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I know many of us on here suffer from the ‘I wanna lie on the motorway’ syndrome from time to time. but is anyone getting meds for it? My medic just doesn’t seem interested and the fact that I cant function properly is just summat I have to live with :^(
Sometimes. Mine believes in a short sharp Valium course, nothing permanent. I took four out of the thirty days worth and binned them. Ratty — All killer no filler ratty at flyingrat.net New webthingy is www.flyingrat.net
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I take 40 mg of citolapram daily and visit my GP every 3 months to see how things are going on. I suppose it helps a bit but I still get the days when you start to wonder if it is all worth it!. Hang in there Carl
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I know many of us on here suffer from the ‘I wanna lie on the motorway’ syndrome from time to time. but is anyone getting meds for it? My medic just doesn’t seem interested and the fact that I cant function properly is just summat I have to live with :^(
I take venlafaxine (efexor) – have done for some time. I was treated for depression some years ago when I now know it was the diabetes – unfortunately didn’t know then. My GP is great – we review the dose of the venlafaxine regularly – just had it increased for a while. ffi
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I know many of us on here suffer from the ‘I wanna lie on the motorway’ syndrome from time to time. but is anyone getting meds for it? My medic just doesn’t seem interested and the fact that I cant function properly is just summat I have to live with :^( — John. who never email’s on 1st date so don’t ask. If the best things in life are free. Why cant I afford them?
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valium isn’t going to help with depression…just make you feel it doesn’t matter…and it’s highly addictive…you did the right thing most of the studies show that the best results are got by a mix of medication such as Prozac and talk baased therapy…one gets you through the worst biochemically and meanwhile you get to learn some tips on how to think your way away from the black dog
I should also have added that the practice employs a permanently on-site registered psychiatric nurse, and you don’t get the valium until he’s done an assessment. It’s valium for a short period with no chance of a repeat script, then ongoing counselling. The counsellor also got me over a severe needle phobia I had from childhood Ratty — All killer no filler ratty at flyingrat.net New webthingy is www.flyingrat.net
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I know many of us on here suffer from the ‘I wanna lie on the motorway’ syndrome from time to time. but is anyone getting meds for it? My medic just doesn’t seem interested and the fact that I cant function properly is just summat I have to live with :^( Sometimes. Mine believes in a short sharp Valium course, nothing permanent. I took four out of the thirty days worth and binned them.
valium isn’t going to help with depression…just make you feel it doesn’t matter…and it’s highly addictive…you did the right thing most of the studies show that the best results are got by a mix of medication such as Prozac and talk baased therapy…one gets you through the worst biochemically and meanwhile you get to learn some tips on how to think your way away from the black dog — eric "I am a man of many parts, unfortunately most of them are no longer in stock"
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I know many of us on here suffer from the ‘I wanna lie on the motorway’ syndrome from time to time. but is anyone getting meds for it? My medic just doesn’t seem interested and the fact that I cant function properly is just summat I have to live with :^(
change your medic…that attitude is dangerous — eric "live fast, die only if strictly necessary"
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Yeah I suffered for years and still do from time to time – when I do, I start on the old Prozac 40mg – use it for 40 days or so and drop the dose down to 20mg for a week and then off again…… At my most severe I was on 60mg a day……. Jackie T – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I know many of us on here suffer from the ‘I wanna lie on the motorway’ syndrome from time to time. but is anyone getting meds for it? My medic just doesn’t seem interested and the fact that I cant function properly is just summat I have to live with :^( change your medic…that attitude is dangerous — eric "live fast, die only if strictly necessary"
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wow, that’s scary.. can I ask a dumb, and maybe personal, question? Is it the diabetes that makes you depressed? I don’t think I’ve been "depressed" as such yet, although I’m still new to this of course. When I was told I had diabetes I thought "so, I need to inject everyday, I can handle that". Of course I never knew what it all meant, then I was in the doc’s room reading a leaflet with all the symptoms…and I had every single one of them, not knowing all along what it meant, then I burst out crying, I haven’t cried since I was about 13 and I’m 23 now. It was so scary to see yourself listed as a "condition"… "blurred vision" "excessive thirst" "frequent urination" "genital itching" "extreme tiredness" I had ‘em all man, friggin nightmare, but I still never thought anything of it, only when my vision got worse did I go for an eye test, not even to see my doctor, what a tool I was. Thank God the optition thought my sudden onset of poor vision was strange and reffered me to my doctor. So maybe that was little spell of depression. Is it common in diabetics? Stef
Yeah I suffered for years and still do from time to time – when I do, I
start on the old Prozac 40mg – use it for 40 days or so and drop the dose down to 20mg for a week and then off again…… At my most
severe I was on 60mg a day……. Jackie T
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| wow, that’s scary.. | | can I ask a dumb, and maybe personal, question? | | Is it the diabetes that makes you depressed? I don’t think I’ve been | "depressed" as such yet, although I’m still new to this of course. When I | was told I had diabetes I thought "so, I need to inject everyday, I can | handle that". | Of course I never knew what it all meant, then I was in the doc’s room | reading a leaflet with all the symptoms…and I had every single one of | them, not knowing all along what it meant, then I burst out crying, I | haven’t cried since I was about 13 and I’m 23 now. It was so scary to see | yourself listed as a "condition"… | | "blurred vision" | "excessive thirst" | "frequent urination" | "genital itching" | "extreme tiredness" | | I had ‘em all man, friggin nightmare, but I still never thought anything of | it, only when my vision got worse did I go for an eye test, not even to see | my doctor, what a tool I was. Thank God the optition thought my sudden onset | of poor vision was strange and reffered me to my doctor. | | So maybe that was little spell of depression. Is it common in diabetics? | | Stef I have personally discovered that consistently high blood sugars does some pretty weird stuff to your head and going by the numbers on here that ’suffer’ I think there is a definite relationship. I dont know if it’s the diabetes that causes the depresssion or not. I do know I never got depressed till about 1yr ago but I’ve had some major changes to my life in the last year some of which ‘might’ be responsible. In fact I was quite relieved to be told I was diabetic. I only went to the docs cos I thought I had Alzheimers. Now that was scary. but I try to look on the bright side. I can be as pervy as I want now and blame it on the sugar levels sending me off my trolley ;^) As for the other symptoms I dont get the thirst/urination or itching 1’s but I can add short term memory loss, mild tingling all over, mood swings and an increase in my sexual activity levels. Now if ever they come up with a magic bullet to cure this I for one wouldnt mind hanging on to this last one :^) |
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right med (i’ve tried about 15 of them……. think i have the one that works k
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I take 40 mg of citolapram daily and visit my GP every 3 months to see how things are going on. I suppose it helps a bit but I still get the days when you start to wonder if it is all worth it!. Hang in there Carl
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In my experience – my dad died and that broke me up totally and I plummeted into depression, then along came the PCOS and wham then – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – wow, that’s scary.. can I ask a dumb, and maybe personal, question? Is it the diabetes that makes you depressed? I don’t think I’ve been "depressed" as such yet, although I’m still new to this of course. When I was told I had diabetes I thought "so, I need to inject everyday, I can handle that". Of course I never knew what it all meant, then I was in the doc’s room reading a leaflet with all the symptoms…and I had every single one of them, not knowing all along what it meant, then I burst out crying, I haven’t cried since I was about 13 and I’m 23 now. It was so scary to see yourself listed as a "condition"… "blurred vision" "excessive thirst" "frequent urination" "genital itching" "extreme tiredness" I had ‘em all man, friggin nightmare, but I still never thought anything of it, only when my vision got worse did I go for an eye test, not even to see my doctor, what a tool I was. Thank God the optition thought my sudden onset of poor vision was strange and reffered me to my doctor. So maybe that was little spell of depression. Is it common in diabetics? Stef Yeah I suffered for years and still do from time to time – when I do, I start on the old Prozac 40mg – use it for 40 days or so and drop the dose down to 20mg for a week and then off again…… At my most severe I was on 60mg a day……. Jackie T I know many of us on here suffer from the ‘I wanna lie on the motorway’ syndrome from time to time. but is anyone getting meds for it? My medic just doesn’t seem interested and the fact that I cant function properly is just summat I have to live with :^( change your medic…that attitude is dangerous — eric "live fast, die only if strictly necessary"
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Is depression a normal part of diabetes? I ask this, because I was diagnosed with type 2 last October, and have had bouts of depression since about that time. Mind you, I have lots going on in my life at the moment other than diabetes that is causing me grief. Steve.. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – right med (i’ve tried about 15 of them……. think i have the one that works k I take 40 mg of citolapram daily and visit my GP every 3 months to see how things are going on. I suppose it helps a bit but I still get the days when you start to wonder if it is all worth it!. Hang in there Carl
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I agree wholeheartidly! Unfortunately, Oreo’s are my Time Of The Month snack but they slowly crept back into my life. Not this time around, because they comes, I will find a suitable substitute…….
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – * I don’t really miss most of the crap I used to eat. Now and then I wish I could eat something like banana or pumpkin bread. And darnit…..Oreo’s practically jump of the shelf and into my cart in the store when I walk by. :). I was thinking about Oreos yesterday. No offense, but it occurred to me that Oreos actually suck. I saw a commercial on tv and thought – now there’s a crappy tasting item with a big advertising party around it that presents absolutely no benefit to society. They really don’t taste that good, I never thought they did. Once you lose the compulsion you realize…you know…a lot of this stuff is really sort of gummy and nasty, it has no flavor and has been sitting on a lukewarm shelf for eight months in a warehouse keeping the weevils company. There are things like that that I would buy all the time that I am actually sort of relieved I don’t eat anymore. Nilla wafers. Snackwell’s. Cereal in a box. What is cereal in a box, anyway? Dried starch paste. Seriously, that’s what it is. And then I start thinking about all the junk people feed their kids, like those gummy sharks and fruit rollups and that stuff…what is it? You know the sugar water in the plastic bottles? I mean why dont they just give parents a toddler IV so they can hook them up to high fructose corn syrup intravenously? :). Give it a couple weeks, you’ll be even more disinterested in the junk in the middle aisles of the store. c Elves did not bake that. Trust me.
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Outstanding achievement! I started on the first of July but decided not to weigh myself until the 15th. My clothes feel much more comfortable and I know good things are happening. KEEP UP THE EFFORT!!! Mark
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – A few personal truths exposed to me tonight: * I am surprised just how easily my supposedly engrained eating habits have been altered. * I don’t really miss most of the crap I used to eat. Now and then I wish I could eat something like banana or pumpkin bread. And darnit…..Oreo’s practically jump of the shelf and into my cart in the store when I walk by. But I just say my hellos and walk on by. It makes me feel strong. * Eating is no longer this mindless activity I suddenly find myself engaging in. * I eat more vegetables then I have ever in my life. This can’t be a bad thing! * I feel satisfied (emotionally and physcially) after eating the way I have been during induction. * I no longer resent what I cannot eat, but look forward to the healthy, yummy foods I am putting into my body. * My blood sugar seems to have stabalized. * My PCOS symptoms have been minor (This is a big deal!) *After eight days of working on making this a WOL I climbed on the scale. I let me know I was doing things right. * When I am especially frustrated, I lock myself in the bathroom, strip to my skivvies and take a good look at myself in the mirror. I recognize where I have lost and give myself a mental pat on the back. It does help! * Of course I am feeling torn at the moment about loyalty to specific WOL. I fashioned way (for me at least)…….low-fat, no dairy and no junk food. It worked, but maybe because I had so much to lose eh? However, I was feeling frustrated and Atkins has allowed me to cross over my plateau weight of 225. * This is definately the WOL of life I want to live. I feel great about it. I have never been able to say that about dieting before…….because this * Reading other people’s success stories makes me feel motivated and strong. I want to be able to write one of my own someday. That’s all……I am a writer at heart so I tend to get long Weight Loss History (this time around!) September 9, 2001 265 (Wedding Day!!!) Christmas 2001 275 (Highest Weight EVER!) April 13, 2002 245 (First Day of New Job) June 28, 2002 227 (First Day of Atkins) July 7, 2002 215 (First Official Weigh In During Induction) Total Pounds Lost: 57 pounds to date. First Goal Weight: 200 Final Goal Weight: 160 Pounds to First Goal Weight: 15 Pounds to Final Goal Weight: 55 Chelle West Coast Sims Headmistress http://www.sad-world.com/westcoastsims
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Good idea on the fudgecicles and thanks for the word of encouragement Mark.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Outstanding achievement! I started on the first of July but decided not to weigh myself until the 15th. My clothes feel much more comfortable and I know good things are happening. KEEP UP THE EFFORT!!! Mark A few personal truths exposed to me tonight: * I am surprised just how easily my supposedly engrained eating habits have been altered. * I don’t really miss most of the crap I used to eat. Now and then I wish I could eat something like banana or pumpkin bread. And darnit…..Oreo’s practically jump of the shelf and into my cart in the store when I walk by. But I just say my hellos and walk on by. It makes me feel strong. * Eating is no longer this mindless activity I suddenly find myself engaging in. * I eat more vegetables then I have ever in my life. This can’t be a bad thing! * I feel satisfied (emotionally and physcially) after eating the way I have been during induction. * I no longer resent what I cannot eat, but look forward to the healthy, yummy foods I am putting into my body. * My blood sugar seems to have stabalized. * My PCOS symptoms have been minor (This is a big deal!) *After eight days of working on making this a WOL I climbed on the scale. I That let me know I was doing things right. * When I am especially frustrated, I lock myself in the bathroom, strip to my skivvies and take a good look at myself in the mirror. I recognize where I have lost and give myself a mental pat on the back. It does help! * Of course I am feeling torn at the moment about loyalty to specific WOL. I fashioned way (for me at least)…….low-fat, no dairy and no junk food. It worked, but maybe because I had so much to lose eh? However, I was feeling frustrated and Atkins has allowed me to cross over my plateau weight of 225. * This is definately the WOL of life I want to live. I feel great about it. I have never been able to say that about dieting before…….because this * Reading other people’s success stories makes me feel motivated and strong. I want to be able to write one of my own someday. That’s all……I am a writer at heart so I tend to get long Weight Loss History (this time around!) September 9, 2001 265 (Wedding Day!!!) Christmas 2001 275 (Highest Weight EVER!) April 13, 2002 245 (First Day of New Job) June 28, 2002 227 (First Day of Atkins) July 7, 2002 215 (First Official Weigh In During Induction) Total Pounds Lost: 57 pounds to date. First Goal Weight: 200 Final Goal Weight: 160 Pounds to First Goal Weight: 15 Pounds to Final Goal Weight: 55 Chelle West Coast Sims Headmistress http://www.sad-world.com/westcoastsims
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A few personal truths exposed to me tonight: * I am surprised just how easily my supposedly engrained eating habits have been altered. * I don’t really miss most of the crap I used to eat. Now and then I wish I could eat something like banana or pumpkin bread. And darnit…..Oreo’s practically jump of the shelf and into my cart in the store when I walk by. But I just say my hellos and walk on by. It makes me feel strong. * Eating is no longer this mindless activity I suddenly find myself engaging in. * I eat more vegetables then I have ever in my life. This can’t be a bad thing! * I feel satisfied (emotionally and physcially) after eating the way I have been during induction. * I no longer resent what I cannot eat, but look forward to the healthy, yummy foods I am putting into my body. * My blood sugar seems to have stabalized. * My PCOS symptoms have been minor (This is a big deal!) *After eight days of working on making this a WOL I climbed on the scale. I let me know I was doing things right. * When I am especially frustrated, I lock myself in the bathroom, strip to my skivvies and take a good look at myself in the mirror. I recognize where I have lost and give myself a mental pat on the back. It does help! * Of course I am feeling torn at the moment about loyalty to specific WOL. I way (for me at least)…….low-fat, no dairy and no junk food. It worked, but maybe because I had so much to lose eh? However, I was feeling frustrated and Atkins has allowed me to cross over my plateau weight of 225. * This is definately the WOL of life I want to live. I feel great about it. I have never been able to say that about dieting before…….because this * Reading other people’s success stories makes me feel motivated and strong. I want to be able to write one of my own someday. That’s all……I am a writer at heart so I tend to get long Weight Loss History (this time around!) September 9, 2001 265 (Wedding Day!!!) Christmas 2001 275 (Highest Weight EVER!) April 13, 2002 245 (First Day of New Job) June 28, 2002 227 (First Day of Atkins) July 7, 2002 215 (First Official Weigh In During Induction) Total Pounds Lost: 57 pounds to date. First Goal Weight: 200 Final Goal Weight: 160 Pounds to First Goal Weight: 15 Pounds to Final Goal Weight: 55 Chelle West Coast Sims Headmistress http://www.sad-world.com/westcoastsims
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Sounds like it’s going well for you–keep up the good work!
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A few personal truths exposed to me tonight:
<bulk snipped for space A wonderful post Chelle. Thanks for giving me the privilege of reading how well you have been doing. :-) Miss Jaime (Hamilton, Ontario CANADA) Ancient Chinese proverb say: A journey of 1000 miles begins with a single step. The majority of my meals are meats/fish/eggs/poultry, green leafy vegetables, oils, and water.
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* I don’t really miss most of the crap I used to eat. Now and then I wish I could eat something like banana or pumpkin bread. And darnit…..Oreo’s practically jump of the shelf and into my cart in the store when I walk by.
:). I was thinking about Oreos yesterday. No offense, but it occurred to me that Oreos actually suck. I saw a commercial on tv and thought – now there’s a crappy tasting item with a big advertising party around it that presents absolutely no benefit to society. They really don’t taste that good, I never thought they did. Once you lose the compulsion you realize…you know…a lot of this stuff is really sort of gummy and nasty, it has no flavor and has been sitting on a lukewarm shelf for eight months in a warehouse keeping the weevils company. There are things like that that I would buy all the time that I am actually sort of relieved I don’t eat anymore. Nilla wafers. Snackwell’s. Cereal in a box. What is cereal in a box, anyway? Dried starch paste. Seriously, that’s what it is. And then I start thinking about all the junk people feed their kids, like those gummy sharks and fruit rollups and that stuff…what is it? You know the sugar water in the plastic bottles? I mean why dont they just give parents a toddler IV so they can hook them up to high fructose corn syrup intravenously? :). Give it a couple weeks, you’ll be even more disinterested in the junk in the middle aisles of the store. c Elves did not bake that. Trust me.
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Well, I went to see a Re for the first time on the 25th of June. I had just finished clomide a few days prior. She did the blood work up to see if I do indeed have PCOS ( I have every symptom and she said she was 100% I did at least have insulin resistance, although I have had a cyst removed back in 95) The test I got back so far say: TSH- 1.84, normal PROLACTIN – 3.3, normal Anyone know if those would show normal (that are not actually normal) because of the CLomide? Also, are they the low side of normal? Any info would be greatly appreciated. Thank you Love, Tonya
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Hi Tonya, I keep all my test results and I suggest everyone do the same……….. According to my lab report (Labcorp) the normal range for TSH is 0.360 – 5.800 I really don’t know if Clomid changes the results, your best bet is to ask your doctor. Here is a link for ranges of some blood tests http://www.merck.com/pubs/mmanual_home/appndxs/app3.htm Love Cathy — P.H.O.B.I.A. Off-line NJ Panic/Anxiety support Group http://community.nj.com/cc/phobia If someone listens, or stretches out a hand, or whispers a kind word of encouragement, or attempts to understand a lonely person, extraordinary things begin to happen. ~Loretta Girzatlis~ "Tom T." <tthiesNOS…@seasurf.net> wrote in message
news:KZDV8.27733$Dn3.89221@dfw-read.news.verio.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Well, I went to see a Re for the first time on the 25th of June. I had just > finished clomide a few days prior. She did the blood work up to see if I do > indeed have PCOS ( I have every symptom and she said she was 100% I did at > least have insulin resistance, although I have had a cyst removed back in > 95) The test I got back so far say: > TSH- 1.84, normal > PROLACTIN – 3.3, normal > Anyone know if those would show normal (that are not actually normal) > because of the CLomide? Also, are they the low side of normal? Any info > would be greatly appreciated. Thank you > Love, > Tonya
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"Tom T." wrote: > Well, I went to see a Re for the first time on the 25th of June. I had just > finished clomide a few days prior. She did the blood work up to see if I do > indeed have PCOS ( I have every symptom and she said she was 100% I did at > least have insulin resistance, although I have had a cyst removed back in > 95) The test I got back so far say: > TSH- 1.84, normal > PROLACTIN – 3.3, normal > Anyone know if those would show normal (that are not actually normal) > because of the CLomide? Also, are they the low side of normal? Any info > would be greatly appreciated. Thank you > Love, > Tonya
Hi. I don’t even know what Prolactin is, sorry, but I know about TSH. Thyroid Stimulating Hormone. Range for that is generally accepted as between less than 1 (.5 maybe? I’ve never been anywhere near low) and 4-6. Most doctors will start treating at 6. Many people don’t feel good until under 2. Some people feel better at almost 0. I started out at 7.5, and I’m down to 1.07 now, and feeling somewhat better, but there are other factors there. Anyway, if you don’t have hypothyroid symptoms, your level is probably good for you. I don’t believe Clomid affects that, but if TSH was off, the Clomid might not work. It’s hard to maintain pregnancy if you’re hypo, I think because of the low body temp, but also it will throw off other hormones. That’s probably why they check it. Jeni.
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Thank you! I’ll check those sites right now! Love, Tonya "Phobia" <pho…@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:DF0W8.78219$vq.3606335@bin6.nnrp.aus1.giganews.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hi Tonya, > I keep all my test results and I suggest everyone do the same……….. > According to my lab report (Labcorp) the normal range for TSH is 0.360 – > 5.800 > I really don’t know if Clomid changes the results, your best bet is to ask > your doctor. > Here is a link for ranges of some blood tests > http://www.merck.com/pubs/mmanual_home/appndxs/app3.htm > Love > Cathy > — > P.H.O.B.I.A. > Off-line NJ Panic/Anxiety support Group > http://community.nj.com/cc/phobia > If someone listens, or stretches out a hand, or whispers a kind word of > encouragement, or attempts to understand a lonely person, > extraordinary things begin to happen. > ~Loretta Girzatlis~ > "Tom T." <tthiesNOS…@seasurf.net> wrote in message > news:KZDV8.27733$Dn3.89221@dfw-read.news.verio.net… > > Well, I went to see a Re for the first time on the 25th of June. I had > just > > finished clomide a few days prior. She did the blood work up to see if I > do > > indeed have PCOS ( I have every symptom and she said she was 100% I did at > > least have insulin resistance, although I have had a cyst removed back in > > 95) The test I got back so far say: > > TSH- 1.84, normal > > PROLACTIN – 3.3, normal > > Anyone know if those would show normal (that are not actually normal) > > because of the CLomide? Also, are they the low side of normal? Any info > > would be greatly appreciated. Thank you > > Love, > > Tonya
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THank you for the info! I am still awaiting my other test results. Thanks again. love, Tonya "Paquerette" <paquere…@adelphia.net> wrote in message
news:3D28F1EB.A6FCAEB0@adelphia.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> "Tom T." wrote: > > Well, I went to see a Re for the first time on the 25th of June. I had just > > finished clomide a few days prior. She did the blood work up to see if I do > > indeed have PCOS ( I have every symptom and she said she was 100% I did at > > least have insulin resistance, although I have had a cyst removed back in > > 95) The test I got back so far say: > > TSH- 1.84, normal > > PROLACTIN – 3.3, normal > > Anyone know if those would show normal (that are not actually normal) > > because of the CLomide? Also, are they the low side of normal? Any info > > would be greatly appreciated. Thank you > > Love, > > Tonya > Hi. I don’t even know what Prolactin is, sorry, but I know about TSH. > Thyroid Stimulating Hormone. Range for that is generally accepted as > between less than 1 (.5 maybe? I’ve never been anywhere near low) and > 4-6. Most doctors will start treating at 6. Many people don’t feel good > until under 2. Some people feel better at almost 0. I started out at > 7.5, and I’m down to 1.07 now, and feeling somewhat better, but there > are other factors there. Anyway, if you don’t have hypothyroid symptoms, > your level is probably good for you. I don’t believe Clomid affects > that, but if TSH was off, the Clomid might not work. It’s hard to > maintain pregnancy if you’re hypo, I think because of the low body temp, > but also it will throw off other hormones. That’s probably why they > check it. > Jeni.
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hormonal imbalances can cause problems with gums…(some women have problems during pg) and I started having problems when my hormones got all messed up with my worsening pcos. "Nish" <nis…@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:B42S8.4456$XO2.827@newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Anyone here suffer from any teeth/gum ailments due to PCOS? I was wondering > since diabetes affects gums, etc… if PCOS would due the same for those who > have sugar problems like IR. Just curious because I always have something > wrong and I have always taken great care of my teeth… Oh well… > Tanisha
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I have very very bad teeth, not sure if it is related. I brush well, and stuff… but my teeth grew in broken. ~M’isa
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Ouch!!! I am driving an obscene # of hours tomorrow to go to NJ to my dentist I have gone to since I was little so he can figure out what is going on…. It is very stressful….. I can’t get dentures…..I will freak out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 Tanisha "M’isa" <m…@attbi.com> wrote in message
news:EsOT8.968851$og1.176455@news.easynews.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I have very very bad teeth, not sure if it is related. I brush well, and > stuff… but my teeth grew in broken. > ~M’isa
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Nish wrote: > how is your hair growing back in?
In alot of little fuzzies that stick out everywhere 
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"Nish" <nis…@earthlink.net> wrote in news:B42S8.4456$XO2.827@newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net: > Anyone here suffer from any teeth/gum ailments due to PCOS? I was > wondering since diabetes affects gums, etc… if PCOS would due > the same for those who have sugar problems like IR. Just curious > because I always have something wrong and I have always taken > great care of my teeth… Oh well…
When you’re IR you have a high insulin level but your sugar level is normal, so you shouldn’t have any diabetic type problems such as with eyes, teeth, or feet. But PCO can progress to diabetes if the IR isn’t treated. — —->Sagittaria<—- I"m ok, I’m ok — the hell with you.
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Anyone here suffer from any teeth/gum ailments due to PCOS? I was wondering since diabetes affects gums, etc… if PCOS would due the same for those who have sugar problems like IR. Just curious because I always have something wrong and I have always taken great care of my teeth… Oh well… Tanisha
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"Nish" <nis…@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:B42S8.4456$XO2.827@newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net… > Anyone here suffer from any teeth/gum ailments due to PCOS? I was wondering > since diabetes affects gums, etc… if PCOS would due the same for those who > have sugar problems like IR. Just curious because I always have something > wrong and I have always taken great care of my teeth… Oh well… > Tanisha
Hi Tanisha, That’s interesting…I’ve never heard anything about it. I have PCOS and IR and lots of symptoms that go with them…but it seems like my teeth are one of the few healthy body parts I have! Only problems I have had are a few cavities, and I haven’t had any for a couple of years, luckily. I could see maybe a connection between the IR making you crave lots of sugar, and then eating sugar could cause teeth/gum problems? I know that when I was getting cavities it was when I ate tons of sugary stuff. (I’ve been trying to do low carb for the past year, off and on) Hope that helps, Lindsey
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Lindsey wrote: > and lots of symptoms that go with them…but it seems like my teeth are one > of the few healthy body parts I have! Only problems I have had are a few
Never had problem 1 with my teeth. Have all my wisdom teeth still and no cavities in my entire life. When I have nightmares it is of my teeth falling out or having bald patches on my head like a barbie doll. I used to dream of that before my hair started falling out. At least now it’s growing back in…
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how is your hair growing back in? "Shena Delian O’Brien" <sh…@darklock.com> wrote in message news:3D19CC05.8040900@darklock.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Lindsey wrote: > > and lots of symptoms that go with them…but it seems like my teeth are one > > of the few healthy body parts I have! Only problems I have had are a few > Never had problem 1 with my teeth. Have all my wisdom teeth still and no > cavities in my entire life. When I have nightmares it is of my teeth > falling out or having bald patches on my head like a barbie doll. I used > to dream of that before my hair started falling out. At least now it’s > growing back in…
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"Tom T." <tthiesNOS…@seasurf.net> wrote in message
news:MvBO8.8584$Dn3.51648@dfw-read.news.verio.net… > Thank you Amylee, > I actually told him to write nut case on my folder! He is the only doc who > has ever said, "go with your intuition, it’s normally right" and right is > has been so far… unfotunatly. He’s pretty incredible. I am hoping to see > a peri as well as my regular OB. I see a RE at the end of the month. > Hpoefully all goes well there. Thank you. > Love, > Tonya
Sounds like you have a cool doctor there. Mine that I have now is that way. I went to her with the PCOS and after all of the test she was saying "wow you diagnosed yourself!" — Amylee, queen of the penguins.
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Thank you Kerri! Im hoping too! I’ll start clomide on tuesday (the same day as my 1st RE appointment!) I am an emotional basket case right now though!! :o) I’ll keep everyone posted. Thanks you! Tonya "Seanang" <kerryREM…@seanang.zzn.com> wrote in message
news:piingu4f97lnnf8skbnnl17hj7cp2svs58@4ax.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> On Fri, 14 Jun 2002 10:01:10 -0700, "Tom T." > <tthiesNOS…@seasurf.net> wrote: > |Hi all. I have been on alt.infertility and msic.kids.pregnancy and was just > |told about this group! Yeah! I was diagnoses with PCOS about 3 years ago, > |after (what feels like a lifetime) dealing with very irregular menstrual > |cycles, weight problems, acne, blah blah blah. Pretty much all the > |symptoms. In October of 2001 I start the clomide cycle: provera first then > |clomide. I actually got pregnant off of that first round. Had some early > |bleeding at 6 and 10 weeks but everything was fine. At 20 weeks I was sadly > |diagnosed with an incompetent cervix and lost our first baby Marisa on > |4-7-02, at 22 weeks 1 day. Yesterday was my last day of provera, so here I > |wait fo for my cycle so I can do the clomide thing again as we are TTC > |again. The more I read the more Im starting to feel like PCOS and IC are > |somehow linked together. (oh, I also have GBS) I am scared to death that > |this will happen again or that I will miscarry. I will start taking > |robitussin on the last day of my clomide (im not too sure how long to take > |it, any ideas?) and am taking baby aspirin to hopefully prevent a > |miscarriage (I’ve never miscarried but…better to be safe than sorry). > |Yesterday (last day of Provera) I started bleeding. Last time it took 14 > |days to start. My doc wants to wait and see if it gets heavier today and > |then we can consider yesterday CD 1. I hope, I hope, I hope!!! I am so so > |scared now the we are "officially" trying again. PCOS sucks!!! > |BY the way I am 25 and live in Oregon. I will be seeing a RE at the end of > |this month for the first time. I hope he can help me! > |Thank you. > |Love, > |Tonya > |mom to 1 angel Marisa > |TTC #2 > | > Hi Tonya, > Welcome to our corner of the web > I’m so sorry to hear of your loss, Marisa is a beautiful name. > I’ve got my fingers crossed that the clomid cycle works first pop for > you again. > Btw, I’m Kerry from Australia. > Hi!! > – Kerry
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if you have an incompetent cervix make sure you get a cerclage. Depending on your other risk factors for preterm labor (and as far as my dr. says PCO and incompetent cervix’s are not related, but I had plenty of other risk factors), this will help. The downside is that if you have preterm labor and don’t get it checked it out early enough the stitches that keep the cervix shut will rip (sort of defeating the purpose). On the other hand, I know someone who lasted, full term with a cerclage. Also, if you had bleeding early on you may again (usually this is asubchoronic bleed) and will go away as you get to the end of the first trimester. It will freak you out (it did me), so make sure if it happens to see the dr. as frequently as you can, and let her do sonograms to reassure you. Also, talk to your doctor about vaginal progesterone. You put it in twice a day and it will help make sure your body makes enough progesterone as the placenta develops. If you are prescribed this lay flat (if you can) for about 45 minutes afterwards with your pelvis up so that it will stay in. My husband would usually bring me a snack or something. Also, my doctor’s mantra when I was on the clomid was any bleeding (no matter how small or few days) marks day one for the countdown to clomid. hope this helps and feel free to e-mail since I had almost all of these experiences and many others elyann mother of Jonathan age 10 months – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -"Tom T." wrote: > Hi all. I have been on alt.infertility and msic.kids.pregnancy and was just > told about this group! Yeah! I was diagnoses with PCOS about 3 years ago, > after (what feels like a lifetime) dealing with very irregular menstrual > cycles, weight problems, acne, blah blah blah. Pretty much all the > symptoms. In October of 2001 I start the clomide cycle: provera first then > clomide. I actually got pregnant off of that first round. Had some early > bleeding at 6 and 10 weeks but everything was fine. At 20 weeks I was sadly > diagnosed with an incompetent cervix and lost our first baby Marisa on > 4-7-02, at 22 weeks 1 day. Yesterday was my last day of provera, so here I > wait fo for my cycle so I can do the clomide thing again as we are TTC > again. The more I read the more Im starting to feel like PCOS and IC are > somehow linked together. (oh, I also have GBS) I am scared to death that > this will happen again or that I will miscarry. I will start taking > robitussin on the last day of my clomide (im not too sure how long to take > it, any ideas?) and am taking baby aspirin to hopefully prevent a > miscarriage (I’ve never miscarried but…better to be safe than sorry). > Yesterday (last day of Provera) I started bleeding. Last time it took 14 > days to start. My doc wants to wait and see if it gets heavier today and > then we can consider yesterday CD 1. I hope, I hope, I hope!!! I am so so > scared now the we are "officially" trying again. PCOS sucks!!! > BY the way I am 25 and live in Oregon. I will be seeing a RE at the end of > this month for the first time. I hope he can help me! > Thank you. > Love, > Tonya > mom to 1 angel Marisa > TTC #2
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THANK YOU!! I was wondering if I would bleed again. I’ll certainly be more freaked out this time than last anyway. I will be have a cerclage put in at 12 to 14 weeks and plan on asking for lots of visits (I am hoping for 2 a month once I hit 19 weeks) may sound a bit drastic and over paranoid but I dont care. Doc already knows to put "headcase" on my file! Today officially counts as CD 1. YEAH!!! I will certainly email you, and it does help… tremendously. Thanks again. Love, Tonya "Elyann Katz" <ely…@starpower.net> wrote in message
news:3D0A41CB.C8E880E0@starpower.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> if you have an incompetent cervix make sure you get a cerclage. Depending on > your other risk factors for preterm labor (and as far as my dr. says PCO and > incompetent cervix’s are not related, but I had plenty of other risk factors), > this will help. The downside is that if you have preterm labor and don’t get it > checked it out early enough the stitches that keep the cervix shut will rip > (sort of defeating the purpose). On the other hand, I know someone who lasted, > full term with a cerclage. > Also, if you had bleeding early on you may again (usually this is asubchoronic > bleed) and will go away as you get to the end of the first trimester. It will > freak you out (it did me), so make sure if it happens to see the dr. as > frequently as you can, and let her do sonograms to reassure you. Also, talk to > your doctor about vaginal progesterone. You put it in twice a day and it will > help make sure your body makes enough progesterone as the placenta develops. If > you are prescribed this lay flat (if you can) for about 45 minutes afterwards > with your pelvis up so that it will stay in. My husband would usually bring me > a snack or something. Also, my doctor’s mantra when I was on the clomid was any > bleeding (no matter how small or few days) marks day one for the countdown to > clomid. > hope this helps and feel free to e-mail since I had almost all of these > experiences and many others > elyann > mother of Jonathan age 10 months > "Tom T." wrote: > > Hi all. I have been on alt.infertility and msic.kids.pregnancy and was just > > told about this group! Yeah! I was diagnoses with PCOS about 3 years ago, > > after (what feels like a lifetime) dealing with very irregular menstrual > > cycles, weight problems, acne, blah blah blah. Pretty much all the > > symptoms. In October of 2001 I start the clomide cycle: provera first then > > clomide. I actually got pregnant off of that first round. Had some early > > bleeding at 6 and 10 weeks but everything was fine. At 20 weeks I was sadly > > diagnosed with an incompetent cervix and lost our first baby Marisa on > > 4-7-02, at 22 weeks 1 day. Yesterday was my last day of provera, so here I > > wait fo for my cycle so I can do the clomide thing again as we are TTC > > again. The more I read the more Im starting to feel like PCOS and IC are > > somehow linked together. (oh, I also have GBS) I am scared to death that > > this will happen again or that I will miscarry. I will start taking > > robitussin on the last day of my clomide (im not too sure how long to take > > it, any ideas?) and am taking baby aspirin to hopefully prevent a > > miscarriage (I’ve never miscarried but…better to be safe than sorry). > > Yesterday (last day of Provera) I started bleeding. Last time it took 14 > > days to start. My doc wants to wait and see if it gets heavier today and > > then we can consider yesterday CD 1. I hope, I hope, I hope!!! I am so so > > scared now the we are "officially" trying again. PCOS sucks!!! > > BY the way I am 25 and live in Oregon. I will be seeing a RE at the end of > > this month for the first time. I hope he can help me! > > Thank you. > > Love, > > Tonya > > mom to 1 angel Marisa > > TTC #2
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I know what you mean about switching doctors. When I was pregnant the gulf war was going on. The male doctor, there was two females and one male, went to the war. They told me that when he comes back that he could be in the delivery room. I had NOT seen him at all. He still wasn’t there when Paul was born but that receptionist had me upset the whole last month. — Amylee, queen of the penguins. "Elyann Katz" <ely…@starpower.net> wrote in message
news:3D0B5916.5FA20344@starpower.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> sorry for all the repeat posts, server went flaky. Tonya–ask for more visits > early on if it makes you feel better. Once I started the bleeding at week 5 I > was in every two weeks (around 8 weeks they did the official prenatal visit > with the history and everything). Before that she examined me, primarily with > a transvaginal ultrasound. I was seen every two weeks until I went into > preterm labor at 30 1/2 weeks and was hospitalized. I was also seen a few > other times because of spotting (I had placenta previa from weeks 18 to week > 27). If you have a good dr. (and it sounds like you do) frequent visits early > on so you can see the little one growing and see the bleed shrinking (if you > have one) will make you feel so much better psychologically. And that is half > the battle. In fact, I am in a two women practice and my dr. had to take leave > for surgery. The other dr. forgot I was seen twice a month and had me schedule > an appt. for four weeks out. That was the hardest part of the pregnancy. > Penguin wrote: > > "Tom T." <tthiesNOS…@seasurf.net> wrote in message > > news:MvBO8.8584$Dn3.51648@dfw-read.news.verio.net… > > > Thank you Amylee, > > > I actually told him to write nut case on my folder! He is the only doc > > who > > > has ever said, "go with your intuition, it’s normally right" and right is > > > has been so far… unfotunatly. He’s pretty incredible. I am hoping to > > see > > > a peri as well as my regular OB. I see a RE at the end of the month. > > > Hpoefully all goes well there. Thank you. > > > Love, > > > Tonya > > Sounds like you have a cool doctor there. Mine that I have now is that way. > > I went to her with the PCOS and after all of the test she was saying "wow > > you diagnosed yourself!" > > — > > Amylee, queen of the penguins.
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"Tom T." <tthiesNOS…@seasurf.net> wrote in message
news:6sxO8.8578$Dn3.51358@dfw-read.news.verio.net… > THANK YOU!! I was wondering if I would bleed again. I’ll certainly be more > freaked out this time than last anyway. I will be have a cerclage put in at > 12 to 14 weeks and plan on asking for lots of visits (I am hoping for 2 a > month once I hit 19 weeks) may sound a bit drastic and over paranoid but I > dont care. Doc already knows to put "headcase" on my file! Today > officially counts as CD 1. YEAH!!! I will certainly email you, and it does > help… tremendously. Thanks again. > Love, > Tonya
Hi Tonya. Don’t worry about asking for extra visits to the doctor. When I was pregnant with Paul since I had so many miscarriages I went every week from the start. Of course we didn’t know about the PCOS back then they couldn’t figure out why the miscarriages. At one time the blood preassure went up and she taught me relaxation therapy. They also kept a close check on the sugar levels. This is while I was living in Arizona and she was a really hard doctor to get into. She took me since she had handled two of the previous miscarriages. If your doctor thinks you are a nut case then get another doctor. Do what ever it takes to take care of yourself. — Amylee, queen of the penguins.
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sorry for all the repeat posts, server went flaky. Tonya–ask for more visits early on if it makes you feel better. Once I started the bleeding at week 5 I was in every two weeks (around 8 weeks they did the official prenatal visit with the history and everything). Before that she examined me, primarily with a transvaginal ultrasound. I was seen every two weeks until I went into preterm labor at 30 1/2 weeks and was hospitalized. I was also seen a few other times because of spotting (I had placenta previa from weeks 18 to week 27). If you have a good dr. (and it sounds like you do) frequent visits early on so you can see the little one growing and see the bleed shrinking (if you have one) will make you feel so much better psychologically. And that is half the battle. In fact, I am in a two women practice and my dr. had to take leave for surgery. The other dr. forgot I was seen twice a month and had me schedule an appt. for four weeks out. That was the hardest part of the pregnancy. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Penguin wrote: > "Tom T." <tthiesNOS…@seasurf.net> wrote in message > news:MvBO8.8584$Dn3.51648@dfw-read.news.verio.net… > > Thank you Amylee, > > I actually told him to write nut case on my folder! He is the only doc > who > > has ever said, "go with your intuition, it’s normally right" and right is > > has been so far… unfotunatly. He’s pretty incredible. I am hoping to > see > > a peri as well as my regular OB. I see a RE at the end of the month. > > Hpoefully all goes well there. Thank you. > > Love, > > Tonya > Sounds like you have a cool doctor there. Mine that I have now is that way. > I went to her with the PCOS and after all of the test she was saying "wow > you diagnosed yourself!" > — > Amylee, queen of the penguins.
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Thank you Amylee, I actually told him to write nut case on my folder! He is the only doc who has ever said, "go with your intuition, it’s normally right" and right is has been so far… unfotunatly. He’s pretty incredible. I am hoping to see a peri as well as my regular OB. I see a RE at the end of the month. Hpoefully all goes well there. Thank you. Love, Tonya "Amylee" <mamapengui…@prodigy.net> wrote in message
news:rnyO8.1377$pX4.57915429@newssvr15.news.prodigy.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> "Tom T." <tthiesNOS…@seasurf.net> wrote in message > news:6sxO8.8578$Dn3.51358@dfw-read.news.verio.net… > > THANK YOU!! I was wondering if I would bleed again. I’ll certainly be > more > > freaked out this time than last anyway. I will be have a cerclage put in > at > > 12 to 14 weeks and plan on asking for lots of visits (I am hoping for 2 a > > month once I hit 19 weeks) may sound a bit drastic and over paranoid but > I > > dont care. Doc already knows to put "headcase" on my file! Today > > officially counts as CD 1. YEAH!!! I will certainly email you, and it > does > > help… tremendously. Thanks again. > > Love, > > Tonya > Hi Tonya. > Don’t worry about asking for extra visits to the doctor. When I was pregnant > with Paul since I had so many miscarriages I went every week from the start. > Of course we didn’t know about the PCOS back then they couldn’t figure out > why the miscarriages. At one time the blood preassure went up and she taught > me relaxation therapy. They also kept a close check on the sugar levels. > This is while I was living in Arizona and she was a really hard doctor to > get into. She took me since she had handled two of the previous > miscarriages. If your doctor thinks you are a nut case then get another > doctor. Do what ever it takes to take care of yourself. > — > Amylee, queen of the penguins.
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if you have an incompetent cervix make sure you get a cerclage. Depending on your other risk factors for preterm labor (and as far as my dr. says PCO and incompetent cervix’s are not related, but I had plenty of other risk factors), this will help. The downside is that if you have preterm labor and don’t get it checked it out early enough the stitches that keep the cervix shut will rip (sort of defeating the purpose). On the other hand, I know someone who lasted, full term with a cerclage. Also, if you had bleeding early on you may again (usually this is a subchoronic bleed) and will go away as you get to the end of the first trimester. It will freak you out (it did me), so make sure if it happens to see the dr. as frequently as you can, and let her do sonograms to reassure you. Also, talk to your doctor about vaginal progesterone. You put it in twice a day and it will help make sure your body makes enough progesterone as the placenta develops. If you are prescribed this lay flat (if you can) for about 45 minutes afterwards with your pelvis up so that it will stay in. My husband would usually bring me a snack or something. Also, my doctor’s mantra when I was on the clomid was any bleeding (no matter how small or few days) marks day one for the countdown to clomid. hope this helps and feel free to e-mail since I had almost all of these experiences and many others elyann mother of Jonathan age 10 months – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -"Tom T." wrote: > Hi all. I have been on alt.infertility and msic.kids.pregnancy and was just > told about this group! Yeah! I was diagnoses with PCOS about 3 years ago, > after (what feels like a lifetime) dealing with very irregular menstrual > cycles, weight problems, acne, blah blah blah. Pretty much all the > symptoms. In October of 2001 I start the clomide cycle: provera first then > clomide. I actually got pregnant off of that first round. Had some early > bleeding at 6 and 10 weeks but everything was fine. At 20 weeks I was sadly > diagnosed with an incompetent cervix and lost our first baby Marisa on > 4-7-02, at 22 weeks 1 day. Yesterday was my last day of provera, so here I > wait fo for my cycle so I can do the clomide thing again as we are TTC > again. The more I read the more Im starting to feel like PCOS and IC are > somehow linked together. (oh, I also have GBS) I am scared to death that > this will happen again or that I will miscarry. I will start taking > robitussin on the last day of my clomide (im not too sure how long to take > it, any ideas?) and am taking baby aspirin to hopefully prevent a > miscarriage (I’ve never miscarried but…better to be safe than sorry). > Yesterday (last day of Provera) I started bleeding. Last time it took 14 > days to start. My doc wants to wait and see if it gets heavier today and > then we can consider yesterday CD 1. I hope, I hope, I hope!!! I am so so > scared now the we are "officially" trying again. PCOS sucks!!! > BY the way I am 25 and live in Oregon. I will be seeing a RE at the end of > this month for the first time. I hope he can help me! > Thank you. > Love, > Tonya > mom to 1 angel Marisa > TTC #2
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Hi all. I have been on alt.infertility and msic.kids.pregnancy and was just told about this group! Yeah! I was diagnoses with PCOS about 3 years ago, after (what feels like a lifetime) dealing with very irregular menstrual cycles, weight problems, acne, blah blah blah. Pretty much all the symptoms. In October of 2001 I start the clomide cycle: provera first then clomide. I actually got pregnant off of that first round. Had some early bleeding at 6 and 10 weeks but everything was fine. At 20 weeks I was sadly diagnosed with an incompetent cervix and lost our first baby Marisa on 4-7-02, at 22 weeks 1 day. Yesterday was my last day of provera, so here I wait fo for my cycle so I can do the clomide thing again as we are TTC again. The more I read the more Im starting to feel like PCOS and IC are somehow linked together. (oh, I also have GBS) I am scared to death that this will happen again or that I will miscarry. I will start taking robitussin on the last day of my clomide (im not too sure how long to take it, any ideas?) and am taking baby aspirin to hopefully prevent a miscarriage (I’ve never miscarried but…better to be safe than sorry). Yesterday (last day of Provera) I started bleeding. Last time it took 14 days to start. My doc wants to wait and see if it gets heavier today and then we can consider yesterday CD 1. I hope, I hope, I hope!!! I am so so scared now the we are "officially" trying again. PCOS sucks!!! BY the way I am 25 and live in Oregon. I will be seeing a RE at the end of this month for the first time. I hope he can help me! Thank you. Love, Tonya mom to 1 angel Marisa TTC #2
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Hi everyone This may seem a bit long winded but I have been on Dianette tablets now approx 2 years however at Christmas my GP wanted me to have a 3 month break. During these 3 months I managed to loose about 1. 5 stones and was really pleased with myself. The big important question is that I started back on the tablets this month and for the last 3 days have been really ill in bed with severe headaches (never normally suffer from them), terrible chest pains, nausea and dizziness. The GP refused to come out to see me and I have to wait till Monday am to get an emergency appt. The only thing that I can think is causing this is the Dianette tablets so I stopped taking them. What do you all think ? Has anybody else had reactions like this ? Look forward to your replies Thanks Alison x
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"Alison" <larkindes…@btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:b5b74fa5.0206091134.2c594ff2@posting.google.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hi everyone > This may seem a bit long winded but I have been on Dianette tablets > now > approx 2 years however at Christmas my GP wanted me to have a 3 month > break. > During these 3 months I managed to loose about 1. 5 stones and was > really pleased with myself. > The big important question is that I started back on the tablets this > month and > for the last 3 days have been really ill in bed with severe headaches > (never normally suffer from them), terrible chest pains, nausea and > dizziness. > The GP refused to come out to see me and I have to wait till Monday am > to get an emergency appt. The only thing that I can think is causing > this is the Dianette tablets so I stopped taking them. > What do you all think ? Has anybody else had reactions like this ?
Come off them. Now. Use alternative contraception until the doctor will see you. Ask if there are tests to be run. Yasmin is available here in the UK now, so maybe consider changing to that. I’ve heard that it can help with hair growth/acne, but someone else on the groups can probably tell you more than me about that. Toast.
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Alison wrote: > Hi everyone > This may seem a bit long winded but I have been on Dianette tablets > now > approx 2 years however at Christmas my GP wanted me to have a 3 month > break. > During these 3 months I managed to loose about 1. 5 stones and was > really pleased with myself. > The big important question is that I started back on the tablets this > month and > for the last 3 days have been really ill in bed with severe headaches > (never normally suffer from them), terrible chest pains, nausea and > dizziness. > The GP refused to come out to see me and I have to wait till Monday am > to get an emergency appt. The only thing that I can think is causing > this is the Dianette tablets so I stopped taking them. > What do you all think ? Has anybody else had reactions like this ? > Look forward to your replies > Thanks > Alison x
Alison, Mostly when you have this sort of break, you will have these symptoms but not so severe. It’s good your going in to see someone in the AM. How did you feel when you stopped taking them again? Are you using them for Birth control or to regulate yourself becasue of PCOS? did you have a period while off of them? How were your symptoms while off of them? Take care, Marcella
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Marcella <blanc…@earthlink.net> wrote in message <news:3D044C03.2666CB13@earthlink.net>… > Marcella wrote: > > Mostly when you have this sort of break, you will have these symptoms > but not so severe. It’s good your going in to see someone in the AM. How > did you feel when you stopped taking them again? Are you using them for > Birth control or to regulate yourself becasue of PCOS? did you have a > period while off of them? How were your symptoms while off of them? > Take care, > Marcella
Hi Marcella Thanks for your reply. Whilst I was having the 3 month breakI was fine although did not have any periods. I used to go 7-10 months without a period before taking the Dianette and this, together with getting very depressed over the facial hair, was the reason the hospital put me on these tablets. I don’t need them as contraception. As soon as I stopped taking the Dianette again this time within 24-48 hours, I was fine and back my old self again. No Dianette for me any more but now have a 6-8 months wait for a referral appt back to the hospital. Does anyone know of any other medication I can take which will regulate me and also control the hair ? Thanks Alison x
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<snip> – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hi Marcella > Thanks for your reply. Whilst I was having the 3 month breakI was > fine although did not have any periods. I used to go 7-10 months > without a period before taking the Dianette and this, together with > getting very depressed over the facial hair, was the reason the > hospital put me on these tablets. I don’t need them as contraception. > As soon as I stopped taking the Dianette again this time within 24-48 > hours, I was fine and back my old self again. > No Dianette for me any more but now have a 6-8 months wait for a > referral appt back to the hospital. > Does anyone know of any other medication I can take which will > regulate me and also control the hair ?
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Hi All, My daughter in law has just found out that she has PCOS. is there any literature, articles etc that I can give/forward to her that reinforce a lowcarb lifestyle as a potential solution? Thanks in advance Melbourne Cup
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Hi All, My daughter in law has just found out that she has PCOS. is there any literature, articles etc that I can give/forward to her that reinforce a lowcarb lifestyle as a potential solution? Thanks in advance Melbourne Cup
Hi Melbourne There is a good site at www.soulcysters.com that is all about PCOS and will have all the information she needs. I have PCOS as well and I read it weekly. It is updated constantly. There is also a pcos newsgroup alt.support.pco Miss Jaime (Hamilton, Ontario CANADA) ‘Nothing worth having is easy. If it was,everyone would have it.’
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I was also recently diagnosed with PCOS. A great website is www.pcosupport.org. They provide information to contact local support chapters and will send you information. It is a great organization and I am trying to start a local Houston chapter. There is also a PCOS book by Dr. Samuel Thatcher which provides great insight into PCOS. I know how it feels to be told that you have this. The medical community is just beginning to understand this. Was she also diagnosed with insulin resistence? This is a VERY common characteristic with women who have this. Good luck and if there is anything I can help you with please let me know. Jennifer in Houston
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi All, My daughter in law has just found out that she has PCOS. is there any literature, articles etc that I can give/forward to her that reinforce a lowcarb lifestyle as a potential solution? Thanks in advance Melbourne Cup
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My daughter in law has just found out that she has PCOS. is there any literature, articles etc that I can give/forward to her that reinforce a lowcarb lifestyle as a potential solution?
I too have PCOS and find LC WOE provides an antidote to many of the symptoms. I prefer not to go the route of taking dianette or Metaformin that so many PCOS sufferers tend to! What country is your daughter in? There are different organisations across the world that can provide help and support ….. Verity, & SoulCysters spring to mind. Regards Annie
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The only thing I would say is don’t rely on the clomid for too long. Add it for a couple of months along with the gluc but don’t spend more time than neccessary on it. Clomid loses it’s affectiveness after a time (about 6 cycles) and you should probably look into trying injectables after that. Since you have already done more than the original 6 cycles I would give the clomid maybe another 3 with gluc and then move on to bigger and better things. Good luck 
Jen "TTCNO2" <ttc…@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20020531010724.06893.00001432@mb-me.aol.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I am 37 years old and have been taking Glucophage since December. I was on > oral contraceptives from age 12 until age 33, when we decided to try to > conceive. I am blessed with one child, conceived when I was 34 on Clomid — we > were very lucky and conceived on only 50 mgs of Clomid the first month. Really > lucky, I know. This time around, we’re not so lucky…I took 100 mgs of Clomid > for 6 months and am on a two month break before trying another go at it. > At any rate, I’ve not noticed anything except diarrhea 2-3x per week on the > Glucophage. No weight loss, no cyces, nothing. I am taking Metformin 850 mgs > TID, a total of 2550 mgs, and have been at that dosage almost two months. I’ll > add on the Clomid again soon, once the Provera I am taking for 12 days induces > a period. > Here are my questions: > –When do you give up on the medicine? I mean, if it ain’t helping to regulate > my cycles, and I ain’t losing any weight, what good is it? > –Sometimes it’s really hard to remember to time those three pills a day, and I > end up taking two at bedtime. I have no problems tolerating this (my diarrhea > is clearly related to too many carbs) and my MD says it’s OK but not ideal, but > I’m wondering if it is actually a bad thing to do. > Any opinions or guidance welcome. > Thanks! > Sue
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Probably by your symptoms…as well as your bloodwork. They can tell by doing a C-Peptide blood test to check your insulin levels. I know generics are NOT the same. My doctor had to write a letter to my insurance company so they would not give me generic on the Prozac because it didn’t work for me. Bug On Mon, 03 Jun 2002 16:29:23 GMT, "Tara Anne" – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -<saturngr…@NOSHIThotmail.com> wrote: >How do you know if you aren’t responding to the generic? I just switched to >generic and I don’t want to take them if they aren’t working. >Tara >Shena Delian O’Brien <sh…@darklock.com> wrote in message >news:3CFAFE30.5080501@darklock.com… >> Shelley C. Kluz wrote: >> > Some people don’t respond to the generic? Is there a study that shows >this? >> > I felt I had better results on the brand name and need some backup so I >can get >> > back on it. >> Not that I know of. The generic, according to my doc, is too young to >> have many studies done about it. I am only going off the resounding >> number of posts I’ve seen about it on this and other groups.
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All I can say is that I know what you are feeling in regards to the Glucophage. I feel now benefits and I am now taking 1500 mg a day. I have had no weight loss, no menstraul cycle, my energy level is still lacking. So when do you give up? I have no idea. My doctor just keeps increasing the amount. I feel your pain. In regards to the clomid have you thought about trying other fertility treatments? "TTCNO2" <ttc…@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20020531010724.06893.00001432@mb-me.aol.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I am 37 years old and have been taking Glucophage since December. I was on > oral contraceptives from age 12 until age 33, when we decided to try to > conceive. I am blessed with one child, conceived when I was 34 on Clomid — we > were very lucky and conceived on only 50 mgs of Clomid the first month. Really > lucky, I know. This time around, we’re not so lucky…I took 100 mgs of Clomid > for 6 months and am on a two month break before trying another go at it. > At any rate, I’ve not noticed anything except diarrhea 2-3x per week on the > Glucophage. No weight loss, no cyces, nothing. I am taking Metformin 850 mgs > TID, a total of 2550 mgs, and have been at that dosage almost two months. I’ll > add on the Clomid again soon, once the Provera I am taking for 12 days induces > a period. > Here are my questions: > –When do you give up on the medicine? I mean, if it ain’t helping to regulate > my cycles, and I ain’t losing any weight, what good is it? > –Sometimes it’s really hard to remember to time those three pills a day, and I > end up taking two at bedtime. I have no problems tolerating this (my diarrhea > is clearly related to too many carbs) and my MD says it’s OK but not ideal, but > I’m wondering if it is actually a bad thing to do. > Any opinions or guidance welcome. > Thanks! > Sue
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Jenn wrote: > All I can say is that I know what you are feeling in regards to the > Glucophage. I feel now benefits and I am now taking 1500 mg a day. I have > had no weight loss, no menstraul cycle, my energy level is still lacking. So > when do you give up? I have no idea. My doctor just keeps increasing the > amount. I feel your pain.
Again are you on the generic or …? My doctor will NOT prescribe the generic and she is a recognized expert in PCOS.
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Thanks for your responses. I was actually thinking today that I ought to ditch the Met and try Gluc instead. I needed my MD to call in a refill and requested no substitutions. As for trying something other than Clomid, I really don’t want to do that. At 37, I know my eggs are older to begin with. Neither my husband (who is 45) nor I are prepared for the increased risk of multiples that comes with injectables, et al. We made the decision long ago that Clomid was as far as we’d go. I’m not too concerned about it. If we’re meant to have another child, it will happen; if not, we have a wonderful little girl! Since TTC this time around, I’ve taken Clomid for 6 months. The first dosage doesn’t even count in my book as I didn’t ovulate; we needed to increase to 100 mgs for the other 5 trials. And only 3 of those trials were in combination with Met, and the Met was at a lower dose, too. So we have some more experimenting to do with the Clomid. We’ll give it another 6 months, and if at that point we haven’t conceived (I’ll be 38 by then), then I think we’ll give up and be happy with who we have. <G> I’m really more concerned with the usefulness and effectiveness of the Metformin/Glucophage. I am willing to remain on this med for the rest of my life if it is doing anything. But if it isn’t, then I need to know when it is OK to give up, LOL. What is measurable? My PCOS manifests itself with anovulation (since menarche, never ever had a period without medications of one sort or another) and sudden weight gain in my early 30’s. I think the oral contraceptives I took in my 20’s controlled the worst symptoms that I could have had. I am 50 pounds overweight concentrated around my middle, have occasional acne breakouts, a few terminal hairs on my face, armpit discoloration, and my cholesteral is horrible (which is also partly attributable to familial hypercholesterolemia).
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See if they will add Actos (or Avandia) to the Glucophage. That is what finally made a difference for me. I started getting cycles every 45 days…..but beware that Actos can contribute towards more weight gain. Karen "TTCNO2" <ttc…@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20020531223226.19876.00001793@mb-mc.aol.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Thanks for your responses. I was actually thinking today that I ought to ditch > the Met and try Gluc instead. I needed my MD to call in a refill and requested > no substitutions. > As for trying something other than Clomid, I really don’t want to do that. At > 37, I know my eggs are older to begin with. Neither my husband (who is 45) nor > I are prepared for the increased risk of multiples that comes with injectables, > et al. We made the decision long ago that Clomid was as far as we’d go. I’m > not too concerned about it. If we’re meant to have another child, it will > happen; if not, we have a wonderful little girl! > Since TTC this time around, I’ve taken Clomid for 6 months. The first dosage > doesn’t even count in my book as I didn’t ovulate; we needed to increase to 100 > mgs for the other 5 trials. And only 3 of those trials were in combination > with Met, and the Met was at a lower dose, too. So we have some more > experimenting to do with the Clomid. We’ll give it another 6 months, and if at > that point we haven’t conceived (I’ll be 38 by then), then I think we’ll give > up and be happy with who we have. <G> > I’m really more concerned with the usefulness and effectiveness of the > Metformin/Glucophage. I am willing to remain on this med for the rest of my > life if it is doing anything. But if it isn’t, then I need to know when it is > OK to give up, LOL. What is measurable? > My PCOS manifests itself with anovulation (since menarche, never ever had a > period without medications of one sort or another) and sudden weight gain in my > early 30’s. I think the oral contraceptives I took in my 20’s controlled the > worst symptoms that I could have had. I am 50 pounds overweight concentrated > around my middle, have occasional acne breakouts, a few terminal hairs on my > face, armpit discoloration, and my cholesteral is horrible (which is also > partly attributable to familial hypercholesterolemia).
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>You may be one of the people who does not respond to the generic. Try >switching to the brand name, at a lower dose.
Some people don’t respond to the generic? Is there a study that shows this? I felt I had better results on the brand name and need some backup so I can get back on it. TIA Shelley
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Shelley C. Kluz wrote: > Some people don’t respond to the generic? Is there a study that shows this? > I felt I had better results on the brand name and need some backup so I can get > back on it.
Not that I know of. The generic, according to my doc, is too young to have many studies done about it. I am only going off the resounding number of posts I’ve seen about it on this and other groups.
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How do you know if you aren’t responding to the generic? I just switched to generic and I don’t want to take them if they aren’t working. Tara Shena Delian O’Brien <sh…@darklock.com> wrote in message news:3CFAFE30.5080501@darklock.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Shelley C. Kluz wrote: > > Some people don’t respond to the generic? Is there a study that shows this? > > I felt I had better results on the brand name and need some backup so I can get > > back on it. > Not that I know of. The generic, according to my doc, is too young to > have many studies done about it. I am only going off the resounding > number of posts I’ve seen about it on this and other groups.
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TTCNO2 wrote: > At any rate, I’ve not noticed anything except diarrhea 2-3x per week on the > Glucophage. No weight loss, no cyces, nothing. I am taking Metformin 850 mgs > TID, a total of 2550 mgs, and have been at that dosage almost two months. I’ll
You may be one of the people who does not respond to the generic. Try switching to the brand name, at a lower dose.
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I am 37 years old and have been taking Glucophage since December. I was on oral contraceptives from age 12 until age 33, when we decided to try to conceive. I am blessed with one child, conceived when I was 34 on Clomid — we were very lucky and conceived on only 50 mgs of Clomid the first month. Really lucky, I know. This time around, we’re not so lucky…I took 100 mgs of Clomid for 6 months and am on a two month break before trying another go at it. At any rate, I’ve not noticed anything except diarrhea 2-3x per week on the Glucophage. No weight loss, no cyces, nothing. I am taking Metformin 850 mgs TID, a total of 2550 mgs, and have been at that dosage almost two months. I’ll add on the Clomid again soon, once the Provera I am taking for 12 days induces a period. Here are my questions: –When do you give up on the medicine? I mean, if it ain’t helping to regulate my cycles, and I ain’t losing any weight, what good is it? –Sometimes it’s really hard to remember to time those three pills a day, and I end up taking two at bedtime. I have no problems tolerating this (my diarrhea is clearly related to too many carbs) and my MD says it’s OK but not ideal, but I’m wondering if it is actually a bad thing to do. Any opinions or guidance welcome. Thanks! Sue
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Oh that is for sure, like the colon build up thing.
You know – I posted that colon irrigation story as an experience had by one of my friends. At no time did I say it was the gospel truth. It isn’t something that I’ve had experience with, and I know nothing about it – I was merely relating a story. I can’t believe the amount of rude mail I’ve received on the topic. What I DO know is that it isn’t uncommon for small children and the elderly to suffer from impacted bowels. To say that the bowels NEVER retain unwanted fecal matter is just about as silly and saying that colon irrigation is a load of malarkey. I’m not promoting it, and I’ve never experienced it. Enough said. Lynne
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Lynne, sorry if you feel attacked and I am especially sorry if someone is sending you rude email. I surely am NOT doing that, and please do not quote my post out of context. Nobody said that bowels cannot get impacted, of course they do for some people and it is a serious medical condition that needs prompt attention. What we did say was that you do NOT get build up like plaque in your bowels as the ads for certain practices and products tout. It is scientifically hogwash. Don’t take it personally. Also, don’t expect everyone will be positive about any post. ConnieW
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Oh that is for sure, like the colon build up thing. You know – I posted that colon irrigation story as an experience had by one of my friends. At no time did I say it was the gospel truth. It isn’t something that I’ve had experience with, and I know nothing about it – I was merely relating a story. I can’t believe the amount of rude mail I’ve received on the topic. What I DO know is that it isn’t uncommon for small children and the elderly to suffer from impacted bowels. To say that the bowels NEVER retain unwanted fecal matter is just about as silly and saying that colon irrigation is a load of malarkey. I’m not promoting it, and I’ve never experienced it. Enough said. Lynne
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Your liver and organs sometimes need help. Hence homeopathic remedies, drugs, medicines, vitamins and so on. Not everyone is a charlatan just because you don’t understand what they practise.
Okay, please tell me what kind of "help" do you think your organs might need? If your liver and any other "organs" need help, you’re beyond any homeopathic remedies and need to see an internist immediately. As far as "understanding what they practice," I understand quite well. It’s those who don’t understand anatomy and physiology that fall for all the miracle cures and useless remedies. Yes, indeed there ARE herbs and homeopathic remedies that are effective to some degree. But just because SOME are, doesn’t mean they ALL are, because they mostly AREN’T of any use.
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Thanks Violet. :) Ken – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – http://www.drhuldaclark.org/liver_dr_hulda_clark.htm Haven’t tried it. Have been tempted a time or two but I would have to be on vacation or something. – Violet
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Amen! Desiree
Just because something’s been around a long time doesn’t make it valid.
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Too funny Myra! ConnieW
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hulda Quack, who according to her books, believes ALL diseases are caused by a rare fluke parasite (actually found in only a few small third world areas), and all diseases are cured by zapping yourself with an electric doohickey to rid yourself of these imaginary parasites, along with doing these liver "cleanses." Gee – that sounds like the Scientology of gallstones…. Myra
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Hey, snake oil is high in omega3 according to Udo. So pick another symbol. :-) Just trying to lighten things up before civil war breaks out again. Lee Rodgers I mean this in the nicest way possible: I don’t really think you’re in any position to judge other people’s choices about their health. True. People are going to do strange and useless things to themselves no matter how much they’re warned against them.So, who are we to judge if they want to waste their time and money? The salt water cleanse has been around since long before the internet, FYI. Yes, it has. So has snake oil. Just because something’s been around a long time doesn’t make it valid.
Lee Rodgers http://www.lowcarbretreat.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi IN MY OPINION prefaces anything written above my name Eat meat, drink water, sip oil and move. Atkins/Protein Power/Ketogenic LOSE weight for LOOSE jeans
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Oh that is for sure, like the colon build up thing. My daughter was in horrible pain a couple years ago, needing gallbladder surgery. Well because the severe attack started at midnight on a Saturday night and because the hospital refused to call in someone to do an UltraSound, they sent her home to call her doc on Monday if she wasn’t better, which she wasn’t. Then the wait to see the doc, the wait for the UltraSound and then the wait for the appointment for the Surgeon. I don’t know how she took it. It was horrible. I cannot tell you how many friends came up with "remedys" for gall stones. Whacko stuff. I couldn’t believe it, even though we told them they estimated the stones were the size of large gumballs, they acted like she should hold off on surgery to see if this 24 hour remedy would cure her. Gawd! ConnieW
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – snippage And it’s this basic ignorance of anatomy and physiology that keeps people spending millions of bucks on useless and sometimes dangerous "treatments & cures." "Oh, look, I used this concoction and now I’m pooping out lumps. Must be those gallstones are gone just like they promised!" Sheesh.
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My daughter was in horrible pain a couple years ago, needing gallbladder surgery. Well because the severe attack started at midnight on a Saturday night and because the hospital refused to call in someone to do an UltraSound, they sent her home to call her doc on Monday if she wasn’t better, which she wasn’t.
I can’t believe they made her wait two days – while it doesn’t happen very often, gallstones *can* kill you. Myra
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As an experiment, mix all of the liver cleanse ingredients together and let sit in a container overnight. In the morning pour the mixture into the toilet bowl and examine it for "stones"
Clark also claims cancer is caused by parasites that only her magic Zapper will cure! The woman’s a lunatic taking advantage of the gullible. — Wysong 206/170/130 or so… LC since mid July 2001 LC & LCal since Jan. 22, 2002
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Try 4 days Myra. No kidding. Gallbladder is nothing to mess around with. Actually, by the time she got into the her own doctor on Monday and then found a place that had an opening for the UltraSound and then got in to see the Surgeon it was 4 days since the onset of her pain. I was so po’d at the hospital. At the time, though, I didn’t go with her, she was married at the time and he went and she was in such pain that she didn’t insist they call her insurance to authorize calling in an UltraSound Tech. Then, when she came out of surgery – she had a bandage on her thigh and a spot about the size of a grapefruit was numb. Nobody seemed to know why she had a bandage on her thigh, nor why she had a numb spot there. The story goes on and on about the lack of care even post op. After it was all over, she did register a complaint with the hospital. A couple months ago she had to go to the same hospital for appendicitis, but this time they took very good care of her all the way through. Only had a problem with one bitchy nurse and I set her straight right away and got a different nurse assigned. I’m through putting up with attitudes. I am a very nice customer and I am just not going to put up with someone being hateful to me or my family. ConnieW
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – My daughter was in horrible pain a couple years ago, needing gallbladder surgery. Well because the severe attack started at midnight on a Saturday night and because the hospital refused to call in someone to do an UltraSound, they sent her home to call her doc on Monday if she wasn’t better, which she wasn’t. I can’t believe they made her wait two days – while it doesn’t happen very often, gallstones *can* kill you. Myra
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Then, when she came out of surgery – she had a bandage on her thigh and a spot about the size of a grapefruit was numb. Nobody seemed to know why she had a bandage on her thigh, nor why she had a numb spot there.
Did they ever figure out what that was? Only DH had gall bladder surgery last February and ever since then he’s had a numb patch on one thigh (and the skin temperature for just that one small patch is noticeably different, too) which no-one has ever been able to work out what it is. Aramanth
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Hulda Quack, who according to her books, believes ALL diseases are caused by a rare fluke parasite (actually found in only a few small third world areas), and all diseases are cured by zapping yourself with an electric doohickey to rid yourself of these imaginary parasites, along with doing these liver "cleanses."
Gee – that sounds like the Scientology of gallstones…. Myra
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The success of an acupuncturist depends largely on what kind of education they have… I have a wonderful acupuncturist, she practiced 20 years in China before coming to Canada. She’s an MD as well. Her treatments for my PCOS and its related symptoms never failed to work, but they do take a certain amount of time and patience. It’s not like popping a pill and poof! you’re all better. OTOH, there are a lot of poorly trained acupuncturists (and naturopaths, and chiropractors, and GOD KNOWS MD’s) practicing out there. It’s very buyer beware. — Cassie 300+/279/150 – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – i went for acupuncture many years ago, to help me with a smoking quit (didn’t work) and while there she said that my LIVER WAS SLUGGISH and "prescribed" this $40.00 bottle of 30 pills. was i thinking?" — rosie The only real voyage of discovery consists not in seeking new landscapes but Your liver and organs sometimes need help. Hence homeopathic remedies, drugs, medicines, vitamins and so on. Not everyone is a charlatan just because you don’t understand what they practise. http://www.drhuldaclark.org/liver_dr_hulda_clark.htm Haven’t tried it. Have been tempted a time or two but I would have to be on vacation or something. Your liver and other internal organs cleanse themselves. Don’t fall for ‘net quackery. — Wysong 206/170/130 or so… LC since mid July 2001 LC & LCal since Jan. 22, 2002 — Leslie Strom – Get Lost Magazine http://www.getlostmagazine.com A Journal of Natural and Unnatural Events 7/1/00 226/187/156-146
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I mean this in the nicest way possible: I don’t really think you’re in any position to judge other people’s choices about their health.
True. People are going to do strange and useless things to themselves no matter how much they’re warned against them.So, who are we to judge if they want to waste their time and money? The salt water cleanse has been around since long before the internet, FYI.
Yes, it has. So has snake oil. Just because something’s been around a long time doesn’t make it valid.
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It forms a soap-like substance (in the bowl or in the body), and the many blobs of this substance eliminated by users are claimed to be "stones," even though they bear no resemblance at all to real gallstones.
And it’s this basic ignorance of anatomy and physiology that keeps people spending millions of bucks on useless and sometimes dangerous "treatments & cures." "Oh, look, I used this concoction and now I’m pooping out lumps. Must be those gallstones are gone just like they promised!" Sheesh.
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I mean this in the nicest way possible: I don’t really think you’re in any position to judge other people’s choices about their health. The salt water cleanse has been around since long before the internet, FYI. – Violet – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – http://www.drhuldaclark.org/liver_dr_hulda_clark.htm Haven’t tried it. Have been tempted a time or two but I would have to be on vacation or something. Your liver and other internal organs cleanse themselves. Don’t fall for ‘net quackery.
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The nicest thing I can say about Hulda Clark is that not all alternative medical theories are sound or safe. Just as some conventional medicine is to be avoided the same can be said about certain alternative practices. As an experiment, mix all of the liver cleanse ingredients together and let sit in a container overnight. In the morning pour the mixture into the toilet bowl and examine it for "stones" Lee Rodgers Just curious if anyone has ever done this? I’ve heard it helps with weight loss, and should be done several times a year. I am also trying to re-find the directions for it. Ken
Lee Rodgers http://www.lowcarbretreat.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi IN MY OPINION prefaces anything written above my name Eat meat, drink water, sip oil and move. Atkins/Protein Power/Ketogenic LOSE weight for LOOSE jeans
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The nicest thing I can say about Hulda Clark is that not all alternative medical theories are sound or safe. Just as some conventional medicine is to be avoided the same can be said about certain alternative practices. As an experiment, mix all of the liver cleanse ingredients together and let sit in a container overnight. In the morning pour the mixture into the toilet bowl and examine it for "stones"
It forms a soap-like substance (in the bowl or in the body), and the many blobs of this substance eliminated by users are claimed to be "stones," even though they bear no resemblance at all to real gallstones. Hulda Quack, who according to her books, believes ALL diseases are caused by a rare fluke parasite (actually found in only a few small third world areas), and all diseases are cured by zapping yourself with an electric doohickey to rid yourself of these imaginary parasites, along with doing these liver "cleanses." — "There’s a seeker born every minute."
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Your liver and organs sometimes need help. Hence homeopathic remedies, drugs, medicines, vitamins and so on. Not everyone is a charlatan just because you don’t understand what they practise. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – http://www.drhuldaclark.org/liver_dr_hulda_clark.htm Haven’t tried it. Have been tempted a time or two but I would have to be on vacation or something. Your liver and other internal organs cleanse themselves. Don’t fall for ‘net quackery. — Wysong 206/170/130 or so… LC since mid July 2001 LC & LCal since Jan. 22, 2002
– Leslie Strom – Get Lost Magazine http://www.getlostmagazine.com A Journal of Natural and Unnatural Events 7/1/00 226/187/156-146
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i went for acupuncture many years ago, to help me with a smoking quit (didn’t work) and while there she said that my LIVER WAS SLUGGISH and "prescribed" this $40.00 bottle of 30 pills. i thinking?" — rosie The only real voyage of discovery consists not in seeking new landscapes but
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Your liver and organs sometimes need help. Hence homeopathic remedies, drugs, medicines, vitamins and so on. Not everyone is a charlatan just because you don’t understand what they practise. http://www.drhuldaclark.org/liver_dr_hulda_clark.htm Haven’t tried it. Have been tempted a time or two but I would have to be on vacation or something. Your liver and other internal organs cleanse themselves. Don’t fall for ‘net quackery. — Wysong 206/170/130 or so… LC since mid July 2001 LC & LCal since Jan. 22, 2002 — Leslie Strom – Get Lost Magazine http://www.getlostmagazine.com A Journal of Natural and Unnatural Events 7/1/00 226/187/156-146
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To original poster: Why not just get some liver function test and see what your liver is doing? Why not buy some Milk Thistle (sp) and use them on a regular basis? At least Milk Thistle is recognized and used some by drug rehab facilities as a liver cleaner if you will. Desiree
http://www.drhuldaclark.org/liver_dr_hulda_clark.htm Haven’t tried it. Have been tempted a time or two but I would have to be on vacation or something. – Violet
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Just curious if anyone has ever done this? I’ve heard it helps with weight loss, and should be done several times a year. I am also trying to re-find the directions for it. Ken
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Just curious if anyone has ever done this? I’ve heard it helps with weight loss, and should be done several times a year. I am also trying to re-find the directions for it. Ken
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http://www.drhuldaclark.org/liver_dr_hulda_clark.htm Haven’t tried it. Have been tempted a time or two but I would have to be on vacation or something. – Violet
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Just curious if anyone has ever done this? I’ve heard it helps with weight loss, and should be done several times a year. I am also trying to re-find the directions for it. Ken
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http://www.drhuldaclark.org/liver_dr_hulda_clark.htm Haven’t tried it. Have been tempted a time or two but I would have to be on vacation or something.
Your liver and other internal organs cleanse themselves. Don’t fall for ‘net quackery. — Wysong 206/170/130 or so… LC since mid July 2001 LC & LCal since Jan. 22, 2002
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— rosie Sometimes what we think is so impossible turns out to be possible after all. –K. O’Brien
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi all, Had my physical today! OMG I fit into the hospital gown! It tied behind me without stretching and showing skin! That was the first proclamation I made when my doctor walked in…I fit into the gown! He said he’s thrilled with my progress and asked him how I was doing it. I kind of lowered my head said "Please don’t yell at me….low-carb" (never know how some doctors are going to react to it, ya know? Some folks here have very supportive docs, others have docs totally opposed to it). He smiled and said "Now Jennifer, have I EVER yelled at you?" He actually didn’t say a bad word about it, other than to remind me it’s important for me to take supplements. He agrees with my PCOS assumption, and did some special bloodwork to check for testosterone levels. However, he said the first thing he would do for anyone with PCOS is to put them on the pill to try to regulate estrogen, and I’m already on that. Then he mentioned Glucophage for insulin resistance, but I told him I didn’t want any meds for PCOS (if I have it) at least right now, ’cause I don’t want ANYTHING that could potentially change my body chemistry while I’m in weight-loss mode; and let’s face it, if I have PCOS, I’ve had it since I was a teenager and a few more months of no meds for it isn’t going to hurt. He also mentioned a drug that helps with excessive hair growth–that’s something I might consider down the road. As far as my totally abnormal TOM’s go, he explained it very simply: estrogen accumulates (okay that’s not the word, but I’m a laywoman) in the fatty tissue and that’s one reason cycles are regulated by the pill. When the fatty tissue is lessened by large amounts of weight loss, it doesn’t accumulate in the tissue, and the cycles are disrupted. He told me it was very likely that as my weight loss slows or when I stop losing weight altogether (ie hit goal), the normalcy should return. Whew. I can live with that. I should know the results of my bloodwork soon, and I’m anxious and nervous about the cholesterol. I have a confession to make…I haven’t been eating much lately–only one zero carb meal a day for the last several days, and some sunflower seeds in the evening for my carbs. And the scale isn’t budging. I think it’s a starvation mode thing. I know I have to eat more, and more frequently…it’s not a problem at work, just a problem on my days off. It’s not so much intentional as situational–when I work, I have food pre-made and ready to go (I make several days worth at once), but when I’m off, I have to cook it and I never feel motivated enough to cook 2 or 3 meals a day. Plus, I’m starting to go into "ack-no-more-meat-please" mode ’cause I’ve been eating so much plain unjazzed meat. It’s been over 5 months on LC now; I think it’s about time I became a little more confident about my progress and stop obsessing about every little carb and finally start raising my levels in few-carb increments very slowly…maybe it’s time for me to add some tomatoes to my salad and meatzza, for example. Wha’dya think? Thanks for reading, ~Jennifer 260/194.5/180 (mini-goal #3)
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi all, Had my physical today! OMG I fit into the hospital gown! It tied behind me without stretching and showing skin! …snippage It’s been over 5 months on LC now; I think it’s about time I became a little more confident about my progress and stop obsessing about every little carb and finally start raising my levels in few-carb increments very slowly…maybe it’s time for me to add some tomatoes to my salad and meatzza, for example. Wha’dya think? Thanks for reading, ~Jennifer 260/194.5/180 (mini-goal #3)
IMO a big mistake to keep carbohydrates cut to the essentially zero limits over the longterm. Why? First the body will habituate to eating patterns and level off to a point of equilibrium. Secondly, any weightloss diet will over time reduce thyroid performance and needs to be restoked either by drugs and/or with a change in diet. I’d say go for it and add about 5 grams worth of fresh tomato to your pizza. Then experiment with an addition of other green leafy and cruciferous vegetables. Not only will you benefit from the nutrients. You will be able to add greater variety to what you’re eating. Good luck. Lee Rodgers
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Hi Jennifer! You’re making great progress. I just wanted to interject some points about PCOS and meds, from my BTDT point of view: 1) For *MOST* women with PCOS, bc pills cause more problems than they solve. You’re not *regulating* hormones, you’re just throwing in more of them. For an estrogen-dominant PCOS woman, the pill can be a disaster waiting to happen, with Ortho Tri-Cyclen being the worst. (Combination pills that add more estrogen to the body tend to cause PCOS symptoms to worsen.) There are now bc pills made specifically for women with PCOS (name brand Yasmin in the US, and Diane in Canada and the UK) which help to alleviate the symptomsof PCOS, including hair overgrowth and skin discoloration. 2) If you do have PCOS, and are insulin resistant, you WANT Glucophage like plants want water! It will help you lose weight, help regulate your cycles, and reduce your cholesterol levels, because it helps reduce your body’s insulin resistance. It’s especially helpful in returning regularity. After several months, most women notice less hair and skin discolouration, too. 3) The most common medication for reducing hair growth is spironolactone. While it often helps reduce the growth, and sometimes lowers blood pressure, it has the nasty side-effect of causing weight gain and/or preventing loss. Oh, and BTW, fat cells don’t just *store* estrogen, they make it, too… but that is often told to overweight women as a cover for whatever is really going on. It took me 8 years and 33 specialists to figure that out. — Cassie 300+/279/150 – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi all, Had my physical today! OMG I fit into the hospital gown! It tied behind me without stretching and showing skin! That was the first proclamation I made when my doctor walked in…I fit into the gown! He said he’s thrilled with my progress and asked him how I was doing it. I kind of lowered my head said "Please don’t yell at me….low-carb" (never know how some doctors are going to react to it, ya know? Some folks here have very supportive docs, others have docs totally opposed to it). He smiled and said "Now Jennifer, have I EVER yelled at you?" He actually didn’t say a bad word about it, other than to remind me it’s important for me to take supplements. He agrees with my PCOS assumption, and did some special bloodwork to check for testosterone levels. However, he said the first thing he would do for anyone with PCOS is to put them on the pill to try to regulate estrogen, and I’m already on that. Then he mentioned Glucophage for insulin resistance, but I told him I didn’t want any meds for PCOS (if I have it) at least right now, ’cause I don’t want ANYTHING that could potentially change my body chemistry while I’m in weight-loss mode; and let’s face it, if I have PCOS, I’ve had it since I was a teenager and a few more months of no meds for it isn’t going to hurt. He also mentioned a drug that helps with excessive hair growth–that’s something I might consider down the road. As far as my totally abnormal TOM’s go, he explained it very simply: estrogen accumulates (okay that’s not the word, but I’m a laywoman) in the fatty tissue and that’s one reason cycles are regulated by the pill. When the fatty tissue is lessened by large amounts of weight loss, it doesn’t accumulate in the tissue, and the cycles are disrupted. He told me it was very likely that as my weight loss slows or when I stop losing weight altogether (ie hit goal), the normalcy should return. Whew. I can live with that. I should know the results of my bloodwork soon, and I’m anxious and nervous about the cholesterol. I have a confession to make…I haven’t been eating much lately–only one zero carb meal a day for the last several days, and some sunflower seeds in the evening for my carbs. And the scale isn’t budging. I think it’s a starvation mode thing. I know I have to eat more, and more frequently…it’s not a problem at work, just a problem on my days off. It’s not so much intentional as situational–when I work, I have food pre-made and ready to go (I make several days worth at once), but when I’m off, I have to cook it and I never feel motivated enough to cook 2 or 3 meals a day. Plus, I’m starting to go into "ack-no-more-meat-please" mode ’cause I’ve been eating so much plain unjazzed meat. It’s been over 5 months on LC now; I think it’s about time I became a little more confident about my progress and stop obsessing about every little carb and finally start raising my levels in few-carb increments very slowly…maybe it’s time for me to add some tomatoes to my salad and meatzza, for example. Wha’dya think? Thanks for reading, ~Jennifer 260/194.5/180 (mini-goal #3)
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Woo hoo for you Jennifer — Polly (173/166/MG-155/130) Start 1/1/2002
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi all, Had my physical today! OMG I fit into the hospital gown! It tied behind me without stretching and showing skin! That was the first proclamation I made when my doctor walked in…I fit into the gown! He said he’s thrilled with my progress and asked him how I was doing it. I kind of lowered my head said "Please don’t yell at me….low-carb" (never know how some doctors are going to react to it, ya know? Some folks here have very supportive docs, others have docs totally opposed to it). He smiled and said "Now Jennifer, have I EVER yelled at you?" He actually didn’t say a bad word about it, other than to remind me it’s important for me to take supplements. He agrees with my PCOS assumption, and did some special bloodwork to check for testosterone levels. However, he said the first thing he would do for anyone with PCOS is to put them on the pill to try to regulate estrogen, and I’m already on that. Then he mentioned Glucophage for insulin resistance, but I told him I didn’t want any meds for PCOS (if I have it) at least right now, ’cause I don’t want ANYTHING that could potentially change my body chemistry while I’m in weight-loss mode; and let’s face it, if I have PCOS, I’ve had it since I was a teenager and a few more months of no meds for it isn’t going to hurt. He also mentioned a drug that helps with excessive hair growth–that’s something I might consider down the road. As far as my totally abnormal TOM’s go, he explained it very simply: estrogen accumulates (okay that’s not the word, but I’m a laywoman) in the fatty tissue and that’s one reason cycles are regulated by the pill. When the fatty tissue is lessened by large amounts of weight loss, it doesn’t accumulate in the tissue, and the cycles are disrupted. He told me it was very likely that as my weight loss slows or when I stop losing weight altogether (ie hit goal), the normalcy should return. Whew. I can live with that. I should know the results of my bloodwork soon, and I’m anxious and nervous about the cholesterol. I have a confession to make…I haven’t been eating much lately–only one zero carb meal a day for the last several days, and some sunflower seeds in the evening for my carbs. And the scale isn’t budging. I think it’s a starvation mode thing. I know I have to eat more, and more frequently…it’s not a problem at work, just a problem on my days off. It’s not so much intentional as situational–when I work, I have food pre-made and ready to go (I make several days worth at once), but when I’m off, I have to cook it and I never feel motivated enough to cook 2 or 3 meals a day. Plus, I’m starting to go into "ack-no-more-meat-please" mode ’cause I’ve been eating so much plain unjazzed meat. It’s been over 5 months on LC now; I think it’s about time I became a little more confident about my progress and stop obsessing about every little carb and finally start raising my levels in few-carb increments very slowly…maybe it’s time for me to add some tomatoes to my salad and meatzza, for example. Wha’dya think? Thanks for reading, ~Jennifer 260/194.5/180 (mini-goal #3)
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Jenn, Here are a couple of really good web sites that have *free* LC recipes that might help move expand your LC horizons beyond that of a tomato! http://www.whooshfriends.com http://www.lowcarb.ca Zoe (177/151/135 ) If you have a question about LC books, ask me! I’ve read ‘em all! If you know of a new one, tell me! I would love to read it! My favorite LC book at the moment: Low Carb Success: How to get the Most Out Of Your Low Carb Diet (www.lowcarbsuccess.net) – A good book for newbies! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Plus, I’m starting to go into "ack-no-more-meat-please" mode ’cause I’ve been eating so much plain unjazzed meat. It’s been over 5 months on LC now; I think it’s about time I became a little more confident about my progress and stop obsessing about every little carb and finally start raising my levels in few-carb increments very slowly…maybe it’s time for me to add some tomatoes to my salad and meatzza, for example. Wha’dya think?
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* Congratulations on your weight loss and the pleasant good doctor’s visit. I love the gown story.
Polly (173/166/MG-155/130) Start 1/1/2002 Hi all, I have a confession to make…I haven’t been eating much lately–only one zero carb meal a day for the last several days, and some sunflower seeds in the evening for my carbs.
* Increase carbs modestly. Eat cooked greens, as well. These have a few carbs, but other essentials to good health. You want to become an efficient fat burner not a stalled one. Tthe scale isn’t budging. I think it’s a starvation mode thing. Plus, I’m starting to go into "ack-no-more-meat-please" mode ’cause I’ve been eating so much plain unjazzed meat.
* As you say, jazz up that meat! Also, don’t just do red meat. Regularly switch off between meat/fish/poulty for variety. It’s been over 5 months on LC now; I think it’s about time I became a little more confident about my progress and stop obsessing about every little carb
* Yes. You’ve been doing very well. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – ~Jennifer 260/194.5/180 (mini-goal #3)
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Jenn, it is so nice to have a doctor that will work with you. I’m glad you had a good visit. Isn’t it just so cool to find something like the hospital gown example to remind us we are successful at this? Keep up the good work. BTW, hey lady, you better be eating better than you mentioned. Take good care of yourself Jenn. ConnieW
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi all, Had my physical today! OMG I fit into the hospital gown! It tied behind me without stretching and showing skin! That was the first proclamation I made when my doctor walked in…I fit into the gown! He said he’s thrilled with my progress and asked him how I was doing it. I kind of lowered my head said "Please don’t yell at me….low-carb" (never know how some doctors are going to react to it, ya know? Some folks here have very supportive docs, others have docs totally opposed to it). He smiled and said "Now Jennifer, have I EVER yelled at you?" He actually didn’t say a bad word about it, other than to remind me it’s important for me to take supplements. He agrees with my PCOS assumption, and did some special bloodwork to check for testosterone levels. However, he said the first thing he would do for anyone with PCOS is to put them on the pill to try to regulate estrogen, and I’m already on that. Then he mentioned Glucophage for insulin resistance, but I told him I didn’t want any meds for PCOS (if I have it) at least right now, ’cause I don’t want ANYTHING that could potentially change my body chemistry while I’m in weight-loss mode; and let’s face it, if I have PCOS, I’ve had it since I was a teenager and a few more months of no meds for it isn’t going to hurt. He also mentioned a drug that helps with excessive hair growth–that’s something I might consider down the road. As far as my totally abnormal TOM’s go, he explained it very simply: estrogen accumulates (okay that’s not the word, but I’m a laywoman) in the fatty tissue and that’s one reason cycles are regulated by the pill. When the fatty tissue is lessened by large amounts of weight loss, it doesn’t accumulate in the tissue, and the cycles are disrupted. He told me it was very likely that as my weight loss slows or when I stop losing weight altogether (ie hit goal), the normalcy should return. Whew. I can live with that. I should know the results of my bloodwork soon, and I’m anxious and nervous about the cholesterol. I have a confession to make…I haven’t been eating much lately–only one zero carb meal a day for the last several days, and some sunflower seeds in the evening for my carbs. And the scale isn’t budging. I think it’s a starvation mode thing. I know I have to eat more, and more frequently…it’s not a problem at work, just a problem on my days off. It’s not so much intentional as situational–when I work, I have food pre-made and ready to go (I make several days worth at once), but when I’m off, I have to cook it and I never feel motivated enough to cook 2 or 3 meals a day. Plus, I’m starting to go into "ack-no-more-meat-please" mode ’cause I’ve been eating so much plain unjazzed meat. It’s been over 5 months on LC now; I think it’s about time I became a little more confident about my progress and stop obsessing about every little carb and finally start raising my levels in few-carb increments very slowly…maybe it’s time for me to add some tomatoes to my salad and meatzza, for example. Wha’dya think? Thanks for reading, ~Jennifer 260/194.5/180 (mini-goal #3)
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Hi all, Had my physical today! OMG I fit into the hospital gown! It tied behind me without stretching and showing skin! That was the first proclamation I made when my doctor walked in…I fit into the gown! He said he’s thrilled with my progress and asked him how I was doing it. I kind of lowered my head said "Please don’t yell at me….low-carb" (never know how some doctors are going to react to it, ya know? Some folks here have very supportive docs, others have docs totally opposed to it). He smiled and said "Now Jennifer, have I EVER yelled at you?" He actually didn’t say a bad word about it, other than to remind me it’s important for me to take supplements. He agrees with my PCOS assumption, and did some special bloodwork to check for testosterone levels. However, he said the first thing he would do for anyone with PCOS is to put them on the pill to try to regulate estrogen, and I’m already on that. Then he mentioned Glucophage for insulin resistance, but I told him I didn’t want any meds for PCOS (if I have it) at least right now, ’cause I don’t want ANYTHING that could potentially change my body chemistry while I’m in weight-loss mode; and let’s face it, if I have PCOS, I’ve had it since I was a teenager and a few more months of no meds for it isn’t going to hurt. He also mentioned a drug that helps with excessive hair growth–that’s something I might consider down the road. As far as my totally abnormal TOM’s go, he explained it very simply: estrogen accumulates (okay that’s not the word, but I’m a laywoman) in the fatty tissue and that’s one reason cycles are regulated by the pill. When the fatty tissue is lessened by large amounts of weight loss, it doesn’t accumulate in the tissue, and the cycles are disrupted. He told me it was very likely that as my weight loss slows or when I stop losing weight altogether (ie hit goal), the normalcy should return. Whew. I can live with that. I should know the results of my bloodwork soon, and I’m anxious and nervous about the cholesterol. I have a confession to make…I haven’t been eating much lately–only one zero carb meal a day for the last several days, and some sunflower seeds in the evening for my carbs. And the scale isn’t budging. I think it’s a starvation mode thing. I know I have to eat more, and more frequently…it’s not a problem at work, just a problem on my days off. It’s not so much intentional as situational–when I work, I have food pre-made and ready to go (I make several days worth at once), but when I’m off, I have to cook it and I never feel motivated enough to cook 2 or 3 meals a day. Plus, I’m starting to go into "ack-no-more-meat-please" mode ’cause I’ve been eating so much plain unjazzed meat. It’s been over 5 months on LC now; I think it’s about time I became a little more confident about my progress and stop obsessing about every little carb and finally start raising my levels in few-carb increments very slowly…maybe it’s time for me to add some tomatoes to my salad and meatzza, for example. Wha’dya think? Thanks for reading, ~Jennifer 260/194.5/180 (mini-goal #3)
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Hi Jennifer, The drug for hair is probably Spironolactone. It is a mild diuretic. I think it works better on woman who dont have such a pronounced hair problem and are maybe in the early stages of PCOS. It didnt work for me but I think I used it pretty late in the game if you know what I mean. Dr Atkins makes reference to it in the new book as one of the potential drug stallers along with HRT and beta blocker blood pressure type medicine. I have been on all of them. I cold turkeyed my BP med last month and told my doc about it this week. My BP was 122/74. No need for BP meds. You are wise to thoroughly investigate meds, read Dr. A’s book, and confer with your physician before ingesting chemicals. I hate drugs!!!! USe the internet, ask questions and ask them again!!!!! I got lymphedema in my lower belly real bad after surgery and was suppose to take HCTZ ( a bit stronger water pill) once a day. I’m leary of that too so take one a week to tap my belly off when it gets so hard. It is my hope that when I get thin enough the fat will be gone enough in my apron area and will not allow water to be held in it any longer There are many PCOs Sufferers who are on Glucophage for their symptoms relief regarding the Insulin Resistancy. How well the LC and Glucophage aid in weight loss is in question with many professionals and some swear by it. I asked my doc this week if he thought I would lose weight faster if I went back on Glucophage with the LC’ing. He said I dont know that is one thing I will address with the man at this conference. My doc is going to a conference this next month and there is a special speaker by the name of Dr. Matthew Riddle who is reknowned for his diabetic and Insulin Resistancy knowledge. My doc has a special interest in Diabetes and IR but admites to not knowing everything when it comes to combining it with PCOS. He said Gluc may very well help with my obvious metabolic resistancy. I actually hope you dont have PCOS, but if you are early in its stages hopefully your doctor will do something for you. I spent many years with people shaking their head at me telling me to lose weight and them putting me on Provera and BCP’s. You may even think about looking into seeing a reproductive Endocrinologist also. My Best Wishes to You Laureen http://community.webtv.net/larryandlaureen/LaureensLowCarb
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