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How many of you ladies have excess DHEAS as opposed to excess testosterone? Is there a difference in the way the different androgens seem to affect one? Wondering just how weird I am…. Take care, Carmen
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Carmen <CHTH…@spamanddie.prodigy.net> wrote in message
news:9362em$3nhq$1@newssvr05-en0.news.prodigy.com… > How many of you ladies have excess DHEAS as opposed to excess testosterone? > Is there a difference in the way the different androgens seem to affect one? > Wondering just how weird I am….
I have both elevated DHEA-S and testosterone. I read one study a few months back that suggested that women with high DHEA-S did not notice a lightening of unwanted hair growth when treated with metformin. On the other hand, metformin has been documented as an agent that will reduce DHEA-S levels. Elevated DHEA-S in PCOS is common. Beth
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Thank you Beth. I only seemed to be hearing about testosterone, and it’s effects. Hair I can pluck or shave (facial is very light, and I’m a very fair complected blonde too so it isn’t very noticeable), but I would like my head hair to stop it’s mutiny and desertion. Overall I’m fairly lucky, because fertility isn’t an issue for me (my husband and I have an 11 year old daughter) and I found low carb two years ago and got my weight under control. I’ve started some chromium along with all the other supps I take, and anything that helps with insulin resistance can only help the PCOS. I hope. Take care, Carmen "Beth" <mickb…@chibardun.net> wrote in message
news:yBx56.649$o5.17234@reggie.win.bright.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Carmen <CHTH…@spamanddie.prodigy.net> wrote in message > news:9362em$3nhq$1@newssvr05-en0.news.prodigy.com… > > How many of you ladies have excess DHEAS as opposed to excess > testosterone? > > Is there a difference in the way the different androgens seem to affect > one? > > Wondering just how weird I am…. > I have both elevated DHEA-S and testosterone. I read one study a few months > back that suggested that women with high DHEA-S did not notice a lightening > of unwanted hair growth when treated with metformin. On the other hand, > metformin has been documented as an agent that will reduce DHEA-S levels. > Elevated DHEA-S in PCOS is common. > Beth
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I had slightly high dhea-s at 405.I didn’t have high testosterone.I always wondered why this one is high.I think it comes from the adrenals and I wondered if those of us who have the dhea-s are different somehow.Robin In article <9362em$3nh…@newssvr05-en0.news.prodigy.com>, "Carmen" <CHTH…@spamanddie.prodigy.net> wrote: > How many of you ladies have excess DHEAS as opposed to excess testosterone? > Is there a difference in the way the different androgens seem to affect one? > Wondering just how weird I am…. > Take care, > Carmen
– Robin ttc#1-3yrs.on 3rd Dr.,now back with second dr.,pco since puberty on 2000mg., Metformin,B6,B-12,Vit.C,baby asparin,off coffee,off St.John’s Wort charting temps and mucous,did iui last cycle(dh low count,motility)back on coffee and St.John’s Wort for now Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
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My DHEAS and free testosterone are "normal" (albeit on the high side). I’m only borderline IR, too. Whatever the "normal range", mine are high enough to cause (me) major hirsuitism problems and 100% anovulation/amenorrhea. Blech.
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In article <20010109230316.24365.00000…@ng-fp1.aol.com>, edek439…@aol.comnospam (Kay) wrote: > My DHEAS and free testosterone are "normal" (albeit on the high side). I’m > only borderline IR, too. > Whatever the "normal range", mine are high enough to cause (me) major > hirsuitism problems and 100% anovulation/amenorrhea. Blech.
from what my doc told me, my free testosterone is twice normal but everything else was fine. has anyone heard of anything natural that would have the same effect on testosterone as taking spiro? i’d be game for dropping spiro in favor of a herb or vitamn that would do the same. Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
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<<has anyone heard of anything natural that would have the same effect on testosterone as taking spiro?>> Maybe saw palmetto. I’d do a bit of research on it before actually trying it, but you could check that one out.
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Hello ladies. Some of you might remember me from my posts about the experimental IVF study I participated in. Well…I’m at it again. I have the opportunity to participate in another study, and I’m not sure if I want to or not. Of course I will make my own decision, but I’d really like to know your opinions. The study is an INS-1/fertility study for PCOS women. I am not very concerned that the drug is not yet approved. Here are my concerns: 1. The study involves taking Clomid in addition to INS-1. I did not respond to Clomid at all, and had almost every side effect in the book, including a headache that lasted over a week, extreme (and I mean extreme) moodiness, and hot flashed that lasted the whole month I took Clomid. I’ve done three unsuccessful rounds, and reacted the same way all three times. I was on Metformin at the time, and it componded my misery, as I didn’t respond to the Met either, but had all of the lovely side-effects of Met as well. 2. To participate, I will have 8 Dr. appointments over a 5-6 month period. I will be driving around 2 1/2 hours to the doctor’s office. There is no guarantee whether I will receive INS-1 or a placebo. The office doesn’t know. (Of course there’s a way to find out if anything goes wrong.) Is it worth the trips when I might not be taking the study drug? 3. Best case scenario – I get INS-1, have no side-effects to the Clomid and I ovulate….My husband and I MUST use barrier contraception. Do you think this will be a difficult thing mentally…knowing the combination is working, but not being permitted to TTC. However, if one does happen to conceive, participant will stop taking drug (or placebo), be monitored through the pregnancy, and after birth, the baby monitored for a certain amount of time. I have no fear of taking INS-1, and I do want to try to help the PCOS community. Your opinions and thoughts? Thanks, Wendy. Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.
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I would probably do it and hope I got the drug.Since you didn’t respond to anyting else and ins won’t be available for awhile.Maybe you’ll respond better to the clomid with the ins-1.I would probably not use a barrier method and try to get preg.on it.ha ha.Robin In article <90rqg6$c7…@nnrp1.deja.com>, – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text - ownedby…@my-deja.com wrote: > Hello ladies. > Some of you might remember me from my posts about the experimental IVF > study I participated in. Well…I’m at it again. I have the > opportunity to participate in another study, and I’m not sure if I want > to or not. Of course I will make my own decision, but I’d really like > to know your opinions. > The study is an INS-1/fertility study for PCOS women. I am not very > concerned that the drug is not yet approved. Here are my concerns: > 1. The study involves taking Clomid in addition to INS-1. I did not > respond to Clomid at all, and had almost every side effect in the book, > including a headache that lasted over a week, extreme (and I mean > extreme) moodiness, and hot flashed that lasted the whole month I took > Clomid. I’ve done three unsuccessful rounds, and reacted the same way > all three times. I was on Metformin at the time, and it componded my > misery, as I didn’t respond to the Met either, but had all of the > lovely side-effects of Met as well. > 2. To participate, I will have 8 Dr. appointments over a 5-6 month > period. I will be driving around 2 1/2 hours to the doctor’s office. > There is no guarantee whether I will receive INS-1 or a placebo. The > office doesn’t know. (Of course there’s a way to find out if anything > goes wrong.) Is it worth the trips when I might not be taking the > study drug? > 3. Best case scenario – I get INS-1, have no side-effects to the > Clomid and I ovulate….My husband and I MUST use barrier > contraception. Do you think this will be a difficult thing > mentally…knowing the combination is working, but not being permitted > to TTC. However, if one does happen to conceive, participant will stop > taking drug (or placebo), be monitored through the pregnancy, and after > birth, the baby monitored for a certain amount of time. > I have no fear of taking INS-1, and I do want to try to help the PCOS > community. > Your opinions and thoughts? > Thanks, > Wendy. > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > Before you buy.
– Robin ttc#1-3yrs.on 3rd Dr.,now back with second dr.,pco since puberty on 2000mg., Metformin,B6,baby asparin,evening primrose,,soy lecithin,off coffee,off St.John’s Wort charting temps and mucous,did iui last cycle(dh low count,motility) Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.
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If it were me? Yes I would do it… I hope you find your answer. 
Tracy – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -ownedby…@my-deja.com wrote: > Hello ladies. > Some of you might remember me from my posts about the experimental IVF > study I participated in. Well…I’m at it again. I have the > opportunity to participate in another study, and I’m not sure if I want > to or not. Of course I will make my own decision, but I’d really like > to know your opinions. > The study is an INS-1/fertility study for PCOS women. I am not very > concerned that the drug is not yet approved. Here are my concerns: > 1. The study involves taking Clomid in addition to INS-1. I did not > respond to Clomid at all, and had almost every side effect in the book, > including a headache that lasted over a week, extreme (and I mean > extreme) moodiness, and hot flashed that lasted the whole month I took > Clomid. I’ve done three unsuccessful rounds, and reacted the same way > all three times. I was on Metformin at the time, and it componded my > misery, as I didn’t respond to the Met either, but had all of the > lovely side-effects of Met as well. > 2. To participate, I will have 8 Dr. appointments over a 5-6 month > period. I will be driving around 2 1/2 hours to the doctor’s office. > There is no guarantee whether I will receive INS-1 or a placebo. The > office doesn’t know. (Of course there’s a way to find out if anything > goes wrong.) Is it worth the trips when I might not be taking the > study drug? > 3. Best case scenario – I get INS-1, have no side-effects to the > Clomid and I ovulate….My husband and I MUST use barrier > contraception. Do you think this will be a difficult thing > mentally…knowing the combination is working, but not being permitted > to TTC. However, if one does happen to conceive, participant will stop > taking drug (or placebo), be monitored through the pregnancy, and after > birth, the baby monitored for a certain amount of time. > I have no fear of taking INS-1, and I do want to try to help the PCOS > community. > Your opinions and thoughts? > Thanks, > Wendy. > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > Before you buy.
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I don’t want to be a wet blanket, but given that you have trouble with Clomid, it’s a looong drive, and you have a 50/50 chance of placebo… I myself wouldn’t do it. Even if the meds work, you won’t be ‘allowed’ to try to conceive! It’s very good of you to want to be of help in the research, and if you truly want to, go ahead. But if it were me, I’d probably wait and hope to get the drug after approval if it works. Unless they’re compensating you hugely for your trouble, it’s a big sacrifice of time/trouble/side effects/etc that you’d be making for little direct benefit to you. Trasea1 (tras…@hotmail.com) wrote:
: If it were me? Yes I would do it… I hope you find your answer. : Tracy : ownedby…@my-deja.com wrote:
: > Hello ladies. : > : > Some of you might remember me from my posts about the experimental IVF : > study I participated in. Well…I’m at it again. I have the : > opportunity to participate in another study, and I’m not sure if I want : > to or not. Of course I will make my own decision, but I’d really like : > to know your opinions. : > : > The study is an INS-1/fertility study for PCOS women. I am not very : > concerned that the drug is not yet approved. Here are my concerns: : > : > 1. The study involves taking Clomid in addition to INS-1. I did not : > respond to Clomid at all, and had almost every side effect in the book, : > including a headache that lasted over a week, extreme (and I mean : > extreme) moodiness, and hot flashed that lasted the whole month I took : > Clomid. I’ve done three unsuccessful rounds, and reacted the same way : > all three times. I was on Metformin at the time, and it componded my : > misery, as I didn’t respond to the Met either, but had all of the : > lovely side-effects of Met as well. : > : > 2. To participate, I will have 8 Dr. appointments over a 5-6 month : > period. I will be driving around 2 1/2 hours to the doctor’s office. : > There is no guarantee whether I will receive INS-1 or a placebo. The : > office doesn’t know. (Of course there’s a way to find out if anything : > goes wrong.) Is it worth the trips when I might not be taking the : > study drug? : > : > 3. Best case scenario – I get INS-1, have no side-effects to the : > Clomid and I ovulate….My husband and I MUST use barrier : > contraception. Do you think this will be a difficult thing : > mentally…knowing the combination is working, but not being permitted : > to TTC. However, if one does happen to conceive, participant will stop : > taking drug (or placebo), be monitored through the pregnancy, and after : > birth, the baby monitored for a certain amount of time. : > : > I have no fear of taking INS-1, and I do want to try to help the PCOS : > community. : > : > Your opinions and thoughts? : > : > Thanks, : > Wendy. : > : > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ : > Before you buy.
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What kind of doc are you seeing? Are you seeing a Reproductive Endocrinologist (RE) or an Ob/Gyn? I would be kind of weary for your doc not giving you any info what so ever. The provera as I understand it (I have been on it 5 times this year) is not a fertility drug it is given to give you a period (AF=Aunt Flo), at least that I why I have been put on it. Please ladies if I am wrong or if there are other reasons to give this to people let me know. The doc should be giving you approx ten tablets per cycle IF you do not start AF on your own. Provera is to bring it on. I would definatly try to find a doc that knows something about PCOS as it is a very complex syndrom. Also I did alot of research on my own since not alot of docs know correct testing and treatments, that way I knew what exactly is going on in my body. I started at Yahoo and pulled up PCOS and there are plenty of places to start reading and each site has numerous links (usually). From what I heard that if you do get PG and are taking Provera that this can cause you to m/c (please correct me if I am wrong ladies). But doc gives me a PG test anyway each and every time he gives me the Prescription, if your doc doesn’t do this he should ( I think anyway, better to know for sure). I hope I helped in any way. First thing to do is educate yourself on PCOS as much as you can. That is a must..I look forward to hearing from you in future posts. Tracy – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Whole Lotta Love wrote: > I am on provera & would like to know if I stand a chance of getting pregnant. I > am taking no other meds. If I get preg, how will I know while I am on provera? > Will the provera cause me to lose the baby unknowingly? I am very very new at > this & have been given (NO) info whatsoever on what to exspect having PCO. I > have asked but to no avail. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks > Jinny.
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I am on provera & would like to know if I stand a chance of getting pregnant. I am taking no other meds. If I get preg, how will I know while I am on provera? Will the provera cause me to lose the baby unknowingly? I am very very new at this & have been given (NO) info whatsoever on what to exspect having PCO. I have asked but to no avail. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Jinny.
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My name is Heidi and my husband and I found out about a year ago that I have POCS. We have been trying for a little one for a year and a half now…. I just wanted to interduce my self. An ask how do you handle it? Thank you Heidi
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Hello Heidi! My name is Diana, I was diagnosed with pcos about 4 years ago and never really gave it much thought until now. My sumptoms have gotten worse,mostly weight gain. I am not in the process of trying to get pregnant, so I do not know much about fertility drugs. I like you just wanted to introduce myself. Please keep me updated on your status!! Thank You!
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Question: What are the ranges of your BBTs? I am worried mine are too low. I have been charting for 4+ months. I am taking Metformin and Clomid. I have still not ovulated. My temps range from 96.3 to 97.2. Occasionally I get a temp as high as 97.4, but I very rarely go any higher. I mostly hover around 96.8 thru 97.2. Looking at sample charts in the book Taking Charge of your Fertility and charts on the net, they all begin at 97.0 to 98.0 and higher. Even in the middle of the day, when I am feeling great, my normal body temp is much lower than 98.6, usually 97.5 to 98.5. I am wondering if PCOSers just have lower temps, or should I be concerned this is something else and consult my doctor? I have read that low temps can mean hypothyroidism. Can anyone share their range of temps so I can get an idea if this is just part of PCOS? Thx, Liz TTC since Jan 2000 1500 Met 150 Clomid, days 5-9
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Liz, My temps range from 96.9-98.0 or thereabouts. Before the met really started working (and it took several months), I was pretty consistently under 97.0 all the time. I’ve been told that this can indicate an underactive thyroid, but my thyroid tests have always been well within the normal range. Some people just normally have a lower body temp than others – it may be that you are one of those people. Give it a few more months and see what happens – your temperature pattern (with the thermal shift that indicates ovulation) is far more important than the temperature range. Hope this helps, Kris estm <e…@teleport.com> wrote in message
news:w7xY4.19645$RO1.919712@nntp3.onemain.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Question: What are the ranges of your BBTs? I am worried mine are too low. > I have been charting for 4+ months. I am taking Metformin and Clomid. I > have still not ovulated. My temps range from 96.3 to 97.2. Occasionally I > get a temp as high as 97.4, but I very rarely go any higher. I mostly hover > around 96.8 thru 97.2. Looking at sample charts in the book Taking Charge > of your Fertility and charts on the net, they all begin at 97.0 to 98.0 and > higher. Even in the middle of the day, when I am feeling great, my normal > body temp is much lower than 98.6, usually 97.5 to 98.5. > I am wondering if PCOSers just have lower temps, or should I be concerned > this is something else and consult my doctor? I have read that low temps > can mean hypothyroidism. Can anyone share their range of temps so I can get > an idea if this is just part of PCOS? > Thx, Liz > TTC since Jan 2000 > 1500 Met > 150 Clomid, days 5-9
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In article <w7xY4.19645$RO1.919…@nntp3.onemain.com>, "estm" <e…@teleport.com> wrote: > Question: What are the ranges of your BBTs? I am worried mine are too low. > I have been charting for 4+ months. I am taking Metformin and Clomid. I > have still not ovulated. My temps range from 96.3 to 97.2.
<snip> Hi Liz, Your temps do seem low. Have you had your thyroid function evaluated recently? Low basal temps may indicate a problem there, and hypothyroidism does contribute to problems conceiving. Other signs of a sluggish thyroid are dry skin, coarse hair, thick, puffy facial features and water retention, constipation, blue moods and depression, and other indicators of a slowed metabolism. FYI, my basal temps usually bottom out at 97.3 and top out at 98.6, with 97.8 being my coverline. Hope you ovulate soon. Sounds like you’re doing a great job of detective work. Hang in there! Beth — Beth’s PCO Page You Are Not Alone http://www.win.bright.net/~mickbeth/pco.htm Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.
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Liz, my temps were consistently below 97.2 also when I first started charting. I did have my thyroid checked, and it was OK. After a few months my temps started creeping up to between 96.8 and 97.5 pre-o. Don’t worry too much about it if your thyroid is alright. Sherra
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My temps are always low at 97.6 and go up to 98.6 after ovulating.My thyroaid is fine too.I am a cold natured person too.Robin In article <DJXY4.11491$t63.45…@typhoon.kc.rr.com>, "Sherra Scott" <she…@kc.rr.com> wrote: > Liz, my temps were consistently below 97.2 also when I first started > charting. I did have my thyroid checked, and it was OK. After a few months > my temps started creeping up to between 96.8 and 97.5 pre-o. Don’t worry > too much about it if your thyroid is alright. > Sherra
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I am wondering what sort of results/changes long-term Metformin users have experienced. I was on it briefly last spring for 2-1/2 months and didn’t see any positive (no weight change, resume of period, etc.) or negative changes (did not really get sick or bothered by the drug). Have you lost weight, had less hair, gotten regular periods back, etc? I am probably starting the Met/Clomid combo in March and am hoping a long-term use will see some results. I am thinking I gave up on Met too soon, that 2-1/2 months was to short a time to see significant results. Just curious…Thx, Elizabeth
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> I am wondering what sort of results/changes long-term Metformin users have > experienced. I was on it briefly last spring for 2-1/2 months and didn’t > see any positive (no weight change, resume of period, etc.) or negative > changes (did not really get sick or bothered by the drug). Have you lost > weight, had less hair, gotten regular periods back, etc?
I ovulated after 6 weeks on metformin, then got pregnant on my first try, after 3.5 months. I had one normal period before I got pregnant. My cholesterol and other lipids dropped dramatically, and are now normal. I lost 20 pounds before I got pregnant. All in all, I would say metformin has been very helpful to me. I’ve been on it for about 6 months now. I would say that 2.5 months wasn’t really long enough for you to evaluate it, especially if you weren’t taking a high dose (2000mg/day or more). Some women really don’t seem to respond to metformin, but I’d give it another shot, if I were you. Good luck! Reb TTC 10 yrs+ PCOS diagnosed 7/99 Started metformin 8/99 – 2500mg/day Fertility restored 9/99 Normal labs 10/99 Conceived first baby 11/99 EDD 8/11/00
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I’ve been on met 1500 mg/day for three and a half months (and 1000 mg/day for one month before that). My testosterone levels are nearing normal and I’ve had two normal-length cycles (around 32 days) with ovulations. I used to have lots of random chin hairs but haven’t had to pluck one since around Christmas, if memory serves. I haven’t been able to lose any weight, but I think that’s more user error than anything else. I’ve been bucking for a promotion at work and diet and exercise have not been tops on my priority list. And, regardless of what seems to happen to some, it’s not a given that met will cause you to lose weight without diet and exercise added in. Bummer, but true. (I would hypothesize that those who lose weight on met alone are the most severely insulin resistant and possibly have more weight to lose to start with, but I have nothing other than anecdotal evidence on which to base that theory.) I would say that 2 1/2 months probably were not long enough for you to assume that you would see no results. Most people seem to say you should try it for at least 6 months. Also, if you had no side effects at all, I’m wondering how high of a dose you were on. 1500 – 2500 mg/day seems to be the range where people start to see results. Best of luck to you whatever you decide to do! Kris estm <e…@teleport.com> wrote in message
news:b6ip4.6238$3W4.44619@news1.teleport.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I am wondering what sort of results/changes long-term Metformin users have > experienced. I was on it briefly last spring for 2-1/2 months and didn’t > see any positive (no weight change, resume of period, etc.) or negative > changes (did not really get sick or bothered by the drug). Have you lost > weight, had less hair, gotten regular periods back, etc? I am probably > starting the Met/Clomid combo in March and am hoping a long-term use will > see some results. I am thinking I gave up on Met too soon, that 2-1/2 months > was to short a time to see significant results. > Just curious…Thx, Elizabeth
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> I am thinking I gave up on Met too soon, that 2-1/2 months >was to short a time to see significant results.
I think that is too short a time. I have been on it since May. Recently I have been "regular". It takes a little time for most Cysters. Some need to be on it a year. Some need the maximum dose. In any case, after 2 1/2 months, you are just getting started in your therapy. ^—^ Cathy { ‘ . ‘ } ` Those who play with cats must expect to be scratched. 4Cysters: http://pages.ivillage.com/bh/cystercat Other pages: http://peaceonearth.faithweb.com http://littlec.faithweb.com http://www.i-love-cats.com/meow/cat
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I’ve been on it about a year. The only negatives are that I’ve only lost about 27 to 30 pounds, hirsuitism is still bad. The rest though is peachy. Victoria It took 25 days for me to see the good things, but I’ve heard up to 6 months or so depending on the dosage. You may also be one of the people who don’t respond to metformin. If so, how about actos or avandia? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -estm wrote: > I am wondering what sort of results/changes long-term Metformin users have > experienced. I was on it briefly last spring for 2-1/2 months and didn’t > see any positive (no weight change, resume of period, etc.) or negative > changes (did not really get sick or bothered by the drug). Have you lost > weight, had less hair, gotten regular periods back, etc? I am probably > starting the Met/Clomid combo in March and am hoping a long-term use will > see some results. I am thinking I gave up on Met too soon, that 2-1/2 months > was to short a time to see significant results. > Just curious…Thx, Elizabeth
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Hi, I have only been on Met since January 13th, I am up to 2500mgs a day, I still have had no severe side effects yet. I have a bit of nausea before I go to bed and I wake up with loose bowels but not diahrea. I must be on of the lucky ones. I have not had any sign of a cycle or anything but I just went off of my bcp’s on Monday so I am thinking it will take it a while. All I have is time anyway. God Bless, TracyP Cathy the Cat Loving Cyster wrote: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> > I am thinking I gave up on Met too soon, that 2-1/2 months > >was to short a time to see significant results. > I think that is too short a time. I have been on it since May. Recently I > have been "regular". It takes a little time for most Cysters. Some need to be > on it a year. Some need the maximum dose. In any case, after 2 1/2 months, > you are just getting started in your therapy. > ^—^ Cathy > { ‘ . ‘ } > ` Those who play with cats must expect to be scratched. > 4Cysters: http://pages.ivillage.com/bh/cystercat > Other pages: > http://peaceonearth.faithweb.com > http://littlec.faithweb.com > http://www.i-love-cats.com/meow/cat
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I thought Dr. Sills was in Atlanta. If it’s the same Dr. Scott Sills who did his fellowship at Cornell in NYC and is affiliated with Atlanta Reproductive Associates, he definitely knows his PCOS. He moderates the PCOS board on INCIID. And he is a kind and caring doctor. Sam Thatcher may be located in Nashville. If so, he also knows his PCOS.
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It is the same Dr. Scott Sills. I would love to see him because I’ve heard such wonderful things about him, but he is in an office with Dr. Vasquez, who I wouldn’t trust with my goldfish (if I had one). Vasquez is very IVF happy! On your first visit to his clinic, he starts you on the "Road to IVF." I’m not ready for IVF at this point. I’m kind of stuck between a rock and a hard place. Kelly "ELLENNSAM" <ellenn…@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20000210171855.23587.00002095@ng-fu1.aol.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I thought Dr. Sills was in Atlanta. If it’s the same Dr. Scott Sills who did > his fellowship at Cornell in NYC and is affiliated with Atlanta Reproductive > Associates, he definitely knows his PCOS. He moderates the PCOS board on > INCIID. And he is a kind and caring doctor. Sam Thatcher may be located in > Nashville. If so, he also knows his PCOS.
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Anyone in the middle Tennessee area know anything about either Dr. Robert Satterfield or Dr. Scott Sills? The only other RE on my insurance is Jaime Vasquez and I will not go back there! Thanks in advance for the help, Kelly
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Kelly, I am so psyched that there is someone out there w/PCOS besides me in Nashville! ( I thought I was the only one!) I don’t know anything about Satterfield or Sills, but will check around with some friends. I have heard VERY bad things about Vasquez, so it’s funny that you mentioned that. I am seeing Dr. George Hill, an RE at the Nashville Fertility Center @ Centennial Med. Center. I’ve been seeing him since Oct. and his office staff has been wonderful. But I know this doesn’t help if he is not on your ins. E-mail me if you’d likeat dz…@bellsouth.net. It would be great to correspond w/someone in my area! I live in Nolensville, and work in Nashville. Marissa – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Chris wrote: > Anyone in the middle Tennessee area know anything about either Dr. Robert > Satterfield or Dr. Scott Sills? The only other RE on my insurance is Jaime > Vasquez and I will not go back there! > Thanks in advance for the help, > Kelly
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Hi all, Just wanted to share my good news – after three months on metformin (1500 mg/day) my testosterone level is down to 34! (It was 77 before met.) I ovulated this last cycle and feel well on my way to being "normal." I haven’t seen a chin hair in quite some time, either. Of course, this now means that if I don’t lose some weight I have no one and nothing to blame but myself. Thanks for listening! Kris — "Those cats are not an acceptable substitute for grandchildren" – my mom
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YEA Kris. I am soooo glad that you are seeing improvement. HURRAY! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Hi all, >Just wanted to share my good news – after three months on metformin (1500 >mg/day) my testosterone level is down to 34! (It was 77 before met.) I >ovulated this last cycle and feel well on my way to being "normal." I >haven’t seen a chin hair in quite some time, either. >Of course, this now means that if I don’t lose some weight I have no one and >nothing to blame but myself. >Thanks for listening! >Kris >– >"Those cats are not an acceptable substitute for grandchildren" – my mom
^—^ Cathy { ‘ . ‘ } ` "Those who play with cats must expect to be scratched." Hope for Cysters: http://pages.ivillage.com/bh/cystercat My web page: http://peaceonearth.faithweb.com Visit Little C: http://littlec.faithweb.com
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Congratulations, Kris! Thanks for posting your good news. It’s very encouraging to all the women who are struggling through those first miserable weeks on met, wondering if it’s really going to be "worth it." You’re proof that it is! Reb TTC 10 yrs+ PCOS diagnosed 7/99 Started metformin 8/99 – 2500mg/day Fertility restored 9/99 Normal labs 10/99 Conceived first baby 11/99 EDD 8/11/00
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Hey everyone, my mom went to the store and saw an article about PCOS in Women’s day and grabbed it for me. I read it twice. I have to say, I think they did a great job. They talk about IR, fertility problems, that it’s not just a fertility problem. That it’s also hormonal and such things. It seems they talked to a lot of different doctors about it too. I think it’s a great article and everyone should check it out. I think it’s going to do a lot of good. Hopefully help a lot more people out. Grace
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>Hey everyone, my mom went to the store and saw an article about PCOS in >Women’s day and grabbed it for me. I read it twice. I have to say, I think >they did a great job.
Hey, I was interviewed for that article, I was wondering if my story made it to press. My name is Tracy I am the very large 29 year old. That issue is not out in my area yet, and I am curious……….. Tracy
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>>Hey everyone, my mom went to the store and saw an article about PCOS in >>Women’s day and grabbed it for me. I read it twice. I have to say, I think >>they did a great job. >Hey, I was interviewed for that article, I was wondering if my story made it >to >press. My name is Tracy I am the very large 29 year old. That issue is not >out in my area yet, and I am curious……….. >Tracy
Good for you Tracy. Glad to know that Women’s Day did an article. I subscribe to them but it seems like I get the issues AFTER they hit the stands. I like magazine articles–they often go more in depth than TV shows. The GMA segment was so vague. ^—^ Cathy { ‘ . ‘ } ` "Those who play with cats must expect to be scratched." Hope for Cysters: http://pages.ivillage.com/bh/cystercat My web page: http://peaceonearth.faithweb.com Visit Little C: http://littlec.faithweb.com
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More2Luuuv wrote: > >Hey everyone, my mom went to the store and saw an article about PCOS in > >Women’s day and grabbed it for me. I read it twice. I have to say, I think > >they did a great job. > Hey, I was interviewed for that article, I was wondering if my story made it to > press. My name is Tracy I am the very large 29 year old. That issue is not > out in my area yet, and I am curious……….. > Tracy
Hi Tracy- I was checking yesterday while waiting in line at Food Lion and the issue did not have the article in it. I think the date was something like Feb. 10th. Could you tell me which issue its supposed to be in? I knew I should have written it down before when you first posted, but, as usual, I forgot! Thanks- Barbara
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>Hi Tracy- > I was checking yesterday while waiting in line at Food Lion and the >issue did not have the article in it. I think the date was something >like Feb. 10th. Could you tell me which issue its supposed to be in?
I was told that it was originally scheduled for March. But it may have been bumped up to Feb. (Maybe the March issue comes out Feb, 11?) I was supposed to get a copy when the subscriptions were mailed, and my MIL subscribes and has not recieved hers yet. At any rate, it is coming up soon Tracy
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It is the March 7, 2000 Woman’s Day issue. I got it in the mail today. Leslie – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> That issue is not > > out in my area yet, and I am curious……….. > > Tracy > Hi Tracy- > I was checking yesterday while waiting in line at Food Lion and the > issue did not have the article in it. I think the date was something > like Feb. 10th. Could you tell me which issue its supposed to be in? I > knew I should have written it down before when you first posted, but, as > usual, I forgot! > Thanks- > Barbara
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I got to see it this afternoon, my MIL is a subscriber and it arrived today. I am very pleased with the article and I think it will be a major step in educating the public about PCOS and why it is important that it be diagnosoed and treated. Good Job Kerri! Good Job Woman’s Day! Tracy
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Brian & Leslie Fitzgerald wrote: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> It is the March 7, 2000 Woman’s Day issue. I got it in the mail today. > Leslie > > That issue is not > > > out in my area yet, and I am curious……….. > > > Tracy > > Hi Tracy- > > I was checking yesterday while waiting in line at Food Lion and the > > issue did not have the article in it. I think the date was something > > like Feb. 10th. Could you tell me which issue its supposed to be in? I > > knew I should have written it down before when you first posted, but, as > > usual, I forgot! > > Thanks- > > Barbara
Thanks, Leslie! Barbara
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I was told it was the March issue, which could be on some stands as early as Feb. 10. I was a bit surprised that some people have posted here and on various PCOS lists that they’ve seen it already! beth – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I was told that it was originally scheduled for March. But it may have been > bumped up to Feb. (Maybe the March issue comes out Feb, 11?) I was supposed to > get a copy when the subscriptions were mailed, and my MIL subscribes and has > not recieved hers yet. > At any rate, it is coming up soon > Tracy
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Unbelievable…..enough said. Laurie
I came across this article today and my mouth dropped. How could this happen, it’s not fair at all. This 19 year old mother now has 6 children all under the age of 2. I can’t even defy the odds and have one!! Woman Gives Birth to 2nd Set of Triplets WASHINGTON (Reuters) – A 19-year-old Baltimore woman defied odds of "one in many millions" when she gave birth on Tuesday to her second set of healthy triplets in 20 months, hospital officials said. Crystal Cornick and her fiance, Richard Williams, 22, found out in September that she was carrying their second set of triplets, the officials said, but the couple was still "dumbfounded" that it could have happened at all. The incidence of multiple births has increased dramatically in the United States given increasing use of fertility drugs. But Cornick was not taking any such medication. Dr. Ira Gewolb, director of neonatology at University of Maryland Hospital for Children, said the odds of Cornick having a second set of triplets were pretty high — possibly ranging as high as one in 10 million. "It’s rare. It’s pretty rare. The odds are one in many millions at least, possibly one in 10 million," Gewolb said. "Certainly winning the lottery is more likely, certainly getting hit by lightning is a lot more likely." Gewolb said the mother still seemed a little "shell-shocked," but he was impressed with her sense of realism about her newly expanded family. Ariel, Tyree and Tyler were delivered naturally — without a Caesarean section — at 35 weeks on Tuesday and are currently in the intensive care unit, where they are doing very well, said hospital spokesman Tim Parsons. Dr. Gewolb said the babies ranged in weight from 3 pounds 14 oz (1750 grams) to 5 pounds (2290 grams). "They’ll be in the unit one or two weeks — just for safety’s sake," Gewolb said. "Their prognosis is excellent." Hospital spokesman Ellen Beth-Levitt said the birth of a second set of triplets would necessarily pose great challenges for the young Baltimore family. "It’s very sobering for them. As happy as they are, the reality is there that they now have six children," she said. "My impression was that they had a lot of family support. They’re very excited about this, but they’re completely surprised and dumbfounded that this could happen," Parsons added. The young parents were working with their local church and the hospital’s social work office, but officials said Cornick and Williams would be grateful for any donations from the community. Cornick was studying finance at Goucher College, and planned to return to her studies in September. Williams is a truck driver and a graduate of Baltimore City Community College, hospital officials said. The couple’s first set of triplets, two girls and one boy, are now about 20 months old.
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Only 19 and I read that the father is not her husband but her fiance. How many times do they need to get pregnant/How many kids do they need to have to get married? Are they afraid of commitment? Rachel <jdm
Sounds like they’re afraid of maturity. I don’t suppose there’s any chance of them being given up for adoption, either. Mary Before you buy.
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Crystal Cornick and her fiance, The young parents were working with their local church
Gee, *sounds* like they are *religious* people. Do you think now that they have six kids they might finally GET MARRIED!! It erks the hell out of me when couples say *Oh, we’re not ready for marriage. We want to make sure we’re right for each other. Yet they have no qualms about bringing children into the world who very well, (and most probably) will have to endure the break-up of their parents! ARGGGG! Fondly, Rea 6 ^i^’s Many, many IUIs w/stims Many IUIs w/o stims M/C 12-93 M/C 5-94 M/C 4-96 (twins) IVF # 1 ++beta 4-26-99 M/C 5-14-99 (twins) IVF # 2 neg. beta 1-26-00
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What is she… Super Ovulation Woman? LOL companion to the Super Semen Man. ,, ,—, (_,/ _/ _/__/ ,,/_/,,/_/,,,
LOL!! Good one Turtle. I can just picture the super hero costume! — SueB ~~ delete the word remove from address to email
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Rachel, I’m glad someone else said this. That’s exactly what I was thinking. Even if they get married, how in the world at 19 & 20 will they have the coping skills to raise 6 kids???? Angela 2 failed IVFs with genetic testing 3rd IVF beta still +++
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I know its not fair its like "hello God…I love you give me a baby" Its really unfair my 19 year old cousin just had a baby out of wedlock and it makes me sick she got Pg. Margo 28 yrs 5 years ttc adoptive mom to two beautiful girls from india
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The story literally made me sick. And I am pissed that it is getting so much media attention. WHAT kind of message is that sending to young people? No one seems to be very concerned that this couple is NOT married and are only 19 and already have 3 other kids. NO one in the media is questioning whether this couple is FIT to be parents? Well, I think they AREN’T and I am concerned for those 6 kids! 19 is so young. The parents are KIDS themselves!!!! I am disgusted! I turn on the tv this morning and there is Katie Couric doing a piece on the triplets. I immediately changed the station…. Glad I am not the only one PO’d about this. Thanks for letting me vent. I’d be venting even if I were fertile!!! Stuff like this should NOT get positive media attention….I am very concerned about the message it sends …..
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, but officials said Cornick and Williams would be grateful for any donations from the community.
This is the part that really bites my *ss. Gee, I’d also be grateful for donations from the community to help us pay for our upcoming IVF. However, if I happened to get pg with triplets, I certainly wouldn’t expect anyone else to shell out money for us. This is basically media-assisted panhandling for two children who shouldn’t even have one child, let alone six. Ack. Paula
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Oh sillybear do I know the feeling….dh and I were married 5 years before we started "trying" since we wanted to do "the right" thing and wait until we finished college and bought a house and had health insurance blah blah blah. Its os ironic that these young kids with no stability are having these litters left and right and all we want is one little life to call our own. 
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woohoo Paula!!! You said it!!!!!!! Jayne TTC 18 months male factor IF/undet. female
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And another thing. She’s 19 and already has triplets. That would have made the first set around a year old when she got pg with the second set. Any SANE, responsible woman I know would have been on every kind of birth control available! Also, b/c they aren’t married, I’d be willing to bet what little fertility I have left that medicaid (in other words, you and me) is paying for the pre-natal and delivery, etc. ARGGGGG!!!!! Fondly, Rea 6 ^i^’s Many, many IUIs w/stims Many IUIs w/o stims M/C 12-93 M/C 5-94 M/C 4-96 (twins) IVF # 1 ++beta 4-26-99 M/C 5-14-99 (twins) IVF # 2 neg. beta 1-26-00
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I also saw the couple on TV. I didn’t get the impression that they were unfit or trying to have another set of triplets. They actually seemed, like anyone who just gave birth to a second set of triplets, stunned! Is nineteen young to have a baby, yes, but should we all criticize them because this has happened, No. They did say that they were on birth control, but who’s business is it anyway. Not mine. The father and mother aren’t married, but so what… there not the first couple to have babies without being married. The father is working and the mom was in college. Give them a break. I know how frustrating it can be trying to get pregnant. Thinking how frustrating, stressful and to top it off, how our insurance companies just don’t cover our costs enough……and BAM you hear a story like this one. it doesn’t make it right to say some of the things that have been said on this thread. We all should pray and hope that they will remain healthy enough to go home and be a full family, with support from extended families and friends. That is what I think. Jane – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Just a slightly different point of view…. I saw the couple on TV and they seemed very nice. Of course, that doesn’t mean they’re mature enough to be parents, but they didn’t seem obviously unfit. And, you don’t have to be married to be good parents. It’s really not a prerequisite, IMHO. Lisa B
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I live in DC so this has been all over the news. I too was a little appalled when they said she was 19 and her partner is like 20 something. One would think that they learned what caused it the first time… What is she… Super Ovulation Woman? LOL companion to the Super Semen Man. ,, ,—, (_,/ _/ _/__/ ,,/_/,,/_/,,,
– Joy Before you buy.
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I came across this article today and my mouth dropped. How could this happen, it’s not fair at all. This 19 year old mother now has 6 children all under the age of 2. I can’t even defy the odds and have one!!
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