >>weight! >>Are you on a special diet (low carb)? >>Lynn
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I don’t even try to stick to my diet during the holidays. Some one is always putting something in front of that I can’t resist 
Jayde
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heya.. I have been doing great following Weight watchers and I have been losing weight non-stop thus far.. I do recommend it. "LYNN431" <lynn…@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20021107134750.10702.00005406@mb-mq.aol.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> can anyone tell me what a low carb diet is and what foods are the best to eat. > I’ve tried every diet under the sun but have been told this diet can really > help women with pcos.
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can anyone tell me what a low carb diet is and what foods are the best to eat. I’ve tried every diet under the sun but have been told this diet can really help women with pcos.
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On 07 Nov 2002 18:47:50 GMT, lynn…@aol.com (LYNN431) wrote: >can anyone tell me what a low carb diet is and what foods are the best to eat. >I’ve tried every diet under the sun but have been told this diet can really >help women with pcos.
Hi Lynn, First off Low Carb isn’t a diet it’s a lifestyle change, albeit a wonderful one If you would like to research it for yourself here are a few links to get you going and you can always use a search engine to find your own sources of information. www.lowcarbsuccess.net http://www.grossweb.com/asdlc/faq.htm Also, you can check out the low-carb newsgroups Trina since Oct 5th, 02 195/185!/145 !! http://mekong.connections.yk.ca/milady/Wedding.htm (in the making)
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I am a wuss when it comes to pain (freely admit it). When I had my HSG test the first time they tried all I had was some ibuprofin and benedryl. I still had some percocet left over from my surgery. My ob was a little put out that noone had told me to take that. (I am such a wuss I would only let my ob/gyn do the test). Needless to say, I couldn’t do the test. The next day she had me go into the hospital and they gave me really good drugs. I basically was awake but didn’t feel a thing. It was like being very drunk (including the hung over wanting to sleep feeling for the rest of the day). I strongly recommend for pain adverse people like me to go that route. It means you have to have someone drive you and you will be zonked for the rest of the day. I wasn’t allowed to drive for 24 hours after the procedure. But in terms of getting the test done it was the best way for me. My husband was allowed in the room and he watched the whole thing. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Diane in NC wrote: > Hi All, > I went to the RE yesterday. Last (7th) Clomid cycle was anovulatory, > so it was a consult visit on where to go from here. I had DH go with > me; you never know what tests they might decide to do. The RE did a > US on me and found "a big ole cyst" on my left ovary. That’s what > happened to my egg!! No more Clomid for a while. Since I have PCOS, > he put me on Metformin 800 mg. 2x a day and I have to take bcp for a > week to get af. He also wants me to call and schedule a HSG once af > starts. He gave me a script for meds for that, also. The nurse gave > me a fact sheet on the HSG. OUCH! She told me not to look at the pic. > I said I have to ’cause it’s on the sheet. Needless to say, not > looking forward to THAT. I asked about the low carb diet. I was told > it couldn’t hurt, but I may lose weight just off the Metformin. Yea, > the runs will do that to a person. :/ > The RE said that if the Met doesn’t help me O, he may add 50mg. Clomid > later. Then injections and IUI. Anyway, no tests for DH. You know > it’s a man’s world. His motility from the last SA was 33%. You would > think they would want to check it again after 7 mos. The RE justified > not doing this by saying that those that were swimming in the last one > were "strong swimmers" and should be able to get me knocked up with no > problem. Maybe he would have checked again if I had’ve asked him if > they were swimming straight or in circles? > DH is very supportive. After the bad news at the RE, he took me for > some shopping therapy and then to eat at Red Lobster. Considering it > was on a work night and home is an hour’s drive from there, I guess he > put forth a good effort on making me feel better. > Well, I’m off to bed. Good night, all. > Diane
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>The HSG isnt too bad. My dr told me to take acouple ibuprofens before >the test, because there might be cramping after. I had cramping, but it >wasnt too bad. I would definately take DH to drive. I wasnt allowed to >drive, so I think nobody is allowed to..lol. The dr had to push the dye >in to get it started, and from there the dye went on its own. Thank God >everything is open, the right size..
Actually, I drove myself to and from the clinic for my HSG. I did have some *significant* cramping immediately following, but it eased within fifteen minutes, and I had *no* after-affects within an hour. Don’t worry about it. The ibuprofen is a good call, and is likely to keep you pretty comfortable. The worst part is the anticipation. Seriously. Laura
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Schlink…@webtv.net (V S) wrote in message <news:25739-3DC0C920-20@storefull-2238.public.lawson.webtv.net>… > Hi Diane > The HSG isnt too bad. My dr told me to take acouple ibuprofens before > the test, because there might be cramping after. I had cramping, but it > wasnt too bad. I would definately take DH to drive. I wasnt allowed to > drive, so I think nobody is allowed to..lol. The dr had to push the dye > in to get it started, and from there the dye went on its own. Thank God > everything is open, the right size.. > Now if I can get af while taking 1500mgs glucophage life will be good. > We’ll see. > Good luck with your HSG!! > Vicki
I don’t think I can take any OTC meds as the RE has prescribed a Darvocet and Valium to take an hour before the procedure. He said he wants me relaxed when he does it. I DON’T THINK THAT WILL BE A PROBLEM. DH says I’ll probably be way past cloud 9 from those meds. He will be driving me to and from the hospital, which is an hour’s drive each way. I don’t expect to be any good afterwards. I hope AF shows up soon for you. I’m on gluc 850 mg. 2x a day, starting yesterday, and taking BCP to bring on AF. The RE wants a thin lining for the HSG (9-10 cd). Take care! — Diane in NC ttc 9 yrs ds born 9/17/85 PCOS; male factor
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Hi Diane The HSG isnt too bad. My dr told me to take acouple ibuprofens before the test, because there might be cramping after. I had cramping, but it wasnt too bad. I would definately take DH to drive. I wasnt allowed to drive, so I think nobody is allowed to..lol. The dr had to push the dye in to get it started, and from there the dye went on its own. Thank God everything is open, the right size.. Now if I can get af while taking 1500mgs glucophage life will be good. We’ll see. Good luck with your HSG!! Vicki
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Diane, It certainly sounds like you have a plan, and that is always very positive. I had a HSG combined with a Lap which meant I wasn’t awake. Good luck with that. Your DH sounds like a sweetheart. Thank god for understanding DHs. Hugs, Bernie "Diane in NC" <d…@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:eaf56a45.0210302008.6d69d22e@posting.google.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hi All, > I went to the RE yesterday. Last (7th) Clomid cycle was anovulatory, > so it was a consult visit on where to go from here. I had DH go with > me; you never know what tests they might decide to do. The RE did a > US on me and found "a big ole cyst" on my left ovary. That’s what > happened to my egg!! No more Clomid for a while. Since I have PCOS, > he put me on Metformin 800 mg. 2x a day and I have to take bcp for a > week to get af. He also wants me to call and schedule a HSG once af > starts. He gave me a script for meds for that, also. The nurse gave > me a fact sheet on the HSG. OUCH! She told me not to look at the pic. > I said I have to ’cause it’s on the sheet. Needless to say, not > looking forward to THAT. I asked about the low carb diet. I was told > it couldn’t hurt, but I may lose weight just off the Metformin. Yea, > the runs will do that to a person. :/ > The RE said that if the Met doesn’t help me O, he may add 50mg. Clomid > later. Then injections and IUI. Anyway, no tests for DH. You know > it’s a man’s world. His motility from the last SA was 33%. You would > think they would want to check it again after 7 mos. The RE justified > not doing this by saying that those that were swimming in the last one > were "strong swimmers" and should be able to get me knocked up with no > problem. Maybe he would have checked again if I had’ve asked him if > they were swimming straight or in circles? > DH is very supportive. After the bad news at the RE, he took me for > some shopping therapy and then to eat at Red Lobster. Considering it > was on a work night and home is an hour’s drive from there, I guess he > put forth a good effort on making me feel better. > Well, I’m off to bed. Good night, all. > Diane
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Let us know how the HSG goes. I have to have one in Feb but I’m hoping to have it bumped up a bit so I can have it done before we move into the house. — Leigh 7 unsuccessful cycles of Clomid PCOS, now on Metformin (1500 mg/day) low sperm count for DH "Diane in NC" <d…@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:eaf56a45.0210302008.6d69d22e@posting.google.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hi All, > I went to the RE yesterday. Last (7th) Clomid cycle was anovulatory, > so it was a consult visit on where to go from here. I had DH go with > me; you never know what tests they might decide to do. The RE did a > US on me and found "a big ole cyst" on my left ovary. That’s what > happened to my egg!! No more Clomid for a while. Since I have PCOS, > he put me on Metformin 800 mg. 2x a day and I have to take bcp for a > week to get af. He also wants me to call and schedule a HSG once af > starts. He gave me a script for meds for that, also. The nurse gave > me a fact sheet on the HSG. OUCH! She told me not to look at the pic. > I said I have to ’cause it’s on the sheet. Needless to say, not > looking forward to THAT. I asked about the low carb diet. I was told > it couldn’t hurt, but I may lose weight just off the Metformin. Yea, > the runs will do that to a person. :/ > The RE said that if the Met doesn’t help me O, he may add 50mg. Clomid > later. Then injections and IUI. Anyway, no tests for DH. You know > it’s a man’s world. His motility from the last SA was 33%. You would > think they would want to check it again after 7 mos. The RE justified > not doing this by saying that those that were swimming in the last one > were "strong swimmers" and should be able to get me knocked up with no > problem. Maybe he would have checked again if I had’ve asked him if > they were swimming straight or in circles? > DH is very supportive. After the bad news at the RE, he took me for > some shopping therapy and then to eat at Red Lobster. Considering it > was on a work night and home is an hour’s drive from there, I guess he > put forth a good effort on making me feel better. > Well, I’m off to bed. Good night, all. > Diane
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Hi All, I went to the RE yesterday. Last (7th) Clomid cycle was anovulatory, so it was a consult visit on where to go from here. I had DH go with me; you never know what tests they might decide to do. The RE did a US on me and found "a big ole cyst" on my left ovary. That’s what happened to my egg!! No more Clomid for a while. Since I have PCOS, he put me on Metformin 800 mg. 2x a day and I have to take bcp for a week to get af. He also wants me to call and schedule a HSG once af starts. He gave me a script for meds for that, also. The nurse gave me a fact sheet on the HSG. OUCH! She told me not to look at the pic. I said I have to ’cause it’s on the sheet. Needless to say, not looking forward to THAT. I asked about the low carb diet. I was told it couldn’t hurt, but I may lose weight just off the Metformin. Yea, the runs will do that to a person. :/ The RE said that if the Met doesn’t help me O, he may add 50mg. Clomid later. Then injections and IUI. Anyway, no tests for DH. You know it’s a man’s world. His motility from the last SA was 33%. You would think they would want to check it again after 7 mos. The RE justified not doing this by saying that those that were swimming in the last one were "strong swimmers" and should be able to get me knocked up with no problem. Maybe he would have checked again if I had’ve asked him if they were swimming straight or in circles? DH is very supportive. After the bad news at the RE, he took me for some shopping therapy and then to eat at Red Lobster. Considering it was on a work night and home is an hour’s drive from there, I guess he put forth a good effort on making me feel better. Well, I’m off to bed. Good night, all. Diane
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Hi there, I have enjoyed your posts here. You sound like a good group of people who are supportive and offer encouragement and good advice. I am starting a low carb diet today for the second time. I have Poly Cystic Ovarian Syndrome and was wondering if anyone else out there has it too. I take glucophage which lowers my insulin level. This is because it is naturally too high. For that reason I am doing the Carb Addicts Diet. This allows me one meal a day where I can eat carbs. My doctor thought that I may only be able to do one no carb meal but I’m going for two. The hardest thing to give up is going to be my 2 coke’s a day. I can have one during my one meal but I’m afraid dinner will be to late in the day for all that sugar and caffeine. I’m going to give Diet Dr. Pepper a try and would eventually would like to get away from caffeine all together. My goal is to make this a lifestyle change and I can’t wait to go shopping for cute clothes. If anyone can recommend a good low carb cook book I would be grateful. I love to cook and try new recipes. Thanks…..Heidi
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I feel who ever invented diet drpepper should definatley be a millionare. Its all we will but, And i have noticed since being on the low carb, DP is beginning to taste to sweet even J
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi there, I have enjoyed your posts here. You sound like a good group of people who are supportive and offer encouragement and good advice. I am starting a low carb diet today for the second time. I have Poly Cystic Ovarian Syndrome and was wondering if anyone else out there has it too. I take glucophage which lowers my insulin level. This is because it is naturally too high. For that reason I am doing the Carb Addicts Diet. This allows me one meal a day where I can eat carbs. My doctor thought that I may only be able to do one no carb meal but I’m going for two. The hardest thing to give up is going to be my 2 coke’s a day. I can have one during my one meal but I’m afraid dinner will be to late in the day for all that sugar and caffeine. I’m going to give Diet Dr. Pepper a try and would eventually would like to get away from caffeine all together. My goal is to make this a lifestyle change and I can’t wait to go shopping for cute clothes. If anyone can recommend a good low carb cook book I would be grateful. I love to cook and try new recipes. Thanks…..Heidi
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Hi there, I have enjoyed your posts here. You sound like a good group of people who are supportive and offer encouragement and good advice. I am starting a low carb diet today for the second time. I have Poly Cystic Ovarian Syndrome and was wondering if anyone else out there has it too.
Hi Heidi, Welcome. I am a newcomer myself. I have PCOS and credit the Atkins plan with allowing me to conceive my child and save the cost of infertility treatments. I have been off the low-carb wagon since I found out she was on her way (and she is almost three). It is time for me to get serious again. When I was low-carbing, my cycle was dead-on on time, I dropped weight and felt great. (This is YMMV all the way.) A great low-carb meal that would be good for CAD is what I call taco salad. I brown hamburger, add jarred salsa and dump over lettuce with some Marzetti’s ranch dressing. Go easy on the salsa because it can get real carby real fast. I just made some this morning and it will probably be lunch and dinner. We can be newbies together. BTW, does anyone else here remember the eskimo list? Cya KimS 220/220/?
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Hi Heidi, PCOS here too. I went on Atkins on January 1, 1999 at 246 pounds, blood sugar rollercoaster, the whole lovely bit. I weigh 144 now, low insulin levels, cholesterol is 185 with an HDL of 73 and no blood sugar crashes. The PCOS actually developed during the two plus years I was on Atkins, but I shudder to think how bad it would be if I didn’t low carb. Advice wise I would say just give up sugar…there are decent alternatives for soda. It can be done, and the benefits are worth it. Take care, Carmen
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi there, I have enjoyed your posts here. You sound like a good group of people who are supportive and offer encouragement and good advice. I am starting a low carb diet today for the second time. I have Poly Cystic Ovarian Syndrome and was wondering if anyone else out there has it too. I take glucophage which lowers my insulin level. This is because it is naturally too high. For that reason I am doing the Carb Addicts Diet. This allows me one meal a day where I can eat carbs. My doctor thought that I may only be able to do one no carb meal but I’m going for two. The hardest thing to give up is going to be my 2 coke’s a day. I can have one during my one meal but I’m afraid dinner will be to late in the day for all that sugar and caffeine. I’m going to give Diet Dr. Pepper a try and would eventually would like to get away from caffeine all together. My goal is to make this a lifestyle change and I can’t wait to go shopping for cute clothes. If anyone can recommend a good low carb cook book I would be grateful. I love to cook and try new recipes. Thanks…..Heidi
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Hi Heidi, welcome to the group. Lots of women have shown remarkable improvement with their PCOS following a low carb diet. Hopefully you do, too! Keep us posted on your progress. Nicole K.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi there, I have enjoyed your posts here. You sound like a good group of people who are supportive and offer encouragement and good advice. I am starting a low carb diet today for the second time. I have Poly Cystic Ovarian Syndrome and was wondering if anyone else out there has it too. I take glucophage which lowers my insulin level. This is because it is naturally too high. For that reason I am doing the Carb Addicts Diet. This allows me one meal a day where I can eat carbs. My doctor thought that I may only be able to do one no carb meal but I’m going for two. The hardest thing to give up is going to be my 2 coke’s a day. I can have one during my one meal but I’m afraid dinner will be to late in the day for all that sugar and caffeine. I’m going to give Diet Dr. Pepper a try and would eventually would like to get away from caffeine all together. My goal is to make this a lifestyle change and I can’t wait to go shopping for cute clothes. If anyone can recommend a good low carb cook book I would be grateful. I love to cook and try new recipes. Thanks…..Heidi
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The hardest thing to give up is going to be my 2 coke’s a day.
Amen, sister! I tell you, I could easily never eat bread again. I can say goodbye to corn chips, Cheetos, potatoes, rolls, donuts, anything you can throw at me. I have turned my back on all other things sugary and carb-loaded. *But* I have been without my beloved Coca-Cola, nectar of the Gods, for over a month. I still miss it. A LOT. But I want to be skinny MORE than I want that wonderful stuff! So hello, Fresca, goodbye Nectar of The Gods. (Fresca really helps with the sweet cravings, guys!) Julie
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I have been on Atkins for 20 days. I lost 15 lbs in the first two weeks (Induction) and since then have lost nothing – even though I am only eating 15-20grams of carbs per day. I am deep in the purple on my ketostix so I know I must be losing something – but for 8 days I have stayed 205. I have been eavesdropping for inspiration and tips. Thanks for the supportive environment. (I would have posted sooner but my news server was busted). Koop 220/205/175
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Hi there 15 pounds in 2 weeks is terrific! Hang in there and I’m sure the weight will begin to come off soon:) Victoria 192-179-150 lc since 7-8-98
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don’t feel bad we all lose at different rates. my weight seems to drop rapidly over a few days and then stick for about a week -10 days. I had a similar situation when I started. lost 13 lbs my first 2 weeks and then lost nothing for the next 6 day then lost 1 more and then stayed there for another 5 days, then it started coming off again. I have noticed that when I am not losing pounds I am often losing inches. take measurements. they are really helpful to measure your progress when you are getting discouraged. Tricia C. 302/256/159 -2 more gone, getting close to the 50 lb mark! 46 lbs lost on Atkins since May 26, 1998 – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I have been on Atkins for 20 days. I lost 15 lbs in the first two weeks (Induction) and since then have lost nothing – even though I am only eating 15-20grams of carbs per day. I am deep in the purple on my ketostix so I know I must be losing something – but for 8 days I have stayed 205. I have been eavesdropping for inspiration and tips. Thanks for the supportive environment. (I would have posted sooner but my news server was busted). Koop 220/205/175
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dear koop- welcome and congrats! surprise! read and post, rosie – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I have been on Atkins for 20 days. I lost 15 lbs in the first two weeks (Induction) and since then have lost nothing – even though I am only eating 15-20grams of carbs per day. I am deep in the purple on my ketostix so I know I must be losing something – but for 8 days I have stayed 205. I have been eavesdropping for inspiration and tips. Thanks for the supportive environment. (I would have posted sooner but my news server was busted). Koop 220/205/175
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I repeat the diet mantra…Are you drinking enough water? From what I’ve heard from others, it seems like deep purple ketostix can often mean you’re not getting enough water. Also, 15 pounds in 2 weeks is an enormous amount of weight to lose. Obviously your body can’t keep losing at that rate. Be patient, and if you’re drinking plenty of water and sticking to the plan, you should be losing again in no time. — karen 217/195/175 (second goal) WOE = Atkins "Our bodies are where we stay. Our souls are what we are." Cecil Baxter – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I have been on Atkins for 20 days. I lost 15 lbs in the first two weeks (Induction) and since then have lost nothing – even though I am only eating 15-20grams of carbs per day. I am deep in the purple on my ketostix so I know I must be losing something – but for 8 days I have stayed 205. I have been eavesdropping for inspiration and tips. Thanks for the supportive environment. (I would have posted sooner but my news server was busted). Koop 220/205/175
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I have been on Atkins for 20 days. I lost 15 lbs in the first two weeks (Induction) and since then have lost nothing – even though I am only eating 15-20grams of carbs per day. I am deep in the purple on my ketostix so I know I must be losing something – but for 8 days I have stayed 205. I have been eavesdropping for inspiration and tips. Thanks for the supportive environment. (I would have posted sooner but my news server was busted).
Lots of people stall scale-wise for one to 3 weeks after induction. My opinion is that your body is probably rebalancing fluid levels, after the initial water loss and dehydrating effect, and that will tend to mask fat loss on the scale for a little while. — "There’s a seeker born every minute."
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I have been on Atkins for 20 days. I lost 15 lbs in the first two weeks (Induction) and since then have lost nothing – even though I am only eating 15-20grams of carbs per day. I am deep in the purple on my ketostix so I know I must be losing something – but for 8 days I have stayed 205. I have been eavesdropping for inspiration and tips. Thanks for the supportive environment. (I would have posted sooner but my news server was busted).
Koop, most common pattern of weight loss via the Atkins plan: quick loss of the excess water during the 2 week induction period followed by nada while the body retains water in a rebound effect. Many people get discouraged and drop out by this point. This is when drinking more water can be very helpful. Being in deep purple is not conducive to optimal fat loss, btw…deep purple is a high level of ketone-concentration in the blood that can cause a small insulin pulse. The insulin pulse is a feedback mechanism the body has to prevent ketoacidosis, the result for us is a slowdown in fatty acid release from the fat storage cells. Deep purple can also indicate mild dehydration and the need for more fluids…or…can indicate that the calories are much too high. (Calories, while not as focused on as in other weight-loss plans, do count at some level) Atkins has the 2 week induction level to get the body rapidly into ketosis…it helps with motivation since so much water is jettisoned so fast the scale usually shows quick results. After that, he recommends moving to the OWL program…for a reason, imo… Whatever…just keep in mind that water retention masks fat loss. <G hth, Lynne 170 pounds lost the lowcarb way–maintaining since Feb ‘97
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Koop, most common pattern of weight loss via the Atkins plan: quick loss of the excess water during the 2 week induction period followed by nada while the body retains water in a rebound effect. Many people get discouraged and drop out by this point. This is when drinking more water can be very helpful. [...] Atkins has the 2 week induction level to get the body rapidly into ketosis…it helps with motivation since so much water is jettisoned so fast the scale usually shows quick results. After that, he recommends moving to the OWL program…for a reason, imo… Whatever…just keep in mind that water retention masks fat loss. <G
Hmmmm…I find it hard to believe that the 6 lbs I lost the first week were all water, even though I haven’t lost anything in the several days since then. I’ve been chronically dehydrated for years (though haven’t been to the ER for it since the late 80’s) and usually have very little excess water. For the last year or so I’ve been drinking more and taking 8-16 grams of Vit C a day (currently about 12). Vit C is diuretic (I take this much for other health problems, multiple chemical sensitivities mostly). I also take about 3 Tbs of psyllium a day and average about one charcoal tablet a week. All take tons of water. I have noticed this diet is a bit more water draining so I’ve upped my salt intake a bit. All of those 6 lbs were lost from my stomach (the part of me that’s truely overweight vs slightly chubby…I look pregnant 
). When I lose water weight I lose it all over and feel dehydrated. I haven’t measured but I think I’m still losing from my stomach this week even though the scale is the same. Are you saying this is really a *water* loss and not fat? Just doesn’t seem to parse. Cyndi 160/154/135 since 7/28/98 "There’s nothing wrong with me. Maybe there’s Cyndi Norman Owner of the Immune Lists: http://www.best.com/~immune
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Hi all, Just wanted to say hi, as I have been reading the posts for about a month and a half now. I started the atkins diet about 6 weeks ago. And have lost 20lbs as of this morning. This group is a great source of information and I wanted to thank you all. I do have one question for someone. Does anyone else have a funny taste in their mouth? I assume this is normal. Bob T. 265/245/175
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Hi all,
Hi bob…. and welcome I have only been here one week myself. Just wanted to say hi, as I have been reading the posts for about a month and a half now. I started the atkins diet about 6 weeks ago. And have lost 20lbs as of this morning. This group is a great source of information and I wanted to thank you all.
great !! I hope I can do that well!! I do have one question for someone. Does anyone else have a funny taste in their mouth? I assume this is normal.
no… I don’t. Bob T. <— this is both my fathers and brothers name!!!
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Mary, Where have you been!!!!!!! And of course welcome back ::)) Tinakaye 203/127/128 http://tinabelle.tripod.com/lowcarb.html
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I do have one question for someone. Does anyone else have a funny taste in their mouth? I assume this is normal. Totally normal. It means you’re in ketosis — congratulations! Now you can learn about the joys of keto-breath and brushing your teeth six times a day. :) Mary S. — Mary Sweathe San Francisco, CA
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Hey Everyone, I have been lurking for a while and have decided to step out of the shadows. I am presently the heaviest I have ever been and got sick and tired of fighting to pull up a zipper on my pants or be out of breath just from walking up 10 steps. I am currently on the Bernstein diet up here in Canada and have lost almost 14 pounds in 2 weeks. Was wondering if there was anyone else out there who is on this diet. Trace
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Welcome to the group, Trace! I’ve not heard of this diet. What’s it like? — Nichole–in Montana^^^ http://profiles.yahoo.com/ms_fausey Yahoo Messenger ID: ms_fausey
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Hi there Trace and welcome to the group. If you are talking about Dr. Bernstein’s Diabetis Solution then I bet there will be several members pop up here soon. ConnieW
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hey Everyone, I have been lurking for a while and have decided to step out of the shadows. I am presently the heaviest I have ever been and got sick and tired of fighting to pull up a zipper on my pants or be out of breath just from walking up 10 steps. I am currently on the Bernstein diet up here in Canada and have lost almost 14 pounds in 2 weeks. Was wondering if there was anyone else out there who is on this diet. Trace
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I think she’s referring to a different Dr Bernstein, the one Mike Bullard used to last weight last summer. Here’s the website if you want to check it out http://www.drbdiet.com/ . Personally I’d rather save my money and stay with Atkins, or I would join a group like TOPS if I wanted a personal touch. But if it works for you, Keep it up! 14 lbs in two weeks is awesome! What kinds of foods do they have you eat? Michelle
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi there Trace and welcome to the group. If you are talking about Dr. Bernstein’s Diabetis Solution then I bet there will be several members pop up here soon. ConnieW
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Well, here goes, M7 Name is Jim and I’m a Carboholic, can I get some help on how to get started? I gotta lose weight. At the present time I am at 390 and not going anywhere but up. Help? Jim.
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Jim: Which LC plan are you going to follow? Have you read our FAQ? My advice is to read the FAQ, pick which plan you like (as LC is becoming very popular and there are many books) and slowly while you are reading and understanding cut the, sugar, starches refined flours, breads and such out of your diet. After you have picked a plan (Atkins, Protein Power, Carb Addicts, NeanderThin, Sugar Busters etc.) follow the rules for that plan. Post and ask questions galore. If your questions goes unanswered ask again. ***Important*** Don’t give up, don’t obsess and take one day at a time. Desiree
Well, here goes, M7 Name is Jim and I’m a Carboholic, can I get some help on how to get started? I gotta lose weight. At the present time I am at 390 and not going anywhere but up. Help? Jim.
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Welcome Jim. All I can tell you (like everyone else will around here) is to get one or all of the books and read them. BTW I used to weight 374 lbs at my highest weight so I know how you feel. I weigh in the range of 330 now (don’t have a scale to know for sure) and feel a lot better when I am strictly low carbing then eating a lot of crap. — Miss Jaime – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Well, here goes, M7 Name is Jim and I’m a Carboholic, can I get some help on how to get started? I gotta lose weight. At the present time I am at 390 and not going anywhere but up. Help? Jim.
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Hi Jim, Get yourself a copy of Dr Atkins New Diet Revolution, Get a good check up, toss out the carbie food, get through duction. ( it may be tough detoxing off the carbs , I felt real bad for two weeks but if you tough it out the rewards are SWEET!) dont be afraid to ask questions here, and get ready for a life changing experience. Oh Yeah. Read and post often WELCOME ABOARD Laureen http://community.webtv.net/larryandlaureen/LaureensLowCarb
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Hi! Jim, Just remember, there are no stupid questions…I bought all the books, read them, but reading the Posts from everyone, really helped me a lot…and asking a lot of questions….This NG is really great, so many nice people, very informative, and sometimes entertaining.. Keep reading & Posting. Sandy. — Sandy 181/172/130 LC as of 12/28/01 ..
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Welcome Jim, Think most of us are Carboholics here. So how do you get started? Well read the FAQ that Connie post everyday. I think several low carb plans are briefly explained there. I’m sure one low carb plan will fit your lifestyle better then the others. Next get your hand on the Low Carb book. Wal-Mart has many of them or check at your local library. Then read from cover to cover. Then get ready to be healthy! Again Welcome! — Sheila Started Atkins 12/27/99 180/142 and happy 5′6" icq 6779479 http://turkeylady0.tripod.com/
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I have to quote from a post I read that Mike Graham made once: ‘If we weren’t carbohydrate addict’s, we would not be here’ — Miss Jaime – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Think most of us are Carboholics here.
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Jim, Welcome to the group. You have come to the right place to get support and information about the low carb way of life. It sounds as though you are early in the exploratory stage of LCing, and several of us in this NG will be happy to assist you as you move along. First, take a look at the FAQ for this newsgroup? It is located at http://www.grossweb.com/asdlc/index.htm. It has an excellent summary of all the LC plans that will get your started. After reading the FAQ, choose the plan that appeals to you most and then read the book in its entirety. As you work your way through your learning curve, we would be happy to assist you with the questions that you will have. Zoe 177/157/135
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I am definately in the early stages and I’m sure that this is the way to go. I have already looked at the FAQs and I am in the process of reading the New diet Revolution Book. Thanks for all the help already so far!! Julie 175/168/130 – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Jim, Welcome to the group. You have come to the right place to get support and information about the low carb way of life. It sounds as though you are early in the exploratory stage of LCing, and several of us in this NG will be happy to assist you as you move along. First, take a look at the FAQ for this newsgroup? It is located at http://www.grossweb.com/asdlc/index.htm. It has an excellent summary of all the LC plans that will get your started. After reading the FAQ, choose the plan that appeals to you most and then read the book in its entirety. As you work your way through your learning curve, we would be happy to assist you with the questions that you will have. Zoe 177/157/135
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I am 26 years old, about 60 lbs over weight, and am having a serious problem with my blood sugar. My doctor is still trying to figure out if I am hypoglycemic or not. Regardless if I am or not, I know that I need to reduce the amount of carbs I intake on a daily basis. I would also like to lose some weight. Does anyone have any suggestions of a good low carb diet? I normally walk 1 to 2 miles a day or bike ride up to 5 miles a day. I try to alternate that every other day or so. Bike rides are usually twice a week.
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I am 26 years old, about 60 lbs over weight, and am having a serious problem with my blood sugar. My doctor is still trying to figure out if I am hypoglycemic or not. Regardless if I am or not, I know that I need to reduce the amount of carbs I intake on a daily basis. I would also like to lose some weight. Does anyone have any suggestions of a good low carb diet? I normally walk 1 to 2 miles a day or bike ride up to 5 miles a day. I try to alternate that every other day or so. Bike rides are usually twice a week.
Read Atkins, Protein Power or Carbohydrate Addicts Life Plan — Dragon Mom started at size 28W, today wearing 18W, goal 16W started low carb Sept. 2000. 5′6" Female, age 50
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My favourite is Protein Power, by Drs. Eades. It depends what sort of plan you’re looking for, though. Do you have any preferences as to whether you want to limit total carbohydrate (Protein Power, Atkins) or simply cut out sugar and grains, or maybe you just want to limit refined carbs? (I think this is the SugarBusters approach). Do you do well with rigid guidelines (for example, Carbohydrate Addict’s Diet does not allow for snacking, and sets guidelines for each meal) or prefer to just eat when you’re hungry (eg, Atkins)? Hope this helps some. Good luck! Shar – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I am 26 years old, about 60 lbs over weight, and am having a serious problem with my blood sugar. My doctor is still trying to figure out if I am hypoglycemic or not. Regardless if I am or not, I know that I need to reduce the amount of carbs I intake on a daily basis. I would also like to lose some weight. Does anyone have any suggestions of a good low carb diet?
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Thanks for your reply. I have the protein power book, and have taken suggestions from it. I like a structured diet but I also need to have the ability to eat a snack, because of my blood sugar roller coaster I am on right now. I don’t think any one diet will be good for me. I think a combination is what I need. I would also like to get some recipes. I looked for a low carb/ low sugar cookbook. I was unsuccessful finding one. Any suggestions of a good cook book. Thanks, Karen
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Thanks for your reply. I have the protein power book, and have taken suggestions from it. I like a structured diet but I also need to have the ability to eat a snack, because of my blood sugar roller coaster I am on right now. I don’t think any one diet will be good for me. I think a combination is what I need. I would also like to get some recipes. I looked for a low carb/ low sugar cookbook. I was unsuccessful finding one. Any suggestions of a good cook book. Thanks, Karen
try amazon.com and type low-carb in the search engine, check your library or local bookstore in the DIets section I personally own at least 6 low-carb cookbooks, there are also hundreds of recipes available with a simple search of the internet — Dragon Mom started at size 28W, today wearing 18W, goal 16W started low carb Sept. 2000. 5′6" Female, age 50
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I have only one low-carb cookbook, ‘The Low-Carb Cookbook’ by Fran McCullough. It is decent, but in my opinion not that great. Amazon has several others, and you can read the the customers’ reviews: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0966796314/ref=sim_books/107-3… http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0967182107/ref=sim_books/107-3… I prefer to look up recipes at http://recipes.alastra.com/ and adapt them to low-carb myself. I also use the online cookbook that Tina Macdonald put together: http://www.camacdonald.com/lc/LowCarbohydrateCooking-Recipes.htm. Shar – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Thanks for your reply. I have the protein power book, and have taken suggestions from it. I like a structured diet but I also need to have the ability to eat a snack, because of my blood sugar roller coaster I am on right now. I don’t think any one diet will be good for me. I think a combination is what I need. I would also like to get some recipes. I looked for a low carb/ low sugar cookbook. I was unsuccessful finding one. Any suggestions of a good cook book. Thanks, Karen
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Hello group, I have a few questions regarding LC diets. First I should say that two years ago I lost 30 lbs on the Atkins diet, and am a little familiar with the process. I am 6-3 270 34 year old male and I just started back at the gym. * Does anyone else get bored with this diet *this is where I need the most help* * I’d like to know if anyone has insight to countering the bad-breath associated with ketosis (like, will breath assure help?). * I need coffee in the morning or I am useless. I am going to start this diet Monday morning 3-1-99, but first I gotta finnish off the darn Ben and Jerry’s in the freezer. Thanks Henry
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First, you don’t have to finish that ice cream, but you do need to get it out of the house if it is gonna tempt you. The diet is no more boring than any other, but to make it more interesting, you are going to have to work a little harder to prepare some of the many recipes posted in this NG and elsewhere on the web. Breath assure helps with the keto breath, along with plenty of water. Some of the small mints, like Smints or TicTac help as well, but you have to count the carbs. Atkins recommends stopping coffee, but many folks stay on it and lose just fine. Coffee has carbs, and the caffeine can stall some people. You also probably want to read the FAQ for this group, http://www.grossweb.com/asdlc/faq.html HJ 245205145 -40 lb mark! yeah!!! Hello group, I have a few questions regarding LC diets. First I should say that two years ago I lost 30 lbs on the Atkins diet, and am a little familiar with the process. I am 6-3 270 34 year old male and I just started back at the gym. a.. Does anyone else get bored with this diet *this is where I need the most help* b.. I’d like to know if anyone has insight to countering the bad-breath associated with ketosis (like, will breath assure help?). c.. I need coffee in the morning or I am useless. I am going to start this diet Monday morning 3-1-99, but first I gotta finnish off the darn Ben and Jerry’s in the freezer. Thanks Henry
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getting bored with the LC CARB diet is one of the reasons why checking in here on a daily basis is a great idea! welcome to the group! READ AND POST, EVERYDAY! ROSIE ALT.SUPPORT.DIET.LOW-CARB FAQ http://www.grossweb.com/asdlc/ – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Hello group, I have a few questions regarding LC diets. First I should say that two years ago I lost 30 lbs on the Atkins diet, and am a little familiar with the process. I am 6-3 270 34 year old male and I just started back at the gym. * Does anyone else get bored with this diet *this is where I need the most help* * I’d like to know if anyone has insight to countering the bad-breath associated with ketosis (like, will breath assure help?). * I need coffee in the morning or I am useless. I am going to start this diet Monday morning 3-1-99, but first I gotta finnish off the darn Ben and Jerry’s in the freezer. Thanks Henry
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1. I am considering staying on induction past the two weeks … What would indicate one should stay on induction, and for how long?
For people with under 100 to lose, 14 days is best. Extending is for those with "a lot" to lose and if you spend a few years counting posts you’ll reach the conclusion that "a lot" is over 100. In particular the examples in the book of folks staying low longer than the 6 month safety limit all still add over 100 to go at their 6 month point. 2. I see all these carb-safe chocolate bars around, and see a high carb count followed by the fiber count and something called "sugar alcohols." What are they? Do they get subtracted from the carb count? I hear they may cause side effects?
They are the number one cause of stalls. Partially that’s because the claim that sugar alcohols can be deducted by everyone is nonsense and sure enough the ones who need to count them tend to be folks who try low carb diets. Other than stalls, the most common side effect is "severe gastric distress" as in stay close to the toilet and tie yourself down to avoid the rocket effect of flying off the seat from the thrust of what is flying out at high speed.
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hello all, this is quite an informative group. Thanks for all the tips, recipes and general support I have seen here in the week I have been doing Atkins. I was a Scarsdale devotee back in the 70’s (and remember the rivalry between Dr. T and Dr. A), and then jumped on the high-carb, low fat craze of the 80’s. I have done Nutri Systems and Weight Watchers twice each. So it is quite a revelation for me to find myself eating bacon and eggs, unlimited olive oil, ground beef (instead of 99% lean turkey). The afternoon of the second day I felt a little odd (it was like a hangover actually), but since then I feel great. I don’t even miss my gourmet bagels in the morning, believe it or not! I am hoping to lose 25.5 lbs in total, and since I have started LC a week ago I have lost 4.5 (and I am following a course of antibiotics while beginning Atkins). I have a couple of questions to throw out if I may: 1. I am considering staying on induction past the two weeks. I don’t know if my antibiotic intake (augmentin) is contributing to a slower weight loss, or if it is because I am one of those high metablic resistance types. What would indicate one should stay on induction, and for how long? 2. I see all these carb-safe chocolate bars around, and see a high carb count followed by the fiber count and something called "sugar alcohols." What are they? Do they get subtracted from the carb count? I hear they may cause side effects? Thanks for your time Onoma
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Onoma, Welcome to the group. To answer the question of how your antibiotic might effect weight loss, Google for "Augmentin prescribing information" and then search for the words "hyperglycemia" or "hypoglycemia". That will tell you if the drug raises or lowers blood sugars. If it either raises or lowers them, you may have more trouble losing weight with a low carb diet as the drug may be playing with your insulin levels. I know that Bactrim can lower blood sugar, to the uncomfortably low levels which will make you feel horrible, when combined with a low carb diet, but I’m not sure about Augmentin. Re the low carb products, http://www.geocities.com/jenny_the_bean/products.htm discusses them and their questionable "net carb" claims in some detail. — Jenny - Low Carbing for 4 years. At goal for weight. Type 2 diabetes, hba1c 5.2. Cut the carbs to respond to my email address! Low carb facts and figures, my weight-loss photos, tips, recipes, strategies for dealing with diabetes and more at http://www.geocities.com/jenny_the_bean/ Looking for help controlling your blood sugar? Visit http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/Newly%20Diagnosed.htm
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hello all, this is quite an informative group. Thanks for all the tips, recipes and general support I have seen here in the week I have been doing Atkins. I was a Scarsdale devotee back in the 70’s (and remember the rivalry between Dr. T and Dr. A), and then jumped on the high-carb, low fat craze of the 80’s. I have done Nutri Systems and Weight Watchers twice each. So it is quite a revelation for me to find myself eating bacon and eggs, unlimited olive oil, ground beef (instead of 99% lean turkey). The afternoon of the second day I felt a little odd (it was like a hangover actually), but since then I feel great. I don’t even miss my gourmet bagels in the morning, believe it or not! I am hoping to lose 25.5 lbs in total, and since I have started LC a week ago I have lost 4.5 (and I am following a course of antibiotics while beginning Atkins). I have a couple of questions to throw out if I may: 1. I am considering staying on induction past the two weeks. I don’t know if my antibiotic intake (augmentin) is contributing to a slower weight loss, or if it is because I am one of those high metablic resistance types. What would indicate one should stay on induction, and for how long? 2. I see all these carb-safe chocolate bars around, and see a high carb count followed by the fiber count and something called "sugar alcohols." What are they? Do they get subtracted from the carb count? I hear they may cause side effects? Thanks for your time Onoma
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Hey there Onoma Welcome. With regards staying on induction, I think that Dr A did mention it in his book. I really need to read it again. So far as I remember when he discussed a case study, he did keep some on induction for longer. Although I can’t remember the circumstances, there is a time when it’s apt. Looks like it’s time for me to go read up again. Well done on your numbers. Kaye – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hello all, this is quite an informative group. Thanks for all the tips, recipes and general support I have seen here in the week I have been doing Atkins. I was a Scarsdale devotee back in the 70’s (and remember the rivalry between Dr. T and Dr. A), and then jumped on the high-carb, low fat craze of the 80’s. I have done Nutri Systems and Weight Watchers twice each. So it is quite a revelation for me to find myself eating bacon and eggs, unlimited olive oil, ground beef (instead of 99% lean turkey). The afternoon of the second day I felt a little odd (it was like a hangover actually), but since then I feel great. I don’t even miss my gourmet bagels in the morning, believe it or not! I am hoping to lose 25.5 lbs in total, and since I have started LC a week ago I have lost 4.5 (and I am following a course of antibiotics while beginning Atkins). I have a couple of questions to throw out if I may: 1. I am considering staying on induction past the two weeks. I don’t know if my antibiotic intake (augmentin) is contributing to a slower weight loss, or if it is because I am one of those high metablic resistance types. What would indicate one should stay on induction, and for how long?
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Hello all, this is quite an informative group. Thanks for all the tips, recipes and general support I have seen here in the week I have been doing Atkins.
Hi Onoma, welcome to the group! — Saffire 205/169/125 - 5′2.5" Atkins since 6/14/03 Progress photo: http://photos.yahoo.com/saffire333
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oops, forgot my stats (see I told you I am new) 139.5/135/115 how tall are you onoma? Regarding fake low carb candy: low carb junk food is still junk food.
I am a petite 4′11" I was never much of a candy eater anyway. Thanks for the info
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hello all, this is quite an informative group. Thanks for all the tips, recipes and general support I have seen here in the week I have been doing Atkins. I was a Scarsdale devotee back in the 70’s (and remember the rivalry between Dr. T and Dr. A), and then jumped on the high-carb, low fat craze of the 80’s. I have done Nutri Systems and Weight Watchers twice each. So it is quite a revelation for me to find myself eating bacon and eggs, unlimited olive oil, ground beef (instead of 99% lean turkey). The afternoon of the second day I felt a little odd (it was like a hangover actually), but since then I feel great. I don’t even miss my gourmet bagels in the morning, believe it or not! I am hoping to lose 25.5 lbs in total, and since I have started LC a week ago I have lost 4.5 (and I am following a course of antibiotics while beginning Atkins). I have a couple of questions to throw out if I may: 1. I am considering staying on induction past the two weeks. I don’t know if my antibiotic intake (augmentin) is contributing to a slower weight loss, or if it is because I am one of those high metablic resistance types. What would indicate one should stay on induction, and for how long?
First off, your weight loss is NOT slow. You are already pretty small, comparatively, so for your height and weight 4.5 pounds is excellent loss. 2. I see all these carb-safe chocolate bars around, and see a high carb count followed by the fiber count and something called "sugar alcohols." What are they? Do they get subtracted from the carb count? I hear they may cause side effects?
They can cause side effects, those sugar alcohols are not _supposed_ to "count" but many people find they do count and lead to stalls. Some of the other side effects are high cost and nasty taste. Thanks for your time Onoma
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oops, forgot my stats (see I told you I am new) 139.5/135/115
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2. I see all these carb-safe chocolate bars around, and see a high carb count followed by the fiber count and something called "sugar alcohols." What are they? Do they get subtracted from the carb count? I hear they may cause side effects?
It’s probably better to just avoid those. Russell Stover makes really tasty low-carb candies that are OK in limited amounts after induction, but many people say they get intestinal reactions to them. FWIW, they never bothered me. Most of the low-carb drinks, bars, and treats that I have tried are just plain god-awful. They just don’t taste very good. Ditto with most low carb breads. Guck. IMHO, you’ll enjoy the diet more if you just stick to real foods.
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Hello all, this is quite an informative group. Thanks for all the tips, recipes and general support I have seen here in the week I have been doing Atkins. I was a Scarsdale devotee back in the 70’s (and remember the rivalry between Dr. T and Dr. A), and then jumped on the high-carb, low fat craze of the 80’s. I have done Nutri Systems and Weight Watchers twice each. So it is quite a revelation for me to find myself eating bacon and eggs, unlimited olive oil, ground beef (instead of 99% lean turkey). The afternoon of the second day I felt a little odd (it was like a hangover actually), but since then I feel great. I don’t even miss my gourmet bagels in the morning, believe it or not! I am hoping to lose 25.5 lbs in total, and since I have started LC a week ago I have lost 4.5 (and I am following a course of antibiotics while beginning Atkins). I have a couple of questions to throw out if I may: 1. I am considering staying on induction past the two weeks. I don’t know if my antibiotic intake (augmentin) is contributing to a slower weight loss, or if it is because I am one of those high metablic resistance types. What would indicate one should stay on induction, and for how long? 2. I see all these carb-safe chocolate bars around, and see a high carb count followed by the fiber count and something called "sugar alcohols." What are they? Do they get subtracted from the carb count? I hear they may cause side effects? Thanks for your time Onoma
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Hi everyone, I’m new to the group but have been reading all day and just cant stop. I started Atkins in April of 2002, lost rather fast to the point that I’m at now and have been WEAK since June, and cant seem to get focused on it for more than a few days at a time to get going strong again. I’m hoping this site will help get me motivated. Good luck to you all in your low carb journeys. ~*~Pie~*~ 254/222/150
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Hey there! Welcome to the group. The group definately helps keep me on track as I move through this intersting stage in my life. Hope to hear from you again. Chelle — 29 years old 5′8" Highest Weight: 275 (12-01) Weight When Began Atkins: 227 (7-28-02) Today’s Weight: 190 (8-16-02) Goal Weight: 160 (?)
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi everyone, I’m new to the group but have been reading all day and just cant stop. I started Atkins in April of 2002, lost rather fast to the point that I’m at now and have been WEAK since June, and cant seem to get focused on it for more than a few days at a time to get going strong again. I’m hoping this site will help get me motivated. Good luck to you all in your low carb journeys. ~*~Pie~*~ 254/222/150
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The only thing I can think of that may have had sugar in it- pepto
bismol? Dunno about sugar, but I do know it has largish amounts of sodium and aspirin (don’t know the actual amounts tho). The salt may have set you off. I know too many salty foods will sometimes set off my cravings. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’ve been so very good- not even having salad dressing on my salad, just a dribble of olive oil. No bbq sauce, no sauce on anything actually except mayo in my tuna and mustard on ham. Every day I’ve been having the same kinds of things- shrimp stir fry (no sauce, just in butter), pork stir fry (same deal), omelettes with just a tiny bit of cheese, plenty bacon, roasted chicken with a dry rub w/ no sugar or carbs. Bunless burgers with bacon and a tomato slice. Etc. No caffeine or nutrasweet even… I’ve wanted to eat dressing, especially when I saw that ranch was like what- 1.4 carbs… but I’ve been scared it would all backfire on me or I would get carried away (I could literally drink ranch from the bottle), so I haven’t used any.
Heehee. Me too. And then today… That evil woman (haha) coming around with those hot rolls in that basket… the sheer smell of them. (sigh)
That yeasty smell is divine isn’t it? I have been bad about water though. I never really have been a water drinker… I’m forcing 4 glasses into me right now and trying to increase it, but let me tell ya- it’s 4 glasses more than I was ever drinking before. I maintained some semblance of hydration purely through milk. (at about a half gallon a day, is it any wonder I have never been able to get this weight off?)
1 liter of soda a day for me. At least you got some vitamins out of it. Does anyone have any guidance on how to drink more water when you just really don’t like the stuff?
Add ice– keep it cold. The colder it is the less flavor it has. Try using a filter for your tap, or getting bottled. Another poster suggests a straw. Works amazingly well for me as it helps reduce the air I swallow and keeps that bloated feeling away. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – On the weight front- I don’t have a lot to lose, just 20 more pounds, which I know will be a bit slower than those who have more to lose. My best friend is doing this with me and she’s got about 60 to lose and she’s only four days in and has already lost more than I have. I think the main thing for me though is that I don’t just want to lose the 20 pounds, which I could easily do in a month with some phentermine… it’s that I want to keep it off. Forever. Without feeling like my skin is crawling and without feeling irritable or like there are things in my body that don’t belong there. At any rate, I am feeling good about eating like this. I’m recognizing that I’ve had some bad habits. Milk- half a gallon a day. Ice cream- Ben and Jerry’s half baked, at least three pints a week. Chocolate severely- a bag of Hershey Miniatures weekly and at least a tube of cookie dough a week. Donut holes- sometimes a dozen a day. Just junk junk junk. You would think those would be the things that I would have caved over. But no- it was dinner rolls. Go figure. The sad thing is, I never noticed all those things before. I just idly ate all that and bought it as if it was reflex or something. Not until I started this- and started watching every little thing that went into my mouth and reading labels and entering everything into my diary did I even realize what horrible habits I have had. And the single worst- finishing off my son’s food. He’s six and so if I got him a happy meal or made dinner at home or whatever and he didn’t finish it- I would just finish it for him. I didn’t even realize I was doing this all the time. ALL THE TIME! Anyway- sorry to ramble… I tend to. It’s just nice to have someone to share with who isn’t so negative and down on this way of eating. Granted, I’ve not been the best to sticking with diets and things in the past, so this to many of my friends is like boy crying wolf. arg. Stephanie
Its only been two and a half weeks and I am no longer ‘demon-woman’. I had my first TOM about a week and a half ago, and there were no symptoms for the first time in my life. The last time I’d felt that good (not counting pregnancy when I instinctively ate low carb) was right before I hit puberty. Yes, you read that right. As soon as I became a ‘woman’ 27 yrs ago, I felt physically bad *all the time* (joint pain, exhaustion, sick headaches, abrupt mood swings, sunlight always seemed brassy, ugly and headache inducing to me– my fave time of the day was early winter mornings when the light was a pretty pale lemon color, but mainly the never-ending joint pain which I just eventually learned to live with) but nobody could find anything *wrong* with me. Funny how that’s all clearing up now. — ***revek*** Don’t anthropomorphize computers; they hate that.
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I just finished two weeks as well. I have done so well- except for today. I went to a barbq place and was so lacking in will that I ate TWO rolls! Now I feel all guilty and horrible and like I’ve ruined everything I spent the last two weeks doing. I lost six pounds in the last two weeks and I’m just smacking myself- what am I thinking?????
Are you sure you’re not my twin? Two and a half for me, also only lost 6 pounds. Went to Ryan’s and had fresh out of the oven dinner roll w/honey butter, yum. Got a bit sick the start of my second week and had a bit of rice (1/3 cup) to settle the tummy and stablize things , if you get my drift, and stopped losing. I bounce up and down the scale all day/week but it never drops below 149. Don’t *really* (no, really) care so much because I’ve gone from size 16 (and snug too) to a slightly tight size 8 petite. But I’d still like to see those numbers begin dropping again. Anyway, I’m going to try not to beat myself up over it, otherwise I’ll probably just give up and end up driving to krispy kreme. I have the rest of the day to get back on track and tomorrow is a new day.
Me too. Its depressing to watch my DH drop from 133 to 124 eating twice the calories I am, but I paste my rah-rah grin on for him anyway. (He’s never lost weight since he quit junior varsity over 20 years ago). Is this common? I thought I read that by then end of two weeks you were craving sweets and carbs and such less. I feel like I’m still just dying for stuff over here. Stephanie
Less, but not nothing. For some reason (I think it may be the one 1/2 wedge of cantaloupe I had that day– first fruit in months actually) I couldn’t stop eating yesterday. My total calorie intake was still below BMR but it *seemed* like a binge even tho I was eating only salads and porkrinds. The feeling has passed and I’ve dropped back down to my usual level 650-800 cals (790-640 below my BMR —5′2", small boned, light activity), but I’m now a little leary of having another piece. Oh well… (dust myself off and get back on the wagon). You can try L-glutamine. (Hubby was a watermelon freak and hated cantaloupes but now after being on this diet he wonders why he made such a fuss before. You should have seen/heard the faces/sounds he made on his first taste. Orgasmic, I tell you.) – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Just checking in again. Gabe and I hit our two week anniversary for the Induction phase. I don’t know how much weight he has lost to date, but it shows in his face the most. I swear he looks five years younger! In the last several days I have actually gotten butterflies in my tummy when I saw then the man me too. I am now down to 213 from 227.
When I got large, I lost all intrest in bedroom activities. I think its coming back tho. Anybody else having an increase in… dreams in particular? I’ve also noticed that a thought or two crosses my mind for a second or so that didn’t cross it for… well, at least 2 or 3 years. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I do have a few interests: Neither one of us is ready to move out of the Induction phase. We have adjusted to this way of eating, my blood sugar has stabalized and my PCOS symptoms have been reduced so much that I have only had to take Midol once in the last two weeks (and that is due to PMS—not Ovarian pain). Trust me, this is a major breakthrough. I have been taking Midol every four hours almost daily for months….just to cope with the bone crunching oviarian pain. Is it normal to be leary of moving out of the Induction phase? Is it common for people to move out right away or do most people stay for
awhile? I certainly am, leary that is. Hubby is chomping at the bit to add different things to our diet. He wants to get some low carb bread and tortillas and add beans back in, but then his weight loss hasn’t slowed to a standstill. :/ – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I have not bought the book yet–it is sold in the grocery store I work at–but I have been reading it when I get a chance. So far, I haven’t found any new information in it that I haven’t found on the website. I might still pick it up, as today is payday. I visit the site almost daily to read testimonials, get information and recipes. But I haven’t read much about phase one……. curious what — Chelle West Coast Sims Headmistress http://www.sad-world.com/westcoastsims
– ***revek*** Don’t anthropomorphize computers; they hate that.
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It is impossible to have a "two-week" anniversary. The word "anniversary" literally means "returning yearly." If it’s only been two weeks, it hasn’t been a year! Fortnightiversary?
There ya go!
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writes: That evil woman (haha) coming around with those hot rolls in that basket… the sheer smell of them.
And that may actually be it, just the smell. I can smell sugar from inside my pantry with all the containers sealed. Amazing and scary. Just carry on. You’ll be ok. And if a few more months of eating just healthy food and more water (way to go on the progress so far) doesn’t do it, you can look into some supplements, notably L-Glutamine. The way I drink more water is just do it. I can down room temperature water faster than cold water. I make myself drink 16 oz without stopping 4x a day. It gets easier after you get hydrated enough. Strangely enough, not getting enough water makes me dislike it more. It should be the other way around. Weird. .. Bridget M.
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I have been bad about water though. I never really have been a water drinker… I’m forcing 4 glasses into me right now and trying to increase it, but let me tell ya- it’s 4 glasses more than I was ever drinking before. I maintained some semblance of hydration purely through milk. (at about a half gallon a day, is it any wonder I have never been able to get this weight off?) Does anyone have any guidance on how to drink more water when you just really don’t like the stuff?
Steph, I hate water, too (And I know water’s necessary to ANY healthy WOL). I’ve found that drinking with a straw helps. Also, I keep a bottle at my desk at work and just fill it up every morning—that helps me keep track of the amount of water I’m drinking. And although I can’t ever find them, I love the waters with the ‘hint of lemon’ or ‘hint of lime’. It’s probably cheaper for me to just buy limes and squeeze them, but I never seem to get the same balance. HTH! Amanda
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I have thought about moving forward a bit to add in a some fruit and the occasional piece of banana bread, but only stay near 20 or 30 grams per day. Is this what some others have done? I think I better go read stage two!
You’ll need to read stage two. Start by adding in more vegetables for a few weeks. Then maybe some nuts for a few more weeks. Then perhaps some berries. Banana bread is likely a way down the road, even low carb stuff made with banana flavoring. .. Bridget M.
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It is impossible to have a "two-week" anniversary. The word "anniversary" literally means "returning yearly." If it’s only been two weeks, it hasn’t been a year!
Fortnightiversary? — gnat!
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The only thing I can think of that may have had sugar in it- pepto bismol? I’ve been so very good- not even having salad dressing on my salad, just a dribble of olive oil. No bbq sauce, no sauce on anything actually except mayo in my tuna and mustard on ham. Every day I’ve been having the same kinds of things- shrimp stir fry (no sauce, just in butter), pork stir fry (same deal), omelettes with just a tiny bit of cheese, plenty bacon, roasted chicken with a dry rub w/ no sugar or carbs. Bunless burgers with bacon and a tomato slice. Etc. No caffeine or nutrasweet even… I’ve wanted to eat dressing, especially when I saw that ranch was like what- 1.4 carbs… but I’ve been scared it would all backfire on me or I would get carried away (I could literally drink ranch from the bottle), so I haven’t used any. And then today… That evil woman (haha) coming around with those hot rolls in that basket… the sheer smell of them. (sigh) I have been bad about water though. I never really have been a water drinker… I’m forcing 4 glasses into me right now and trying to increase it, but let me tell ya- it’s 4 glasses more than I was ever drinking before. I maintained some semblance of hydration purely through milk. (at about a half gallon a day, is it any wonder I have never been able to get this weight off?) Does anyone have any guidance on how to drink more water when you just really don’t like the stuff? On the weight front- I don’t have a lot to lose, just 20 more pounds, which I know will be a bit slower than those who have more to lose. My best friend is doing this with me and she’s got about 60 to lose and she’s only four days in and has already lost more than I have. I think the main thing for me though is that I don’t just want to lose the 20 pounds, which I could easily do in a month with some phentermine… it’s that I want to keep it off. Forever. Without feeling like my skin is crawling and without feeling irritable or like there are things in my body that don’t belong there. At any rate, I am feeling good about eating like this. I’m recognizing that I’ve had some bad habits. Milk- half a gallon a day. Ice cream- Ben and Jerry’s half baked, at least three pints a week. Chocolate severely- a bag of Hershey Miniatures weekly and at least a tube of cookie dough a week. Donut holes- sometimes a dozen a day. Just junk junk junk. You would think those would be the things that I would have caved over. But no- it was dinner rolls. Go figure. The sad thing is, I never noticed all those things before. I just idly ate all that and bought it as if it was reflex or something. Not until I started this- and started watching every little thing that went into my mouth and reading labels and entering everything into my diary did I even realize what horrible habits I have had. And the single worst- finishing off my son’s food. He’s six and so if I got him a happy meal or made dinner at home or whatever and he didn’t finish it- I would just finish it for him. I didn’t even realize I was doing this all the time. ALL THE TIME! Anyway- sorry to ramble… I tend to. It’s just nice to have someone to share with who isn’t so negative and down on this way of eating. Granted, I’ve not been the best to sticking with diets and things in the past, so this to many of my friends is like boy crying wolf. arg. Stephanie
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – writes: I just finished two weeks as well. I have done so well- except for today. I went to a barbq place and was so lacking in will that I ate TWO rolls! You’re right not to beat yourself up over it. Several days more Induction using no sweeteners, just real foods will get you back on track. Meats, fish, poultry, eggs, green leafy vegetables, expeller pressed oils, and lots of water. Keep eating nothing but that until a couple days after the cravings are gone. I’m not thinking you were lacking in will. I’m thinking you ate something you weren’t aware that had carbs, that made you want to eat more carbs. Perhaps the barbecue sauce? Or something else you’ve eaten in the last several days? Anyway, this is what does it to me. YMMV of course. .. Bridget M.
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<snip — Chelle West Coast Sims Headmistress http://www.sad-world.com/westcoastsims
Yay! Another Sims fan "I got a sweater for Christmas… I really wanted a screamer or a moaner."
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – <snip — Chelle West Coast Sims Headmistress http://www.sad-world.com/westcoastsims Yay! Another Sims fan "I got a sweater for Christmas… I really wanted a screamer or a moaner."
Can’t wait for Sims Unleashed! Simpets! Woo hoo!
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writes: I just finished two weeks as well. I have done so well- except for today. I went to a barbq place and was so lacking in will that I ate TWO rolls!
You’re right not to beat yourself up over it. Several days more Induction using no sweeteners, just real foods will get you back on track. Meats, fish, poultry, eggs, green leafy vegetables, expeller pressed oils, and lots of water. Keep eating nothing but that until a couple days after the cravings are gone. I’m not thinking you were lacking in will. I’m thinking you ate something you weren’t aware that had carbs, that made you want to eat more carbs. Perhaps the barbecue sauce? Or something else you’ve eaten in the last several days? Anyway, this is what does it to me. YMMV of course. .. Bridget M.
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Just checking in again. Gabe and I hit our two week anniversary for the Induction phase. I don’t know how much weight he has lost to date, but it shows in his face the most. I swear he looks five years younger! In the last several days I have actually gotten butterflies in my tummy when I saw man am now down to 213 from 227.
Congrats on losing 14 lbs on the 1 week Induction. Atkins says the average female, with average metabolic resistance, who needs to lose 50 lbs or more, typically loses about 8 lbs during the first two weeks of Induction. It’s 12 if she has a low degree of metabolic resistance. You 14 lbs. loss puts means you’ve got two strong pluses: (1) you closely adhered to the Induction standards, and (2) you are definitely not one of the metabolically resistant. I’m sure having hubby doing Atkins alongside of you helped, too. Neither one of us is ready to move out of the Induction phase.
Why should you? See Atkins’ comments in DANDR, the MORE INDUCTION? chapter. A wholoe lot of people here have been on Induction for many months–especially if they have a lot of weight to lose. We have adjusted to this way of eating, my blood sugar has stabalized and my PCOS symptoms have been reduced so much that I have only had to take Midol once in the last two weeks (and that is due to PMS—not Ovarian pain). Trust me, this is a major breakthrough. I have been taking Midol every four hours almost daily for months….just to cope with the bone crunching oviarian pain.
Benefits like these make weight loss look almost incidental. I have not bought the book yet–it is sold in the grocery store I work at–but I have been reading it when I get a chance.
There’s lots in the book that’s not on the website. Buy it, read it, highlight it, rethumb as needed. Then, a while down the road — like when you hit a stall, reread it. Very valuable resource. And if you interested in the best book on why the diet works and the physiology behind it (in a book that’s easy to read by a lay person), I recommending adding Protein Power to your library. Wishing you and hubby well on your low-carb journey.
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I just finished two weeks as well. I have done so well- except for today. I went to a barbq place and was so lacking in will that I ate TWO rolls! Now I feel all guilty and horrible and like I’ve ruined everything I spent the last two weeks doing. I lost six pounds in the last two weeks and I’m just smacking myself- what am I thinking????? Anyway, I’m going to try not to beat myself up over it, otherwise I’ll probably just give up and end up driving to krispy kreme. I have the rest of the day to get back on track and tomorrow is a new day. Is this common? I thought I read that by then end of two weeks you were craving sweets and carbs and such less. I feel like I’m still just dying for stuff over here. Stephanie
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Just checking in again. Gabe and I hit our two week anniversary for the Induction phase. I don’t know how much weight he has lost to date, but it shows in his face the most. I swear he looks five years younger! In the last several days I have actually gotten butterflies in my tummy when I saw man am now down to 213 from 227. I do have a few interests: Neither one of us is ready to move out of the Induction phase. We have adjusted to this way of eating, my blood sugar has stabalized and my PCOS symptoms have been reduced so much that I have only had to take Midol once in the last two weeks (and that is due to PMS—not Ovarian pain). Trust me, this is a major breakthrough. I have been taking Midol every four hours almost daily for months….just to cope with the bone crunching oviarian pain. Is it normal to be leary of moving out of the Induction phase? Is it common for people to move out right away or do most people stay for awhile? I have not bought the book yet–it is sold in the grocery store I work at–but I have been reading it when I get a chance. So far, I haven’t found any new information in it that I haven’t found on the website. I might still pick it up, as today is payday. I visit the site almost daily to read testimonials, get information and recipes. But I haven’t read much about one……. — Chelle West Coast Sims Headmistress http://www.sad-world.com/westcoastsims
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It is impossible to have a "two-week" anniversary. The word "anniversary" literally means "returning yearly." If it’s only been two weeks, it hasn’t been a year! Jerry
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This is what i did — Karen 197/121 Maintaining since 4/02
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Alot of people will – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – stay there until ready to move to pre-maintenance =) -Annette
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Thanks so much for your input. I had a feeling that this was something that was up to us. Gabe has less weight to lose than I do plus this is more about changing out eating habits so I can manage PCOS. He is along for the ride to shed the pounds he has put on and learn a better way to support me. I think we will stay in induction for awhile. Though I really miss fruit, nuts and banana bread. I have thought about moving forward a bit to add in a some fruit and the occasional piece of banana bread, but only stay near 20 or 30 grams per day. Is this what some others have done? I think I better go read stage two!
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Just checking in again. Gabe and I hit our two week anniversary for the Induction phase. I don’t know how much weight he has lost to date, but it shows in his face the most. I swear he looks five years younger! In the last several days I have actually gotten butterflies in my tummy when I saw man am now down to 213 from 227. I do have a few interests: Neither one of us is ready to move out of the Induction phase. We have adjusted to this way of eating, my blood sugar has stabalized and my PCOS symptoms have been reduced so much that I have only had to take Midol once in the last two weeks (and that is due to PMS—not Ovarian pain). Trust me, this is a major breakthrough. I have been taking Midol every four hours almost daily for months….just to cope with the bone crunching oviarian pain. Is it normal to be leary of moving out of the Induction phase? Is it common for people to move out right away or do most people stay for awhile? I have not bought the book yet–it is sold in the grocery store I work at–but I have been reading it when I get a chance. So far, I haven’t found any new information in it that I haven’t found on the website. I might still pick it up, as today is payday. I visit the site almost daily to read testimonials, get information and recipes. But I haven’t read much about one……. — Chelle West Coast Sims Headmistress http://www.sad-world.com/westcoastsims
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Is it normal to be leary of moving out of the Induction phase? Is it common for people to move out right away or do most people stay for awhile?
I’ve seen people do both. Atkins says it’s ok to stay on it for awhile as long as you’re feeling well. Isn’t it a great feeling? The book is worthwhile. While you can find things on the site, it’s not linear like a book, and you would likely miss things you didn’t even realize were important. .. Bridget M.
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Is it normal to be leary of moving out of the Induction phase? Is it common for people to move out right away or do most people stay for awhile?
I’ve been in induction for over 3 months now. Alot of people will stay there until ready to move to pre-maintenance =) -Annette
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You can stay at induction levels as long as you want. I stayed at 20 or under for over 9 months. Since we started getting strawberries in April I’ve been between 20 and 25. I’ve had no problems at this level. I think quite a few of the regulars here have stayed at or near induction for long periods. BillJ 254/189/175 Atkins since 6/20/01 says… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Just checking in again. Gabe and I hit our two week anniversary for the Induction phase. I don’t know how much weight he has lost to date, but it shows in his face the most. I swear he looks five years younger! In the last several days I have actually gotten butterflies in my tummy when I saw am now down to 213 from 227. I do have a few interests: Neither one of us is ready to move out of the Induction phase. We have adjusted to this way of eating, my blood sugar has stabalized and my PCOS symptoms have been reduced so much that I have only had to take Midol once in the last two weeks (and that is due to PMS—not Ovarian pain). Trust me, this is a major breakthrough. I have been taking Midol every four hours almost daily for months….just to cope with the bone crunching oviarian pain. Is it normal to be leary of moving out of the Induction phase? Is it common for people to move out right away or do most people stay for awhile? I have not bought the book yet–it is sold in the grocery store I work at–but I have been reading it when I get a chance. So far, I haven’t found any new information in it that I haven’t found on the website. I might still pick it up, as today is payday. I visit the site almost daily to read testimonials, get information and recipes. But I haven’t read much about one……. — Chelle West Coast Sims Headmistress http://www.sad-world.com/westcoastsims
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Is it normal to be leary of moving out of the Induction phase? Is it common for people to move out right away or do most people stay for awhile?
I am still in Induction…2 months so far… Lori
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Chelle, I know how you feel. I just finished two weeks of induction yesterday. I haven’t noticed a big difference in the scale yet, but I feel better, blood sugar is lower, and I’m not sure if I’m ready to leave the induction phase yet. My Ketostix are dark purple! I want them to stay that way! good luck to you both! Mark
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Just checking in again. Gabe and I hit our two week anniversary for the Induction phase. I don’t know how much weight he has lost to date, but it shows in his face the most. I swear he looks five years younger! In the last several days I have actually gotten butterflies in my tummy when I saw man am now down to 213 from 227. I do have a few interests: Neither one of us is ready to move out of the Induction phase. We have adjusted to this way of eating, my blood sugar has stabalized and my PCOS symptoms have been reduced so much that I have only had to take Midol once in the last two weeks (and that is due to PMS—not Ovarian pain). Trust me, this is a major breakthrough. I have been taking Midol every four hours almost daily for months….just to cope with the bone crunching oviarian pain. Is it normal to be leary of moving out of the Induction phase? Is it common for people to move out right away or do most people stay for awhile? I have not bought the book yet–it is sold in the grocery store I work at–but I have been reading it when I get a chance. So far, I haven’t found any new information in it that I haven’t found on the website. I might still pick it up, as today is payday. I visit the site almost daily to read testimonials, get information and recipes. But I haven’t read much about one……. — Chelle West Coast Sims Headmistress http://www.sad-world.com/westcoastsims
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Just checking in again. Gabe and I hit our two week anniversary for the Induction phase. I don’t know how much weight he has lost to date, but it shows in his face the most. I swear he looks five years younger! In the last several days I have actually gotten butterflies in my tummy when I saw am now down to 213 from 227. I do have a few interests: Neither one of us is ready to move out of the Induction phase. We have adjusted to this way of eating, my blood sugar has stabalized and my PCOS symptoms have been reduced so much that I have only had to take Midol once in the last two weeks (and that is due to PMS—not Ovarian pain). Trust me, this is a major breakthrough. I have been taking Midol every four hours almost daily for months….just to cope with the bone crunching oviarian pain. Is it normal to be leary of moving out of the Induction phase? Is it common for people to move out right away or do most people stay for awhile? I have not bought the book yet–it is sold in the grocery store I work at–but I have been reading it when I get a chance. So far, I haven’t found any new information in it that I haven’t found on the website. I might still pick it up, as today is payday. I visit the site almost daily to read testimonials, get information and recipes. But I haven’t read much about one……. — Chelle West Coast Sims Headmistress http://www.sad-world.com/westcoastsims
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Hi! Low-carb lurker, here. I have hypothyroidism and insulin resistance. Low carb is the ONLY way I can lose a pound! I can tell you that the thyroid problems have a lot to do with the slow weight loss. Check out this site on thyroid disease and weight loss: http://thyroid.about.com/cs/dietweightloss/index.htm . There are two pages to this index. The second at http://thyroid.about.com/cs/dietweightloss/index_2.htm . The second has more information concerning low-carb diets, but both have a LOT of great information. Also, the main site ( http://thyroid.about.com/ ) is truly one of the BEST sources of information on hypothyroidism. I really and truly encourage you to check it out! Beth (plainjane) Can’t admit it…yet/—/130 Please remove the "XX" from my email address to send a message Our greatest glory is not in never failing, but in rising up every time we fail. — Ralph Waldo Emerson
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi there gang, I have hypothyroid, and hashimotos, both of which make it very hard to lose any weight. But, I can only seem to lose on a low carb diet, I just lose it slower than some. My question is, is there anyone else on here that is hypothyroid or hashimotos, and if you are, what are you doing aside from LC to help your weight? Due to the almost constant ache in my hips and knees, I do walk in the evenings, but other exercise is almost unbearable. I am having my blood tested for rhuematoid arthritis soon, and it is seen in people with hashimotos sometimes. I have heard that taking selenium helps, so i am doing that, but is there anything else any other hypo LC’ers may be able to offer? 235/225/135 Jillian
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Hi there gang, I have hypothyroid, and hashimotos, both of which make it very hard to lose any weight. But, I can only seem to lose on a low carb diet, I just lose it slower than some. My question is, is there anyone else on here that is hypothyroid or hashimotos, and if you are, what are you doing aside from LC to help your weight? Due to the almost constant ache in my hips and knees, I do walk in the evenings, but other exercise is almost unbearable. I am having my blood tested for rhuematoid arthritis soon, and it is seen in people with hashimotos sometimes. I have heard that taking selenium helps, so i am doing that, but is there anything else any other hypo LC’ers may be able to offer? 235/225/135 Jillian
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The web suggests this is an autoimmune problem. If so then not only is low-carbing a good idea but also removing those things that are implicated in autoimmune problems. Commonly they are wheat, dairy, eggs, the night-shade family (potatoes, egg-plant/aubergines, tomatoes) nuts and beans/legumes. Greg — Great freeware tools http://www.lorriman.com
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi there gang, I have hypothyroid, and hashimotos, both of which make it very hard to lose any weight. But, I can only seem to lose on a low carb diet, I just lose it slower than some. My question is, is there anyone else on here that is hypothyroid or hashimotos, and if you are, what are you doing aside from LC to help your weight? Due to the almost constant ache in my hips and knees, I do walk in the evenings, but other exercise is almost unbearable. I am having my blood tested for rhuematoid arthritis soon, and it is seen in people with hashimotos sometimes. I have heard that taking selenium helps, so i am doing that, but is there anything else any other hypo LC’ers may be able to offer? 235/225/135 Jillian
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Hello, I have hypothyroidism, pcos, and hypoadrenal. I few years ago if you asked me if I was allergic to any foods, I would have told you no. I have learned by testing and process of elimination I am allergic to many foods. Wheat causes sinuses problems along with terrible headaches, but it also causes such stiffness in the morning I can barely walk. Yes I knew I had this stiffness a few years ago, but arthritis runs in the family, so I thought it was normal for me. What foods cause problems for me, probably will not cause problems for you, so the only way to find out it to experiment for yourself. Good luck on your journey, essense – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi there gang, I have hypothyroid, and hashimotos, both of which make it very hard to lose any weight. But, I can only seem to lose on a low carb diet, I just lose it slower than some. My question is, is there anyone else on here that is hypothyroid or hashimotos, and if you are, what are you doing aside from LC to help your weight? Due to the almost constant ache in my hips and knees, I do walk in the evenings, but other exercise is almost unbearable. I am having my blood tested for rhuematoid arthritis soon, and it is seen in people with hashimotos sometimes. I have heard that taking selenium helps, so i am doing that, but is there anything else any other hypo LC’ers may be able to offer? 235/225/135 Jillian
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Hi there gang, I have hypothyroid, and hashimotos, both of which make it very hard to lose any weight. But, I can only seem to lose on a low carb diet, I just lose it slower than some. My question is, is there anyone else on here that is hypothyroid or hashimotos, and if you are, what are you doing aside from LC to help your weight?
* At this time I have to both low-carb and low-cal just NOT to gain weight. At first Atkins worked great for me as I was losing 1 or 2 1/2 lbs a week and lost 40 lbs in 5 months. Then the weight loss STOPPED last November and only "starvation" works now – less than 1000 cals a day. So I’m at the same weight now since last Nov and getting very discouraged. (BTW as soon as I try to increase calories I immediately GAIN weight so I am stuck). I have heard that taking selenium helps, so i am doing that, but is there anything else any other hypo LC’ers may be able to offer? 235/225/135 Jillian
* I’m also hypothyroid and the first 40 lbs were no problem losing on Atkins, but when your body learns to convert protein to carbos you stop losing – has nothing to do with your thyroid. If you give up the protein all you have left to live on is fats and oils and that just don’t work. Atkins doesn’t work for everyone. — Wysong 206/166/130 or so… LC since mid July 2001 Low-Carb & Low-Cal since 3/11 F – Age 57 H. 5′ 6"
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<<Then the weight loss STOPPED last November and only "starvation" works now – less than 1000 cals a day. So I’m at the same weight now since last Nov and getting very discouraged. I’ve heard many people who have stalled on Atkins have had great success with Louise Gittleman’s Fat Flush Plan, which is a moderate carb plan with some focus on detoxifying the liver, which the author claims greatly aids fat loss. Two links to check out: For general info: http://www.ivillage.com/diet/features/fatflush/articles/0,5050,222480…, 00.html A Yahoo group of people following the plan: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FatFlushPlan/ Barb
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Hi ladies….I’m new to this PCOS stuff and have a question. I was diagnosed this past May and have been doing quite a bit of reading on PCOS. I read somewhere that if you have PCOS there is a 50% chance that your sister also has it…is this true? I suggested to my sister that she ask her gyn if he thought it was a concern when she went to her 6wk postpartum check up (she just had a beautiful baby girl) since my symptoms became worse after I gave birth to my son. I figured it couldn’t hurt, especially since she had a miscarriage before her baby was born and had quite a bit of trouble getting pg in the first place. This is the email she sent to me with his response…. "My appointment went fine. I told Dr. De Greef about the PCOS and he said that the pill would pretty much keep me from getting it. He said to keep an eye on my blood sugar levels though and watch my weight." This isn’t correct is it? From what I understand the pill just pretty much masks the symptoms of PCOS. As far as I know she doesn’t have any of the obvious symptoms, but she has been on the pill since she was around 16yrs old…she is now 29. I would like to convince her to get a second opinion. I don’t want her to find out the hard way like I did that she has this when she is trying for her second child. If anyone could help me I’d appreciate it alot!! Kim
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I took the pill for 10+ years. It masked my symptoms to the point that when I stoppped having a period the doctors just said it was because I had been on the pill to long. I am now dealing with the complications of that. I would suggest your sister visit your doc. "Kimmy Sue" <ithink…@kimmy.com> wrote in message
news:3d2a167c_1@news.provide.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hi ladies….I’m new to this PCOS stuff and have a question. I was diagnosed > this past May and have been doing quite a bit of reading on PCOS. I read > somewhere that if you have PCOS there is a 50% chance that your sister also > has it…is this true? I suggested to my sister that she ask her gyn if he > thought it was a concern when she went to her 6wk postpartum check up (she > just had a beautiful baby girl) since my symptoms became worse after I gave > birth to my son. I figured it couldn’t hurt, especially since she had a > miscarriage before her baby was born and had quite a bit of trouble getting > pg in the first place. This is the email she sent to me with his > response…. > "My appointment went fine. I told Dr. De Greef about the PCOS and he said > that the pill would pretty much keep me from getting it. He said to keep an > eye on my blood sugar levels though and watch my weight." > This isn’t correct is it? From what I understand the pill just pretty much > masks the symptoms of PCOS. As far as I know she doesn’t have any of the > obvious symptoms, but she has been on the pill since she was around 16yrs > old…she is now 29. I would like to convince her to get a second opinion. I > don’t want her to find out the hard way like I did that she has this when > she is trying for her second child. > If anyone could help me I’d appreciate it alot!! > Kim
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the dr. is a little off. The pill will help minimize symptoms, but doesn’t prevent. As my dr. put it; it can help preserve your fertility (though I wouldn’t say that is 100 percent true either). Also, if she is worried about PCO make sure she is on the type of pill that has low androgens just in case (orthocept, demulen, desogen are examples. If her blood sugar levels were fine through her pg, then there is a chance she doesn’t have it. PCOer’s are way more likely to get gestational diabetes (lets put it this way I bombed the urine tests at almost every drs. appt and felt they should have put me on the gestational diabetic diet from the start). Also, when did she miscarry. If it was very early than it could be a progesterone problem (common with PCO). My recommendation (and I am not a dr.): is that when she is trying for #2, try for about three months (max). At that point, insist on the blood work to diagnosis PCO. A good dr. will not let a PCOer go very long unassisted in trying to get pg. My dr. intervened immediately (however, I was 36 at the time). Also, how did he suggest she keep an eye on her sugar levels. Also, my symptoms seem to have died down a bit (at least the hair issue) now that I gave birth (and back on the pill), has anyone else had that happen after childbirth? hope this helps elyann (mother of Jonathan almost 11 months) – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Kimmy Sue wrote: > Hi ladies….I’m new to this PCOS stuff and have a question. I was diagnosed > this past May and have been doing quite a bit of reading on PCOS. I read > somewhere that if you have PCOS there is a 50% chance that your sister also > has it…is this true? I suggested to my sister that she ask her gyn if he > thought it was a concern when she went to her 6wk postpartum check up (she > just had a beautiful baby girl) since my symptoms became worse after I gave > birth to my son. I figured it couldn’t hurt, especially since she had a > miscarriage before her baby was born and had quite a bit of trouble getting > pg in the first place. This is the email she sent to me with his > response…. > "My appointment went fine. I told Dr. De Greef about the PCOS and he said > that the pill would pretty much keep me from getting it. He said to keep an > eye on my blood sugar levels though and watch my weight." > This isn’t correct is it? From what I understand the pill just pretty much > masks the symptoms of PCOS. As far as I know she doesn’t have any of the > obvious symptoms, but she has been on the pill since she was around 16yrs > old…she is now 29. I would like to convince her to get a second opinion. I > don’t want her to find out the hard way like I did that she has this when > she is trying for her second child. > If anyone could help me I’d appreciate it alot!! > Kim
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as far as I know her sugar levels were find through out her pg but I do know she had some protein in her uring towards the end. When I was pg with my son I also had normal sugar levels. It wasn’t until almost 3 years later that I was diagnosed with PCOS. Her miscarriage was in the first month or so, unfortunately I can’t remember for sure. So do you think she shouldn’t push the PCOS issue with her Dr. until she is TTC again? Kim "Elyann Katz" <ely…@starpower.net> wrote in message
news:3D2AF066.4AC6BF46@starpower.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> the dr. is a little off. The pill will help minimize symptoms, but doesn’t > prevent. As my dr. put it; it can help preserve your fertility (though I > wouldn’t say that is 100 percent true either). Also, if she is worried about > PCO make sure she is on the type of pill that has low androgens just in case > (orthocept, demulen, desogen are examples. If her blood sugar levels were fine > through her pg, then there is a chance she doesn’t have it. PCOer’s are way > more likely to get gestational diabetes (lets put it this way I bombed the > urine tests at almost every drs. appt and felt they should have put me on the > gestational diabetic diet from the start). Also, when did she miscarry. If it > was very early than it could be a progesterone problem (common with PCO). My > recommendation (and I am not a dr.): is that when she is trying for #2, try for > about three months (max). At that point, insist on the blood work to diagnosis > PCO. A good dr. will not let a PCOer go very long unassisted in trying to get > pg. My dr. intervened immediately (however, I was 36 at the time). Also, how > did he suggest she keep an eye on her sugar levels. > Also, my symptoms seem to have died down a bit (at least the hair issue) now > that I gave birth (and back on the pill), has anyone else had that happen after > childbirth? > hope this helps > elyann > (mother of Jonathan almost 11 months) > Kimmy Sue wrote: > > Hi ladies….I’m new to this PCOS stuff and have a question. I was diagnosed > > this past May and have been doing quite a bit of reading on PCOS. I read > > somewhere that if you have PCOS there is a 50% chance that your sister also > > has it…is this true? I suggested to my sister that she ask her gyn if he > > thought it was a concern when she went to her 6wk postpartum check up (she > > just had a beautiful baby girl) since my symptoms became worse after I gave > > birth to my son. I figured it couldn’t hurt, especially since she had a > > miscarriage before her baby was born and had quite a bit of trouble getting > > pg in the first place. This is the email she sent to me with his > > response…. > > "My appointment went fine. I told Dr. De Greef about the PCOS and he said > > that the pill would pretty much keep me from getting it. He said to keep an > > eye on my blood sugar levels though and watch my weight." > > This isn’t correct is it? From what I understand the pill just pretty much > > masks the symptoms of PCOS. As far as I know she doesn’t have any of the > > obvious symptoms, but she has been on the pill since she was around 16yrs > > old…she is now 29. I would like to convince her to get a second opinion. I > > don’t want her to find out the hard way like I did that she has this when > > she is trying for her second child. > > If anyone could help me I’d appreciate it alot!! > > Kim
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If it were me, I would push the blood work at her next regular exam before she starts trying to conceive (heck, I would lie and say we had been trying for a couple of months). If she isn’t comfortable with asking the ob/gyn suggest she go to her internist/general practitioner to do the blood work so she can take it to her dr. If her miscarriage was that early it could have been due to low progesterone (again a good ob/gyn would then put her on progesterone during her first trimester). The thing about PCO is that it is a syndrome with a wide range of symptoms in individuals so some people may not know they have it or have problems getting pg. I don’t have insulin resistance for example and I got pg on the smallest dose of clomid possible (and in the second month). So, she could be one of the lucky ones (or not have it) and since stress can affect conception, she might not want to freak out. My own personal view – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Kimmy Sue wrote: > as far as I know her sugar levels were find through out her pg but I do know > she had some protein in her uring towards the end. When I was pg with my > son I also had normal sugar levels. It wasn’t until almost 3 years later > that I was diagnosed with PCOS. > Her miscarriage was in the first month or so, unfortunately I can’t remember > for sure. > So do you think she shouldn’t push the PCOS issue with her Dr. until she is > TTC again? > Kim > "Elyann Katz" <ely…@starpower.net> wrote in message > news:3D2AF066.4AC6BF46@starpower.net… > > the dr. is a little off. The pill will help minimize symptoms, but > doesn’t > > prevent. As my dr. put it; it can help preserve your fertility (though I > > wouldn’t say that is 100 percent true either). Also, if she is worried > about > > PCO make sure she is on the type of pill that has low androgens just in > case > > (orthocept, demulen, desogen are examples. If her blood sugar levels > were fine > > through her pg, then there is a chance she doesn’t have it. PCOer’s are > way > > more likely to get gestational diabetes (lets put it this way I bombed > the > > urine tests at almost every drs. appt and felt they should have put me on > the > > gestational diabetic diet from the start). Also, when did she miscarry. > If it > > was very early than it could be a progesterone problem (common with PCO). > My > > recommendation (and I am not a dr.): is that when she is trying for #2, > try for > > about three months (max). At that point, insist on the blood work to > diagnosis > > PCO. A good dr. will not let a PCOer go very long unassisted in trying to > get > > pg. My dr. intervened immediately (however, I was 36 at the time). > Also, how > > did he suggest she keep an eye on her sugar levels. > > Also, my symptoms seem to have died down a bit (at least the hair issue) > now > > that I gave birth (and back on the pill), has anyone else had that happen > after > > childbirth? > > hope this helps > > elyann > > (mother of Jonathan almost 11 months) > > Kimmy Sue wrote: > > > Hi ladies….I’m new to this PCOS stuff and have a question. I was > diagnosed > > > this past May and have been doing quite a bit of reading on PCOS. I read > > > somewhere that if you have PCOS there is a 50% chance that your sister > also > > > has it…is this true? I suggested to my sister that she ask her gyn if > he > > > thought it was a concern when she went to her 6wk postpartum check up > (she > > > just had a beautiful baby girl) since my symptoms became worse after I > gave > > > birth to my son. I figured it couldn’t hurt, especially since she had a > > > miscarriage before her baby was born and had quite a bit of trouble > getting > > > pg in the first place. This is the email she sent to me with his > > > response…. > > > "My appointment went fine. I told Dr. De Greef about the PCOS and he > said > > > that the pill would pretty much keep me from getting it. He said to keep > an > > > eye on my blood sugar levels though and watch my weight." > > > This isn’t correct is it? From what I understand the pill just pretty > much > > > masks the symptoms of PCOS. As far as I know she doesn’t have any of the > > > obvious symptoms, but she has been on the pill since she was around > 16yrs > > > old…she is now 29. I would like to convince her to get a second > opinion. I > > > don’t want her to find out the hard way like I did that she has this > when > > > she is trying for her second child. > > > If anyone could help me I’d appreciate it alot!! > > > Kim
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does anyone know where I could find information on the hereditary aspects of PCOS? "Seanang" <kerryREM…@seanang.zzn.com> wrote in message
news:ionliusu9kpr0vd4bkna4f8sgosjq9499j@4ax.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> On Mon, 8 Jul 2002 18:47:21 -0400, "Kimmy Sue" <ithink…@kimmy.com> > wrote: > |Hi ladies….I’m new to this PCOS stuff and have a question. I was diagnosed > |this past May and have been doing quite a bit of reading on PCOS. I read > |somewhere that if you have PCOS there is a 50% chance that your sister also > |has it…is this true? I suggested to my sister that she ask her gyn if he > |thought it was a concern when she went to her 6wk postpartum check up (she > |just had a beautiful baby girl) since my symptoms became worse after I gave > |birth to my son. I figured it couldn’t hurt, especially since she had a > |miscarriage before her baby was born and had quite a bit of trouble getting > |pg in the first place. This is the email she sent to me with his > |response…. > Both of my sisters have PCOS and my aunts (on my fathers side) all > have it so I’m guessing that it can be hereditary. For me, the signs > didn’t come out until after the birth of my 2nd child. And I did have > the classic symptoms – weight, insulin resistance, hormone imbalance > etc. > | > |"My appointment went fine. I told Dr. De Greef about the PCOS and he said > |that the pill would pretty much keep me from getting it. He said to keep an > |eye on my blood sugar levels though and watch my weight." > | > |This isn’t correct is it? From what I understand the pill just pretty much > |masks the symptoms of PCOS. As far as I know she doesn’t have any of the > |obvious symptoms, but she has been on the pill since she was around 16yrs > |old…she is now 29. I would like to convince her to get a second opinion. I > |don’t want her to find out the hard way like I did that she has this when > |she is trying for her second child. > I thought the pill masked the symptoms of PCOS as well. I wouldn’t > know for myself, since I think I’ve only taken it twice for short > durations and it made me very ill. Now, due to other medical issues, > I can’t take it at all!! > – Kerry
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Unfortunately my sister is in a different state than I am so she can’t see my doc. I was hoping her gyn was informed about PCOS but apparently is not…I had the same doc before I moved almost 3 years ago..and wasn’t diagnosed until recently. "Jenn" <j…@jenn.net> wrote in message
news:k8CW8.352669$_j6.16710251@bin3.nnrp.aus1.giganews.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I took the pill for 10+ years. It masked my symptoms to the point that when > I stoppped having a period the doctors just said it was because I had been > on the pill to long. I am now dealing with the complications of that. I > would suggest your sister visit your doc. > "Kimmy Sue" <ithink…@kimmy.com> wrote in message > news:3d2a167c_1@news.provide.net… > > Hi ladies….I’m new to this PCOS stuff and have a question. I was > diagnosed > > this past May and have been doing quite a bit of reading on PCOS. I read > > somewhere that if you have PCOS there is a 50% chance that your sister > also > > has it…is this true? I suggested to my sister that she ask her gyn if he > > thought it was a concern when she went to her 6wk postpartum check up (she > > just had a beautiful baby girl) since my symptoms became worse after I > gave > > birth to my son. I figured it couldn’t hurt, especially since she had a > > miscarriage before her baby was born and had quite a bit of trouble > getting > > pg in the first place. This is the email she sent to me with his > > response…. > > "My appointment went fine. I told Dr. De Greef about the PCOS and he said > > that the pill would pretty much keep me from getting it. He said to keep > an > > eye on my blood sugar levels though and watch my weight." > > This isn’t correct is it? From what I understand the pill just pretty much > > masks the symptoms of PCOS. As far as I know she doesn’t have any of the > > obvious symptoms, but she has been on the pill since she was around 16yrs > > old…she is now 29. I would like to convince her to get a second opinion. > I > > don’t want her to find out the hard way like I did that she has this when > > she is trying for her second child. > > If anyone could help me I’d appreciate it alot!! > > Kim
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