Just can't get back on it!!!

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No, I didn’t give up and I do not plan to give up either just like I never gave up when I quit smoking and I am now 10 years smoke-free. And that is *so* commendable.

Thank you. :-) And now after all this time you’ve added some new twists and it’s working again for you.

I am happy to say that it is. To say I’m happy to hear this is an understatement. You know, I remember reading a while back, somewhere, that one of the main characteristics found in people who lose significant amounts of weight and keep it off is that they try over and over, usually a lot of different programs. Often they’ve lost and regained, sometimes several times, before they find the right thing and something clicks for them. It doesn’t seem logical that it should be so hard, but realistically, for most of us, it is! And I think I recall you have PCOS, which adds another layer of challenge to the whole thing.

Yes I do have PCOS as well. Several family members of mine are also hypothyroid and while I have been tested and the tests have shown I do not have it I sometimes wonder if they could have missed it due to my having certain symptoms of hypothyroidism (such as feeling cold all the time). Keep up the good work, Jaime.

Thank you very much. I have several plans in place for the next few weeks that will help my weight loss and my journey to improved health along. Jaime ****** On Neanderthin and loving it!!

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – :: ::: Throw away all the high-carb food in the house, stay out of the ::: middle aisles at the store, don’t eat at restaurants, :: :: I agree with all of these, 150% ! ! ! :: :: Stocking up with foods that will automatically conserve carbs is :: critical to my success. Even if I wanted to there are a limited :: number :: of things that are really carby in the house. :: ::: get lots of exercise :: Do this if you enjoy it. At my weight and back discs exercise is :: troublesome. Maybe your back is a problem, but your weight is not a limitation, from what I know of you.

I do what exercise I enjoy. If I don’t enjoy it, it becomes a chore–something to dread or avoid. That’s key. I have little eye-hand coordination and my balance has never been great. Sports is a negative. If I enjoyed it I’ve got two friends who I know I could play tennis or racketball with regularly. Traditional exercise is just boring and gets difficult fast. Two flights of steps and I’m out of breath. When more of the weight comes off I’m hoping that will all be easier and I can try to find some kind of exercise that I can enjoy. ANd that’s the trick. Most people who exercise and keep exercising like something about what they do. If you don’t it can be a setup for failure. Right now, controlling my intake and just keeping a certain level of activity is important. Once I return to a normal workschedule I will be more active and, as always, I drop to a lower weight because of it) DiGiTAL_ViNYL (no email) 350/300/Apr-299/200 Atkins since Jan 12, 2004 OWL-60 carbs/day (CCLL=?)

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I found out the hard way that I can’t have one piece of fruit occasionally and be satisfied with it. Oranges, apples, grapefruit, and strawberries all set off cravings something fierce. I’d really like to enjoy some fruits, but I can’t right now. I’m glad you found something that works for you. Congratulations on the weight loss. Thank you. I used to get fierce cravings for many things on Atkins but now I have not had a craving since I began Neanderthin. Fortunately I *can* eat a peice of fruit or some berries a couple times a week after a full meal and be quite satisfied with that. My hunger has also gone way down to the point where I only get physically hungry a couple of times a day and I only think about eating when I feel my stomach actually growl. (or when I am shopping for food) A far cry from when I used to think about eating almost 24/7. I have also noticed my health seems to have improved in a few ways too since starting.

I am so happy for you! If you don’t mind, could you please post what you would eat on a typical day? I am interested. Also — how long have you been on and how much weight have you lose. Thank you! Jaime ****** On Neanderthin and loving it!!

– nimue "There was a time when I was young and gay — but straight." Max Bialystock Do not taunt happy fun ball. SNL

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I am so happy for you! If you don’t mind, could you please post what you would eat on a typical day?

Well let’s see….. For breakfast I ate 2 softboiled eggs. I made 4 but I was not very hungry due to having something troubling on my mind lately so I put 2 in the fridge for whenever. I also had a cup of tea with 1 tablespoon of half and half added. No sweetener. I drank a litre of water. I’m thinking about lunch now so I will make 2 hamburger patties and eat those like a sandwich with a thick tomato slice and some homemade mayonnaise in the middle. If I am still hungry after that I will have a small salad consisting of boston lettuce, romaine lettuce, baby spinach (a few leaves of each…washed and torn), a couple slices mushrooms, a few cucumber slices, the rest of the tomato, a sprinkling of raw sunflower seeds and drizzled with cold pressed olive oil. Then 1 more litre of water. For dinner I am having baked chicken thighs and steamed broccoli. A cup of sliced strawberries are for dessert drizzled with a teaspoon of raw honey. Then most likely another tea before bed. If I am quite hungry on any particular day I tend to snack on nuts (except peanuts or cashews as they are not considerred paleo) or low glycemic fruit. I also eat sardines and tuna a few times a week. Sometimes I will have a can or two just for breakfast. I am interested. Also — how long have you been on and how much weight have you lose. Thank you!

I began Atkins in December 1998 and in 10 months lost 45 pounds. I was 374 pounds when I began that. Then around Thanksgiving 2000 I fell off Atkins and was on and off for 2001, 2002 and 2003. Luckily I never regained that weight and am holding at 328. Recently I started Neanderthin and have lost 2 pant sizes (from 5x to 3x). The scale hasn’t seemed to budge but my clothes feel loser and I feel a lot better and have no cravings to throw me offtrack. I am also walking a lot better, the edema in my legs and feet has gone done significantly and my physical endurance seems to be getting better. My skin has also cleared up in a big way and I can walk at a higher speed on the treadmills at the Y then when I began. HTH Jaime ****** On Neanderthin and loving it!!

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Jaime this is so cool to read! I think I’ve been reading the ng and seen you post about your struggles and know you’ve had trouble staying with the program, as many of us have over the years. But you know what? You never gave up, did you? And that is *so* commendable. And now after all this time you’ve added some new twists and it’s working again for you. To say I’m happy to hear this is an understatement. You know, I remember reading a while back, somewhere, that one of the main characteristics found in people who lose significant amounts of weight and keep it off is that they try over and over, usually a lot of different programs. Often they’ve lost and regained, sometimes several times, before they find the right thing and something clicks for them. It doesn’t seem logical that it should be so hard, but realistically, for most of us, it is! And I think I recall you have PCOS, which adds another layer of challenge to the whole thing. Keep up the good work, Jaime. HG

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:: Throw away the junk, don’t buy more, plan your meals, fill up your :: fridge with allowable snacks and get up in the morning and fix :: yourself some eggs. Go from there. In the beginning, I made the mistake of buying the junk carb foods. It took me a time to realize, most of them are just not good to eat while low carbing. Takes willpower to throw them out, then not buy them anymore. After you do that, throw them out.. Then just buy wholesome foods, healthy wholesome snacks. Veggies, meat and cheese roll ups, tuna, boiled eggs, yogurt, etc.

IMO, throwing away all the stuff that’s been opened is a good idea, but the non-perishables would be a good idea to donate to a food bank. Lots of people in any given area simply don’t have the means to get fat. Crafting Mom — The post you just read, unless otherwise noted, is strictly my opinion and experience. Please interpret accordingly.

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That attitude is exactly why you’re fat. — You take stupid to a new level.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – tell everyone you know to call you a whiny fat loser for the rest of your life if you fall off the diet. yeah, just like a teen aged anorexic. do you buy pants two sizes too small too? sorry, but that’s really not a healthy suggestion for most folks. -kelly

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Hello Everyone, Well, my husband and I were doing just GREAT on Atkins, starting in late August ‘03. I lost 27 pounds and he lost 25. Then came…Thanksgiving. Oh well, just for one day, can’t hurt, right? Well, same old song, different pie. Since the holidays, we are having A REALLY HARD TIME getting back on Atkins! We’ll do okay for a few days, and then one or the other or both of us will fall off. My husband especially is going through a LOT of stress at work, and he says eating de-stresses, comforts, etc. You understand. Does anyone have any suggestions? The thing is, we both really WANT to get back on it. My husband is also a diabetic and his numbers were near normal on Atkins, and I stopped thinking about sugar and white flour all day. Thank you all very much for reading this post, and for anything you might want to say. princessJuly

I was having the exact same problem with Atkins for the last couple years since falling off it in a big way Thanksgiving 2000. Recently I have switched to Neanderthin and am doing really well on it. I found I missed fruit too much to live without it while being on Induction as long as I needed to be to lose weight. On Neanderthin I can be on Induction-type levels of carbs yet have a peice of fruit once in a while with no problems and it is working out great. I’m losing and went down 2 pant sizes. Jaime ****** On Neanderthin and loving it!!

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Give up. Neither one of you has what it takes to lose weight because you’re idiotic, fat, lazy, and weak. — You take stupid to a new level.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hello Everyone, Well, my husband and I were doing just GREAT on Atkins, starting in late August ‘03. I lost 27 pounds and he lost 25. Then came…Thanksgiving. Oh well, just for one day, can’t hurt, right? Well, same old song, different pie. Since the holidays, we are having A REALLY HARD TIME getting back on Atkins! We’ll do okay for a few days, and then one or the other or both of us will fall off. My husband especially is going through a LOT of stress at work, and he says eating de-stresses, comforts, etc. You understand. Does anyone have any suggestions? The thing is, we both really WANT to get back on it. My husband is also a diabetic and his numbers were near normal on Atkins, and I stopped thinking about sugar and white flour all day. Thank you all very much for reading this post, and for anything you might want to say. princessJuly

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I agree. I was like this too. Always wanting to lose weight. Sometimes making a half way effort at a diet. It wasn’t until I had to buy a size 22 bathing suit that it really hit me. I got back from the cruise with an absolute determination that this time it was coming off. It has been 6 1/2 months. I am down 48 pounds. That bathing suit hangs from my light fixture in the living room to this day. If I get an urge to eat off plan, a look at that bathing suit puts my mind back where it should be. I am not kidding myself anymore. This time it is for good.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Getting into the right frame set is the hardest part of dieting. Personally, I think you are either ready or you’re not. I thought about losing weight every day for years. Oh yea, well maybe one of these days or tomorrow, next week. Whatever got me through the day. It wasn’t until I stood in front of that huge basket filled with Easter goodies that I knew what I had to do. I had to say NO! I had to get it into my head that the only person that can help me be a better me is ME! I knew right then and there that I had to take responsibility for my own actions. No one forced me to eat things that were bad for my body. I did it willingly. The moment that I truly got that concept, I started changing the way I looked at food and myself. If you truly want something badly enough then you’ll climb just about any mountain you have to. Achieving goals along the way help you to stay focused. Low carbing is a tool to use to help you lose weight and get physically fit. It can’t do it all for you, there has to be the need within you to make the changes needed to obtain your goals. It isn’t easy, but I’ve learned new things every step of the way this past year. The most important thing that I’ve learned is that I TRULY want this for myself and I’m willing to do whatever it takes to make it happen. So you have to give up your favorite high carb foods for a while. It doesn’t mean you can’t ever have that piece of cake or ice cold beer again. It’s how you put the information you gain from being on the diet in the first place to work for you. You’ll get to where you know what you can eat that isn’t on plan, how much, etc. And you’ll find out what the consequences are and have to deal with them. I try to keep reminding myself that I didn’t get fat overnight and I won’t get thin and fit overnight. Depriving yourself isn’t going to make it easier to stick on this new way of eating. Taking the knowledge and making informed choices is the key. It takes some effort and some days where you just want to eat as many carbs as possible just because you can! If you faulter one meal or one day or one week, just start back on plan. Seems to me that it isn’t worth the effort to lose 50 pounds just to go off plan and gain it back. I’m eager to see what lies ahead of me in my weight loss adventure. And I know that I’m more informed and in touch with my body than I’ve ever been. I’m worth it and so are you. Just set your mind. You can do it if it’s truly what you want for your future. Good luck and just do it! — Kelly 270/209/Goal Weight 140 51 3/4 Total Inches Lost – Measurements updated April 21st. April Challenge Weight: 205

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I found out the hard way that I can’t have one piece of fruit occasionally and be satisfied with it. Oranges, apples, grapefruit, and strawberries all set off cravings something fierce. I’d really like to enjoy some fruits, but I can’t right now. I’m glad you found something that works for you. Congratulations on the weight loss.

I’m off induction now, but I still am finding that i’ll never be able to go up appreciably in my carb intake for extended periods of time… I bet i’ll have the occasional splurge (birthday parties, holidays, etc), but it seems that when I go over 30 to 40 grams of carbs in a day, the cravings kick in BIG time…. to the point I sometimes cave in. Clint

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Thank you. I used to get fierce cravings for many things on Atkins but now I have not had a craving since I began Neanderthin. Fortunately I *can* eat a peice of fruit or some berries a couple times a week after a full meal and be quite satisfied with that. My hunger has also gone way down to the point where I only get physically hungry a couple of times a day and I only think about eating when I feel my stomach actually growl. (or when I am shopping for food) A far cry from when I used to think about eating almost 24/7. I have also noticed my health seems to have improved in a few ways too since starting. Jaime ****** On Neanderthin and loving it!!

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I found I missed fruit too much to live without it while being on Induction as long as I needed to be to lose weight. On Neanderthin I can be on Induction-type levels of carbs yet have a peice of fruit once in a while with no problems and it is working out great. I’m losing and went down 2 pant sizes. Jaime ****** On Neanderthin and loving it!!

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:: Throw away the junk, don’t buy more, plan your meals, fill up your :: fridge with allowable snacks and get up in the morning and fix :: yourself some eggs. Go from there. Cool out on the snacks.

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::: get lots of exercise :: Do this if you enjoy it. At my weight and back discs exercise is :: troublesome. Maybe your back is a problem, but your weight is not a limitation, from what I know of you.

I wish I could exercise, I used to be very athletic. I know I will not ever be what I used to be. After taking care of the spinal problems I am experiencing right now, I will go through physical therapy. I am keeping a vision, that once I get this all fixed up the best I can, recuperate, do the PT, I may feel better than I have felt in a very long time. Then I can exercise. So, you keep the hope, a vision. If I have the willpower to stick to the Atkins plan, I have the will power to get healthy exercise wise. I continue to lose weight, even without exercising. Life has gotton so much better.

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:: Throw away the junk, don’t buy more, plan your meals, fill up your :: fridge with allowable snacks and get up in the morning and fix :: yourself some eggs. Go from there.

In the beginning, I made the mistake of buying the junk carb foods. It took me a time to realize, most of them are just not good to eat while low carbing. Takes willpower to throw them out, then not buy them anymore. After you do that, throw them out.. Then just buy wholesome foods, healthy wholesome snacks. Veggies, meat and cheese roll ups, tuna, boiled eggs, yogurt, etc.

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Hey, I’m just stating what’s working for me. I’ve always prided myself on being a man of my word. Even my ex-wife, who hates me more than Satan himself, has never doubted me. Putting my reputation on the line is an added incentive to reach my goal. BTW, I’ve already bought clothes three sizes smaller than I am. Keep checking the newsgroup, I’ll let you know when I’m wearing them. Failure is not an option. — Vic – (CGV) -Doing 1500 calories and under 20 carbs a day. 258/226/180 Since 3/24/04 – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –

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ok, good luck. -kelly

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:: ::: Throw away all the high-carb food in the house, stay out of the ::: middle aisles at the store, don’t eat at restaurants, :: :: I agree with all of these, 150% ! ! ! :: :: Stocking up with foods that will automatically conserve carbs is :: critical to my success. Even if I wanted to there are a limited :: number :: of things that are really carby in the house. :: ::: get lots of exercise :: Do this if you enjoy it. At my weight and back discs exercise is :: troublesome. Maybe your back is a problem, but your weight is not a limitation, from what I know of you.

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Throw away the junk, don’t buy more, plan your meals, fill up your fridge with allowable snacks and get up in the morning and fix yourself some eggs. Go from there. What’s stopping you? Make sure you really are ready mentally…get rid of the stuff in the house that isn’t allowed or that is a temptation to you! We can’t start it for you. You control it. We can only advise. Becky P. 199/142/135

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tell everyone you know to call you a whiny fat loser for the rest of your life if you fall off the diet.

yeah, just like a teen aged anorexic. do you buy pants two sizes too small too? sorry, but that’s really not a healthy suggestion for most folks. -kelly

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Throw away all the high-carb food in the house, stay out of the middle aisles at the store, don’t eat at restaurants,

I agree with all of these, 150% ! ! ! Stocking up with foods that will automatically conserve carbs is critical to my success. Even if I wanted to there are a limited number of things that are really carby in the house. get lots of exercise

Do this if you enjoy it. At my weight and back discs exercise is troublesome. FOcus on getting those cravings under control first. Eat up for the first two weeks and drown out the sweet cravings. I gave up caffeine as well and I think that helped me. Caffeine can cause insulin release. and tell everyone you know to call you a whiny fat loser for the rest of your life if you fall off the diet.

Telling people isn’t as important. In fact dealing with others on Atkins has its annoyances. I’m serious. That’s what I’ve done. It’s amazing what potential humiliation can do for your motivation.

DiGiTAL_ViNYL (no email) 350/300/Apr-299/200 Atkins since Jan 12, 2004 OWL-60 carbs/day (CCLL=?)

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Hello Everyone, Well, my husband and I were doing just GREAT on Atkins, starting in late August ‘03. I lost 27 pounds and he lost 25. Then came…Thanksgiving. Oh well, just for one day, can’t hurt, right? Well, same old song, different pie. Since the holidays, we are having A REALLY HARD TIME getting back on Atkins! We’ll do okay for a few days, and then one or the other or both of us will fall off. My husband especially is going through a LOT of stress at work, and he says eating de-stresses, comforts, etc. You understand. Does anyone have any suggestions? The thing is, we both really WANT to get back on it. My husband is also a diabetic and his numbers were near normal on Atkins, and I stopped thinking about sugar and white flour all day. Thank you all very much for reading this post, and for anything you might want to say. princessJuly

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Throw away all the high-carb food in the house, stay out of the middle aisles at the store, don’t eat at restaurants, get lots of exercise and tell everyone you know to call you a whiny fat loser for the rest of your life if you fall off the diet. I’m serious. That’s what I’ve done. It’s amazing what potential humiliation can do for your motivation. — Vic – (CGV) -Doing 1500 calories and under 20 carbs a day. 258/226/180 Since 3/24/04

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hello Everyone, Well, my husband and I were doing just GREAT on Atkins, starting in late August ‘03. I lost 27 pounds and he lost 25. Then came…Thanksgiving. Oh well, just for one day, can’t hurt, right? Well, same old song, different pie. Since the holidays, we are having A REALLY HARD TIME getting back on Atkins! We’ll do okay for a few days, and then one or the other or both of us will fall off. My husband especially is going through a LOT of stress at work, and he says eating de-stresses, comforts, etc. You understand. Does anyone have any suggestions? The thing is, we both really WANT to get back on it. My husband is also a diabetic and his numbers were near normal on Atkins, and I stopped thinking about sugar and white flour all day. Thank you all very much for reading this post, and for anything you might want to say. princessJuly

Getting into the right frame set is the hardest part of dieting. Personally, I think you are either ready or you’re not. I thought about losing weight every day for years. Oh yea, well maybe one of these days or tomorrow, next week. Whatever got me through the day. It wasn’t until I stood in front of that huge basket filled with Easter goodies that I knew what I had to do. I had to say NO! I had to get it into my head that the only person that can help me be a better me is ME! I knew right then and there that I had to take responsibility for my own actions. No one forced me to eat things that were bad for my body. I did it willingly. The moment that I truly got that concept, I started changing the way I looked at food and myself. If you truly want something badly enough then you’ll climb just about any mountain you have to. Achieving goals along the way help you to stay focused. Low carbing is a tool to use to help you lose weight and get physically fit. It can’t do it all for you, there has to be the need within you to make the changes needed to obtain your goals. It isn’t easy, but I’ve learned new things every step of the way this past year. The most important thing that I’ve learned is that I TRULY want this for myself and I’m willing to do whatever it takes to make it happen. So you have to give up your favorite high carb foods for a while. It doesn’t mean you can’t ever have that piece of cake or ice cold beer again. It’s how you put the information you gain from being on the diet in the first place to work for you. You’ll get to where you know what you can eat that isn’t on plan, how much, etc. And you’ll find out what the consequences are and have to deal with them. I try to keep reminding myself that I didn’t get fat overnight and I won’t get thin and fit overnight. Depriving yourself isn’t going to make it easier to stick on this new way of eating. Taking the knowledge and making informed choices is the key. It takes some effort and some days where you just want to eat as many carbs as possible just because you can! If you faulter one meal or one day or one week, just start back on plan. Seems to me that it isn’t worth the effort to lose 50 pounds just to go off plan and gain it back. I’m eager to see what lies ahead of me in my weight loss adventure. And I know that I’m more informed and in touch with my body than I’ve ever been. I’m worth it and so are you. Just set your mind. You can do it if it’s truly what you want for your future. Good luck and just do it! — Kelly 270/209/Goal Weight 140 51 3/4 Total Inches Lost – Measurements updated April 21st. April Challenge Weight: 205

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