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Sushi-Boy gets a 5.1 on the A1C thingie

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I told them i want off the meds or atleast a reduction. I also promised my A1C will not get higher if meds are cut or removed. — http://www.diabetes.org Sushi-Boy Type – 2 Dx’d January 27, 2003 also try alt.support.diabetes.uk misc.health.diabetes

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Hi Sushi, That is totally brilliant, m8! Well done. For myself, if I got that, I would not ask the doc`s opinion; I`d just go ahead with the reduction. If it is as good next time, then you might think about leaving the meds altogether. — As always, wishing you well Al, Melton Mowbray, UK Control Beef Lente 1x Low-Carb http://www.diabetesincontrol.com http://www.iddtinternational.org/uk "Do, or do not. There is no try" Yoda The Empire Strikes Back

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posted this… I told them i want off the meds or atleast a reduction. I also promised my A1C will not get higher if meds are cut or removed.

That’s a non-diabetic a1c. Well done. Ratty — Now in my 40th year of providing lunacy to the masses www.flyingrat.net

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – : : : I told them i want off the meds or atleast a reduction. : I also promised my A1C will not get higher if meds are cut or removed. : : — : http://www.diabetes.org : Sushi-Boy : Type – 2 : Dx’d January 27, 2003 : also try : alt.support.diabetes.uk : misc.health.diabetes : : Hi Sushi, : That is totally brilliant, m8! Well done. For myself, if I got that, I would : not ask the doc`s opinion; I`d just go ahead with the reduction. If it is as : good next time, then you might think about leaving the meds altogether. : — : As always, wishing you well : Al, Melton Mowbray, UK : Control Beef Lente 1x Low-Carb : http://www.diabetesincontrol.com : http://www.iddtinternational.org/uk : "Do, or do not. There is no try" Yoda : The Empire Strikes Back : Hey Al wuts up. lets say you were taking 1000mg of metformin 2 times a day and 4mg avandia 2 times a day. what would you do at this point? also you have no idea just how poorly i have been eating ( as a person ) for the last 2 months. my numbers say good of course but not losing anymore weight. I am sure i can reduce the meds and still maintain a good A1C. PS… i know you are not a doctor but i have faith in your knowledge of such things. i will reduce the meds with or without your help. so please help me. Sushi-Boy Sorry Sushi,

I did not explain myself very well. I meant I agree with your idea of reducing the meds, I think it`s a good idea. Halve them both, and test extra times to make sure you stay in the 5% club. I think you will stay in the club, because I also have faith in you. Next A1c you`ll know whether to stay on the halved dose or drop the dose completely. As you know, exercise will help, and so will dropping your weight, but at the moment I think it is likely that you are converting fat cells into muscle cells, so your weight looks the same. Is that right? because you will know better than I can. If I remember, you are or were an body-builder? So you know more about how to exercise, but maybe I know more about how helpful with the insulin resistance thingy the extra muscles can be. Then again, maybe I don`t, because you sure are making good progress with this beast we got. Sorry I didn`t explain it better first time. — As always, wishing you well Al, Melton Mowbray, UK Control Beef Lente 1x Low-Carb http://www.diabetesincontrol.com http://www.iddtinternational.org/uk "Do, or do not. There is no try" Yoda The Empire Strikes Back

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– http://www.diabetes.org Sushi-Boy Type – 2 Dx’d January 27, 2003 also try alt.support.diabetes.uk misc.health.diabetes

: posted this… : I told them i want off the meds or atleast a reduction. : I also promised my A1C will not get higher if meds are cut or removed. : : That’s a non-diabetic a1c. Well done. : : Ratty : — : Now in my 40th year of providing lunacy to the masses : : www.flyingrat.net thank you thank you very much

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: : I told them i want off the meds or atleast a reduction. : I also promised my A1C will not get higher if meds are cut or removed. : : — : http://www.diabetes.org : Sushi-Boy : Type – 2 : Dx’d January 27, 2003 : also try : alt.support.diabetes.uk : misc.health.diabetes : : Hi Sushi, : That is totally brilliant, m8! Well done. For myself, if I got that, I would : not ask the doc`s opinion; I`d just go ahead with the reduction. If it is as : good next time, then you might think about leaving the meds altogether. : — : As always, wishing you well : Al, Melton Mowbray, UK : Control Beef Lente 1x Low-Carb : http://www.diabetesincontrol.com : http://www.iddtinternational.org/uk : "Do, or do not. There is no try" Yoda : The Empire Strikes Back : Hey Al wuts up. lets say you were taking 1000mg of metformin 2 times a day and 4mg avandia 2 times a day. what would you do at this point? also you have no idea just how poorly i have been eating ( as a person ) for the last 2 months. my numbers say good of course but not losing anymore weight. I am sure i can reduce the meds and still maintain a good A1C. PS… i know you are not a doctor but i have faith in your knowledge of such things. i will reduce the meds with or without your help. so please help me. Sushi-Boy

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Well Done my friend!!

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Great results, well done! Can’t comment on the drugs as I do not use those. I would give the diet side some attention from what you say – probably feeling hungry and maybe not enjoying the new foods as much as the old? Makes it much harder to keep to the diet if you don’t enjoy what you eat. I like some of the low calorie pasta’s they have got bulk, are low calorie (and carb.) with a low glycemic index. Anyway, good luck and keep up the good work. Pete F

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – — http://www.diabetes.org Sushi-Boy Type – 2 Dx’d January 27, 2003 also try alt.support.diabetes.uk misc.health.diabetes Well Done my friend!! I’d love to get one like that. BG’s at the moment aren’t that good cos I’m still waiting to see the specialist – just took it and it’s a very very bad 12.2 is that 12.2 uk numbers or is that us. if it is US come on Babe you can do better. what is it you think you are doing or not doing to get those numbers? can you change it? and most important – will you change it? you can do it Babe just takes willpower and knowledge to be healthier and happier and live longer. its worth it. Sushi

You see I also have PCOS (Poly Cystic Ovarian Syndrome) – makes it harder for me because I have hormones going all over the place, lots of pain and the insulin resistance is a bit worse than with diabetes alone. They’re quite similar but we tend to get deposits of insulin in the soft areas of our skin because there’s too much and it doesn’t move around – so giving me Gliclazide isn’t really what I need – I need Avandia……. but I’ll be discussing that with the specialist.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – — http://www.diabetes.org Sushi-Boy Type – 2 Dx’d January 27, 2003 also try alt.support.diabetes.uk misc.health.diabetes Well Done my friend!! I’d love to get one like that. BG’s at the moment aren’t that good cos I’m still waiting to see the specialist – just took it and it’s a very very bad 12.2 is that 12.2 uk numbers or is that us. if it is US come on Babe you can do better. what is it you think you are doing or not doing to get those numbers? can you change it? and most important – will you change it? get you can do it Babe just takes willpower and knowledge to be healthier and happier and live longer. its worth it. Sushi

Yeah I know they’re not good numbers but I can’t get them down any further without the help of my specialist and I have another 3 weeks or so before I can see him. I have a cr*p doctor who only gave me Gliclazide one a day – and he said it wasn’t enough, but decided he wasn’t prepared to give You see I also have PCOS (Poly Cystic Ovarian Syndrome) – makes it harder for me because I have hormones going all over the place, lots of pain and the insulin resistance is a bit worse than with diabetes alone. They’re quite similar but we tend to get deposits of insulin in the soft areas of our skin because there’s too much and it doesn’t move around – so giving me Gliclazide isn’t really what I need – I need Avandia……. but I’ll be discussing that with the specialist. What is it you think the specialist will do to help you? i don’t even know what a specialist does. and why does it take so long to see him? my old primary doctor was very old ide say close to 80 even tho he looked in his 60’s. i seen some awards hanging on his wall and from the dates on that he had to be either in his early 80’s or late 70’s. he always had patients lined up but took a liking to my wife and I. we lived a block away and soon as we would call he would say come on down. i was very happy with him over the years – he seen me in my prime and my worst. he was a little too relaxed and i noticed his nurse would stand over him with a watchful eye. i guess he wasn’t what he used to be. i wish i could have seen him then and get another just like him. i had a cyst removed from my back a few years ago. this thing grew in not out. being i was even bigger at the time this thing was enormous. it was the size of big avocado and was as ugly as this creature i seen in a movie years ago. i think the movie was Big trouble in Tokyo or something. Goldie Horns boy friend was in it i forgot his name. Kurt Russell.. yea that’s it. it was a pretty good family type comedy. well anyway it was that ugly. Well time for lunch. im so happy today with my A1C i cant get any work done Sushi

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Hello Al: Will you help me to understand how metformin works and what someone has to do to be less dependent on it? you don’t have to get into the heavy tech stuff unless you want to. i just want to understand it a little bit. — http://www.diabetes.org Sushi-Boy Type – 2 — Dx’d January 27, 2003 A1C = 5.1 July 15, 2003

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Er Sushi, Metaphorically speaking you just caught me with my pants down. Insulin I know, sulphonylureas I know, but very little about the other meds. The best I can manage, is Metformin in about 17% of cases causes gastric upsets if started at a high dose. Metformin attacks insulin resistance, so it is very unlikely to cause a hypo. Metformin helps to protect the heart, and it might protect the arteries and veins, bit I don`t know for sure. I think Ratty will know a lot more than me. — As always, wishing you well Al, Melton Mowbray, UK Control Beef Lente 1x Low-Carb http://www.diabetesincontrol.com http://www.iddtinternational.org/uk "Do, or do not. There is no try" Yoda The Empire Strikes Back

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Metformin lowers blood glucose levels by decreasing excess production of glucose by the liver and increasing the uptake of glucose by cells. In the major UKPDS study, it was the only drug that reduced diabetes-related death rates, heart attacks and strokes. Metformin shuts off the liver’s over production of glucose. It reduces the amount of insulin needed. I wouldn’t advise you to drop the Metformin unless you were on a lower carb diet. I think you would be setting yourself up for failure if you drop the Met while still having the amount of carbs you do. But that is only *my* opinion.

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– http://www.diabetes.org Sushi-Boy Type – 2 Dx’d January 27, 2003 also try alt.support.diabetes.uk misc.health.diabetes

: : : : : : : : I told them i want off the meds or atleast a reduction. : : I also promised my A1C will not get higher if meds are cut or removed. : : : : — : : http://www.diabetes.org : : Sushi-Boy : : Type – 2 : : Dx’d January 27, 2003 : : also try : : alt.support.diabetes.uk : : misc.health.diabetes : : : : Hi Sushi, : : That is totally brilliant, m8! Well done. For myself, if I got that, I : would : : not ask the doc`s opinion; I`d just go ahead with the reduction. If it : is as : : good next time, then you might think about leaving the meds altogether. : : — : : As always, wishing you well : : Al, Melton Mowbray, UK : : Control Beef Lente 1x Low-Carb : : http://www.diabetesincontrol.com : : http://www.iddtinternational.org/uk : : "Do, or do not. There is no try" Yoda : : The Empire Strikes Back : : : Hey Al wuts up. : lets say you were taking 1000mg of metformin 2 times a day : and 4mg avandia 2 times a day. what would you do at this point? : also you have no idea just how poorly i have been eating ( as a person ) : for the last 2 months. my numbers say good of course but not losing : anymore : weight. I am sure i can reduce the meds and still maintain a good A1C. : PS… i know you are not a doctor but i have faith in your knowledge of : such things. : i will reduce the meds with or without your help. so please help me. : Sushi-Boy : : Sorry Sushi, : I did not explain myself very well. I meant I agree with your idea of : reducing the meds, I think it`s a good idea. Halve them both, and test extra : times to make sure you stay in the 5% club. I think you will stay in the : club, because I also have faith in you. i think maybe it was me that didnt express myself completely. I worded it that way because i didnt want you to feel like you would be taking responsibility but more so just helping someone who was going to do something anyway. i will post the rest of the results from the blood work. thanx for the faith it made me feel good. : : Next A1c you`ll know whether to stay on the halved dose or drop the dose : completely. As you know, exercise will help, and so will dropping your : weight, but at the moment I think it is likely that you are converting fat : cells into muscle cells, so your weight looks the same. Is that right? for the last 2 months i have not lost wieght but still 65 pounds lighter. i am much more active now than before dx’d. i think most of the change is in my legs from stair climbing and eating less fat. : because you will know better than I can. : : If I remember, you are or were an body-builder? not pro or anything as a matter of fact i continued studying body building and nutrition long after i stopped and know much more than ever. when i was training i was training 4 hours a day 3 – 4 times a week. and that is too much for body building. 1 hour a day would have been much better. So you know more about how : to exercise, but maybe I know more about how helpful with the insulin : resistance thingy the extra muscles can be. thingy lol.. o yes Al i have trust in that you know much more about diabetes thingies than i ever will and probably about many medical issuses. my bad memory is a major factor cause i shouldnt be calling it thingies after all i have read in this group and other places. i am not a know it all when it come to working out but i am confident in the material i have read and who has written it. I wish you where able to read a book called sliced or sliced 2 its a fantastic book. but it is not made for diabetics. but some where out there is a diabetic body builder i forgot his name all i remember is i think he was black. do you know the difference between black body builders and white body builders? lol no its not a joke. just wondering if you know. Then again, maybe I don`t, lol being very modest now arent we.. yes you do Al : because you sure are making good progress with this beast we got. when i was a lifting wieghts like i used to. it took a lot of willpower in the begining ( the hardest part is just getting started ) but it does take will power to continue. i stopped working out when i started to party everyday. well anyway like my boy Arnold Swartyneggar said… to become an actor i used the same willpower as a body builder to do my very best as an actor. lol is he a good actor i dont know but i love his movies. : : Sorry I didn`t explain it better first time. i dont know what you mean by that Al. sometimes with out the facial expresstion and tone of voice its hard to understand just what is being meant. and my poor writting skills make my posts harder to know just what i mean and feel while writting. thanks for your help Al Sushi – ok spell check aint working lol so here goes anyway : — : As always, wishing you well : Al, Melton Mowbray, UK : Control Beef Lente 1x Low-Carb : http://www.diabetesincontrol.com : http://www.iddtinternational.org/uk : "Do, or do not. There is no try" Yoda : The Empire Strikes Back : :

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– http://www.diabetes.org Sushi-Boy Type – 2 Dx’d January 27, 2003 also try alt.support.diabetes.uk misc.health.diabetes

Well Done my friend!! I’d love to get one like that. BG’s at the moment aren’t that good cos I’m still waiting to see the specialist – just took it and it’s a very very bad 12.2 is that 12.2 uk numbers or is that us. if it is US come on Babe you can do better. what is it you think you are doing or not doing to get those numbers? can you change it? and most important – will you change it? you can do it Babe just takes willpower and knowledge to be healthier and happier and live longer. its worth it. Sushi

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Al: as you can see in the other news group it is happening again. i am about to turn into a person you are not going to like very much. so i don’t think you are going to want to help me much longer. so i will just bow out now and post in a way and with an attitude that what they say does not bother me. Take care Al. worst part about being diabetic for me was finding that other newsgroup. this is how it always has started… they can not be around people they do not like with out insulting them. — http://www.diabetes.org Sushi-Boy Type – 2 — Dx’d January 27, 2003 A1C = 5.1 July 15 also try alt.support.diabetes.uk misc.health.diabetes

: Hello Al: : : Will you help me to understand how metformin works : and what someone has to do to be less dependent on it? : you don’t have to get into the heavy tech stuff unless you want to. : i just want to understand it a little bit. : : : Er Sushi, : Metaphorically speaking you just caught me with my pants down. Insulin I : know, sulphonylureas I know, but very little about the other meds. The best : I can manage, is : : Metformin in about 17% of cases causes gastric upsets if started at a high : dose. : Metformin attacks insulin resistance, so it is very unlikely to cause a : hypo. : Metformin helps to protect the heart, and it might protect the arteries and : veins, bit I don`t know for sure. : : I think Ratty will know a lot more than me. : — : As always, wishing you well : Al, Melton Mowbray, UK : Control Beef Lente 1x Low-Carb : http://www.diabetesincontrol.com : http://www.iddtinternational.org/uk : "Do, or do not. There is no try" Yoda : The Empire Strikes Back : :

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Al: as you can see in the other news group it is happening again. i am about to turn into a person you are not going to like very much. so i don’t think you are going to want to help me much longer. so i will just bow out now and post in a way and with an attitude that what they say does not bother me. Take care Al. worst part about being diabetic for me was finding that other newsgroup. this is how it always has started… they can not be around people they do not like with out insulting them. — http://www.diabetes.org Sushi-Boy Type – 2 — Dx’d January 27, 2003 A1C = 5.1 July 15 also try alt.support.diabetes.uk misc.health.diabetes

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – : : Hello Al: : : Will you help me to understand how metformin works : and what someone has to do to be less dependent on it? : you don’t have to get into the heavy tech stuff unless you want to. : i just want to understand it a little bit. : : : Er Sushi, : Metaphorically speaking you just caught me with my pants down. Insulin I : know, sulphonylureas I know, but very little about the other meds. The best : I can manage, is : : Metformin in about 17% of cases causes gastric upsets if started at a high : dose. : Metformin attacks insulin resistance, so it is very unlikely to cause a : hypo. : Metformin helps to protect the heart, and it might protect the arteries and : veins, bit I don`t know for sure. : : I think Ratty will know a lot more than me. : — : As always, wishing you well : Al, Melton Mowbray, UK : Control Beef Lente 1x Low-Carb : http://www.diabetesincontrol.com : http://www.iddtinternational.org/uk : "Do, or do not. There is no try" Yoda : The Empire Strikes Back : :

Hi Sushi, Yes, I noticed, and I was so disgusted that I unsubscribed from asd. Might get rid of mhd as well. Prissysilly and Asleepybrain were two, but several told Prissysilly she was wrong. Do you remember Colleen, who attacked you, I attacked her for it, and now she is defending you. So some learn. Anyways, there is nothing wrong with your posts here on asduk, and I should hate to see you change, and Peter has told you he has learned a lot from a thread about exercise motivation that you started. Keep with *us*, Sushi, you know you are welcome. — As always, wishing you well Al, Melton Mowbray, UK Control Beef Lente 1x Low-Carb http://www.diabetesincontrol.com uk.net.beginners http://www.iddtinternational.org/uk "Do, or do not. There is no try" Yoda The Empire Strikes Back

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Sushi, You have started and contributed to a lot of threads here – I for one won’t forget the ‘diabolic angels’ image. Your open and give a lot to this group and encourage some of us out of our shells too – not that some here need any encouragement . Whenever I post I always, read and re-read and attempt not to give offence. After posting though I still sometimes notice something and cringe at what I have written. Its still worthing posting though, nothing ventured nothing gained as they say. Anyway no reason to change for us. All the Best Pete F

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: Sushi, : : You have started and contributed to a lot of threads here – I for one won’t : forget the ‘diabolic angels’ image. Your open and give a lot to this group : and encourage some of us out of our shells too – not that some here need any : encouragement . : Thanks Pete it felt good to read that. : Whenever I post I always, read and re-read and attempt not to give offence. yep with out the voice or facial expressions some posts can be misinterpited (lol hope spell check sees that one.) : After posting though I still sometimes notice something and cringe at what I : have written. i have 2 posts that do that to me. Its still worthing posting though, nothing ventured nothing : gained as they say. : : Anyway no reason to change for us. I dont think the manner in which i have always posted here will ever change. unless they bring that fight here and even then i will try to only stick to playing in that badly infested newsgroup. Thanks Pet Sushi : : All the Best : : Pete F :

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– http://www.diabetes.org Sushi-Boy Type – 2 — Dx’d January 27, 2003 A1C = 5.1 July 15 also try alt.support.diabetes.uk misc.health.diabetes

: Al: : as you can see in the other news group it is happening again. : i am about to turn into a person you are not going to like very much. : so i don’t think you are going to want to help me much longer. : so i will just bow out now and post in a way and with an attitude : that what they say does not bother me. Take care Al. : worst part about being diabetic for me was finding that other newsgroup. : this is how it always has started… they can not be around people : they do not like with out insulting them. : : — : http://www.diabetes.org : Sushi-Boy : Type – 2 — : Dx’d January 27, 2003 : A1C = 5.1 July 15 : also try : alt.support.diabetes.uk : misc.health.diabetes : : : : : Hello Al: : : : : Will you help me to understand how metformin works : : and what someone has to do to be less dependent on it? : : you don’t have to get into the heavy tech stuff unless you want to. : : i just want to understand it a little bit. : : : : : : Er Sushi, : : Metaphorically speaking you just caught me with my pants down. Insulin I : : know, sulphonylureas I know, but very little about the other meds. The : best : : I can manage, is : : : : Metformin in about 17% of cases causes gastric upsets if started at a : high : : dose. : : Metformin attacks insulin resistance, so it is very unlikely to cause a : : hypo. : : Metformin helps to protect the heart, and it might protect the arteries : and : : veins, bit I don`t know for sure. : : : : I think Ratty will know a lot more than me. : : — : : As always, wishing you well : : Al, Melton Mowbray, UK : : Control Beef Lente 1x Low-Carb : : http://www.diabetesincontrol.com : : http://www.iddtinternational.org/uk : : "Do, or do not. There is no try" Yoda : : The Empire Strikes Back : : : : : Hi Sushi, : Yes, I noticed, and I was so disgusted that I unsubscribed from asd. lol sorry you are not blind to the truth and sorry if it has taken away any friends. Might : get rid of mhd as well. i noticed i am ingnored mostly in that group. I dont mind that as you have seen I cant really help you guys much that know so much more than i do. some however have contributed to some of my threads for that i am greatful. better to be ignored than insulted. Prissysilly and Asleepybrain were two, but several : told Prissysilly she was wrong. Do you remember Colleen, who attacked you, I : attacked her for it, and now she is defending you. So some learn. no i have not seen colleen defend me at all. yes she is speaking the truth about the fight those of us on meds take. while i am not a drinker and have not been for some 13 years. the days i did drink till the sun came up where about 3 to 4 times a year. i used to look foward to those days very much ( they are now gone ) i used to love drving around littly italy sampling all the goodies. china town as well. lol those days are not over but – well you know. : : Anyways, there is nothing wrong with your posts here on asduk, Al i dont play the same way they do. name calling to them is fun i believe they feed on it. the posts i must make to make them feel the way they make me feel – will make even me cringe. I did not ask for this fight and i hope you do not hold the way i play back against me. but if that day ever comes simply start to ignore me or notify me via email. and I should : hate to see you change, and Peter has told you he has learned a lot from a : thread about exercise motivation that you started. Keep with *us*, Sushi, : you know you are welcome. I didnt mean i was thinking of leaving. but they get great satifaction out of turning people who get along with me against me. and if the day comes that you tell me off or mention that you want nothing to do with me – that will please them very much. thats not all tho I would also feel the loss of your friendly posts. by the way i realized to day that you have the same name as one of my most respected people i have ever met. he was my boss for 8 years. one of the reasons he was so special to me. he was i think in his 80’s one of the most inteligent men i have ever met. i can honstly say if i had to pick a person to follow and be like.. it would be him. he is the one who helped me pick my first computer. this guy had the best of old school and new school in him. he has no idea of course in 8 years i only talked to him a months worth but what an ever lasting impresion he made on me. Sushi : : — : As always, wishing you well : Al, Melton Mowbray, UK : Control Beef Lente 1x Low-Carb : http://www.diabetesincontrol.com uk.net.beginners : http://www.iddtinternational.org/uk : "Do, or do not. There is no try" Yoda : The Empire Strikes Back : :

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Will you help me to understand how metformin works

Here’s a killer. The medical profession doesn’t know either! All that is known is its method of working, not the exact mechanics. It helps lower insulin resistance, and supresses the liver-dump function. Metformin doesn’t stimulate insulin production; it helps the body use its insulin better. So it’s not a hypo-induing treatment. and what someone has to do to be less dependent on it?

Lose weight, exercise and avoid carbs in the first instance. But remember you will need to monitor carefully, and this condition can be progressive. So coming off isn’t impossible by any means, but don’t bet on it being a forever thing. you don’t have to get into the heavy tech stuff unless you want to. i just want to understand it a little bit.

That’s more or less it AFAIK. Nothing techy about it. Ratty — www.flyingrat.net

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Turner’s Babe said this… Why do I think he can help me? Because he’s an endocrinologist aswell as a diabetologist and will find out about what will and what won’t affect me, the reasons for it etc. I’m not satisfied with just seeing a doctor, I want the specialist (who is the top of his profession) to sort me out. My choice and I’m sticking to it.

Chances are he’ll also be up to date with the very latest stuff too…I’ve got a good’un Ratty — www.flyingrat.net

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: Hi Sushi, : Yes, I noticed, and I was so disgusted that I unsubscribed from asd. Might : get rid of mhd as well. it is my belief that is what is wrong with that group. decent people like you end up leaving. leaving it in the hands of trouble makers and idiots. when they can not think of something to fight about they make up something – even if they don’t believe it themselves. they waited for someone like Priscilla Ballme to start something so they can once again start with the insults. you have no idea how much i hate them – yes hate is a strong word i am capable of it and they have earned it. in a way i wish you wouldn’t leave that group Al. I would like to see it filled up with more people like you than what is currently infesting it. with a few people like you in that group idiots will be seen to be idiots and maybe will leave it alone for people who actually want to help and are not there because they are bored. those idiots will end up bothering people in chat rooms not in a support group where only those they like are welcome. Sushi –

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Why does my specialist take so long to see? He’s a specialist for Imperial College (one of the very best institutes in the world I believe) and you have to catch him when he’s in the country. I refuse to see someone which I believe is mediocre – I want to see the best, I demand to see the best, and I have private medical care so that enables me TO see the best. He’s not back in the country until August. So I have my first appointment with him then. Why do I think he can help me? Because he’s an endocrinologist aswell as a diabetologist and will find out about what will and what won’t affect me, the reasons for it etc. I’m not satisfied with just seeing a doctor, I want the specialist (who is the top of his profession) to sort me out. My choice and I’m sticking to it. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – — http://www.diabetes.org Sushi-Boy Type – 2 Dx’d January 27, 2003 also try alt.support.diabetes.uk misc.health.diabetes Well Done my friend!! I’d love to get one like that. BG’s at the moment aren’t that good cos I’m still waiting to see the specialist – just took it and it’s a very very bad 12.2 is that 12.2 uk numbers or is that us. if it is US come on Babe you can do better. what is it you think you are doing or not doing to get those numbers? can you change it? and most important – will you change it? get you can do it Babe just takes willpower and knowledge to be healthier and happier and live longer. its worth it. Sushi Yeah I know they’re not good numbers but I can’t get them down any further without the help of my specialist and I have another 3 weeks or so before I can see him. I have a cr*p doctor who only gave me Gliclazide one a day – and he said it wasn’t enough, but decided he wasn’t prepared to give You see I also have PCOS (Poly Cystic Ovarian Syndrome) – makes it harder for me because I have hormones going all over the place, lots of pain and the insulin resistance is a bit worse than with diabetes alone. They’re quite similar but we tend to get deposits of insulin in the soft areas of our skin because there’s too much and it doesn’t move around – so giving me Gliclazide isn’t really what I need – I need Avandia……. but I’ll be discussing that with the specialist. What is it you think the specialist will do to help you? i don’t even know what a specialist does. and why does it take so long to see him? my old primary doctor was very old ide say close to 80 even tho he looked in his 60’s. i seen some awards hanging on his wall and from the dates on that he had to be either in his early 80’s or late 70’s. he always had patients lined up but took a liking to my wife and I. we lived a block away and soon as we would call he would say come on down. i was very happy with him over the years – he seen me in my prime and my worst. he was a little too relaxed and i noticed his nurse would stand over him with a watchful eye. i guess he wasn’t what he used to be. i wish i could have seen him then and get another just like him. i had a cyst removed from my back a few years ago. this thing grew in not out. being i was even bigger at the time this thing was enormous. it was the size of big avocado and was as ugly as this creature i seen in a movie years ago. i think the movie was Big trouble in Tokyo or something. Goldie Horns boy friend was in it i forgot his name. Kurt Russell.. yea that’s it. it was a pretty good family type comedy. well anyway it was that ugly. Well time for lunch. im so happy today with my A1C i cant get any work done Sushi

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A new name for type 2?

admin — Mon, 18 Feb 2002 00:00:00 +0000

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I’ve just been reading a report – it’s a few years old now – commissioned by Diabetes UK when it was still the British Diabetic Association. It’s about the prevalence and cost of type 2, and public perception of it. It says that although type 2 is the overwhelmingly dominant form of diabetes, it has been in the shadow of type 1 in terms of research and public perception. Mention "diabetes", and most people think insulin injections. That’s if they’re not thinking "can’t eat sugar". When asked at what age diabetes was most likely to be diagnosed, most people said under 35. The real answer is – the oldest age group among the choices given, since most diabetes is type 2, and prevalence increases with age. So, I was wondering whether type 2 should be renamed as something else, which didn’t include the word "diabetes". What do you think, and have you got any suggestions? I’d like to suggest ODMMIFU (stands for "Oh dear, my metabolism is f***ed up"). Barbara

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How about "Exploding Arse Syndrome"? Since most T2s going onto Metformin will experience it… Ratty

LOL

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Barbara said in this very newsgroup… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’ve just been reading a report – it’s a few years old now – commissioned by Diabetes UK when it was still the British Diabetic Association. It’s about the prevalence and cost of type 2, and public perception of it. It says that although type 2 is the overwhelmingly dominant form of diabetes, it has been in the shadow of type 1 in terms of research and public perception. Mention "diabetes", and most people think insulin injections. That’s if they’re not thinking "can’t eat sugar". When asked at what age diabetes was most likely to be diagnosed, most people said under 35. The real answer is – the oldest age group among the choices given, since most diabetes is type 2, and prevalence increases with age. So, I was wondering whether type 2 should be renamed as something else, which didn’t include the word "diabetes". What do you think, and have you got any suggestions? I’d like to suggest ODMMIFU (stands for "Oh dear, my metabolism is f***ed up"). Barbara

How about "Exploding Arse Syndrome"? Since most T2s going onto Metformin will experience it… Ratty — Type 2 since 93 Can I get a new pancreas under the warranty? This one’s burnt out…. http://www.asduk.org.uk our shiny new website!

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Heaven is a dry fart, closely followed by ,Do fart’s have lumps,answer yes if your on metformin, regards sandy Ps can you get pampers in xxxl size.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’ve just been reading a report – it’s a few years old now – commissioned by Diabetes UK when it was still the British Diabetic Association. It’s about the prevalence and cost of type 2, and public perception of it. It says that although type 2 is the overwhelmingly dominant form of diabetes, it has been in the shadow of type 1 in terms of research and public perception. Mention "diabetes", and most people think insulin injections. That’s if they’re not thinking "can’t eat sugar". When asked at what age diabetes was most likely to be diagnosed, most people said under 35. The real answer is – the oldest age group among the choices given, since most diabetes is type 2, and prevalence increases with age. So, I was wondering whether type 2 should be renamed as something else, which didn’t include the word "diabetes". What do you think, and have you got any suggestions? I’d like to suggest ODMMIFU (stands for "Oh dear, my metabolism is f***ed up"). Barbara

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eddie LOL And I have the experience just ask the wife !!!!!!

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – How about "Exploding Arse Syndrome"? Since most T2s going onto Metformin will experience it… Ratty LOL

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Heaven is a dry fart, closely followed by ,Do fart’s have lumps,answer yes if your on metformin, regards sandy Ps can you get pampers in xxxl size. I’ve just been reading a report – it’s a few years old now – commissioned by Diabetes UK when it was still the British Diabetic Association. It’s about the prevalence and cost of type 2, and public perception of it. It says that although type 2 is the overwhelmingly dominant form of diabetes, it has been in the shadow of type 1 in terms of research and public perception. Mention "diabetes", and most people think insulin injections. That’s if they’re not thinking "can’t eat sugar". When asked at what age diabetes was most likely to be diagnosed, most people said under 35. The real answer is – the oldest age group among the choices given, since most diabetes is type 2, and prevalence increases with age. So, I was wondering whether type 2 should be renamed as something else, which didn’t include the word "diabetes". What do you think, and have you got any suggestions? I’d like to suggest ODMMIFU (stands for "Oh dear, my metabolism is f***ed up"). Barbara

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Can’t remember if Pete had moods on Metformin. Did you, Pete? He could get quite moody (unlike him) just prior to diagnosis. He did get stomach cramps on Metformin – not squits, but real, awful stomach pains. He tried it for a month, then doc put him on Gliclazide. Renia – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I remember my dad had a huge problem with Metformin – he also got really angry and moody while taking them – but I haven’t had the moods with metformin at all – anyone else had those?? How about "Exploding Arse Syndrome"? Since most T2s going onto Metformin will experience it… Well when I was about to start on metformin, I mentioned the side effects to my Dad (who has been taking it for years) and he looked at me blankly. It seems he has never suffered. Or maybe it’s counteracted in his case by one of the other drugs in the cocktail he’s on. I did get umm…. rather liquid side effects, but they wore off after a couple of weeks. Barbara — "Multimedia? As far as I’m concerned, it’s reading with the radio on!" This outgoing mail is certified as virus and dodgy things free. I promise!! Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).

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I remember my dad had a huge problem with Metformin – he also got really angry and moody while taking them – but I haven’t had the moods with metformin at all – anyone else had those??

How about "Exploding Arse Syndrome"? Since most T2s going onto Metformin will experience it… Well when I was about to start on metformin, I mentioned the side effects to my Dad (who has been taking it for years) and he looked at me blankly. It seems he has never suffered. Or maybe it’s counteracted in his case by one of the other drugs in the cocktail he’s on. I did get umm…. rather liquid side effects, but they wore off after a couple of weeks. Barbara

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How about "Exploding Arse Syndrome"? Since most T2s going onto Metformin will experience it…

Well when I was about to start on metformin, I mentioned the side effects to my Dad (who has been taking it for years) and he looked at me blankly. It seems he has never suffered. Or maybe it’s counteracted in his case by one of the other drugs in the cocktail he’s on. I did get umm…. rather liquid side effects, but they wore off after a couple of weeks. Barbara

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I only gets moods with my PCOS – don’t think I get them on Metformin myself – but yeah – my dad got in a right state with Metformin, he had stomach cramps, bad runs, moods, etc – shame he’s not around now – he’d loved to have taken part in the newsgroup to put his point across….. ( I know we tend to get the blues quite a bit – mind you I had that prior to dx’d cos of PCOS (bloomin PCOS!!! ARGGGHHH!!!) but yeah just wondered if Jackie

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Can’t remember if Pete had moods on Metformin. Did you, Pete? He could get quite moody (unlike him) just prior to diagnosis. He did get stomach cramps on Metformin – not squits, but real, awful stomach pains. He tried it for a month, then doc put him on Gliclazide. Renia I remember my dad had a huge problem with Metformin – he also got really angry and moody while taking them – but I haven’t had the moods with metformin at all – anyone else had those?? How about "Exploding Arse Syndrome"? Since most T2s going onto Metformin will experience it… Well when I was about to start on metformin, I mentioned the side effects to my Dad (who has been taking it for years) and he looked at me blankly. It seems he has never suffered. Or maybe it’s counteracted in his case by one of the other drugs in the cocktail he’s on. I did get umm…. rather liquid side effects, but they wore off after a couple of weeks. Barbara — "Multimedia? As far as I’m concerned, it’s reading with the radio on!" This outgoing mail is certified as virus and dodgy things free. I promise!! Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).

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No mood swings as far as I remember just bottom burps & cramps. Peter

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We know what you mean Pete!! ;o) Jackie

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – No mood swings as far as I remember just bottom burps & cramps. Peter Can’t remember if Pete had moods on Metformin. Did you, Pete? He could get quite moody (unlike him) just prior to diagnosis. He did get stomach cramps on Metformin – not squits, but real, awful stomach pains. He tried it for a month, then doc put him on Gliclazide. Renia I remember my dad had a huge problem with Metformin – he also got really angry and moody while taking them – but I haven’t had the moods with metformin at all – anyone else had those?? How about "Exploding Arse Syndrome"? Since most T2s going onto Metformin will experience it… Well when I was about to start on metformin, I mentioned the side effects to my Dad (who has been taking it for years) and he looked at me blankly. It seems he has never suffered. Or maybe it’s counteracted in his case by one of the other drugs in the cocktail he’s on. I did get umm…. rather liquid side effects, but they wore off after a couple of weeks. Barbara — "Multimedia? As far as I’m concerned, it’s reading with the radio on!" This outgoing mail is certified as virus and dodgy things free. I promise!! Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).

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My wife says I have quite rapid mood swings since diagnoses I cant of course comment , as being a man makes me right 150% of the time it wouldnt be fair on her Okay I do recognise I have started losing my temper for what seems NO reason at all, since I started on the metformin. I try to bite my tounge and count to 10, which normally helps. Im not sure if its the medication or just a combination of factors. 1) Lost my job (After 20 years) 2) Was Diagnosed Type 2 3) Im a Gemini (always known for mood swings) 4) Reduction in sugar intake (Doctor seems to beleive that the fall in BG levels can cause mood swings in some people, any one care to comment) Perhaps we could do an online survey on the possible phenomena of mood altering meds — DeanC Age 35 T2 – 27/12/01 6′ 1" 13st 09lbs (and falling) 1 x 500mg Metformin/day

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Gemini eh? My mum’s a Gemini – hell to live with one minute – an angel the next! At the moment I’ve just had a huge row with her – over the fact that white bread cos I’m really really bored of brown and she says that I should weight cos I didn’t look like I was" (well I have so there p ) and cos I had a little cry about me feeling so c*ap – ended with her storming out that’s all. I think it’s cos I turned 30 yesterday and all these thought’s about my dad came into my head – the fact that he only made it to

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – My wife says I have quite rapid mood swings since diagnoses I cant of course comment , as being a man makes me right 150% of the time it wouldnt be fair on her Okay I do recognise I have started losing my temper for what seems NO reason at all, since I started on the metformin. I try to bite my tounge and count to 10, which normally helps. Im not sure if its the medication or just a combination of factors. 1) Lost my job (After 20 years) 2) Was Diagnosed Type 2 3) Im a Gemini (always known for mood swings) 4) Reduction in sugar intake (Doctor seems to beleive that the fall in BG levels can cause mood swings in some people, any one care to comment) Perhaps we could do an online survey on the possible phenomena of mood altering meds — DeanC Age 35 T2 – 27/12/01 6′ 1" 13st 09lbs (and falling) 1 x 500mg Metformin/day Can’t remember if Pete had moods on Metformin. Did you, Pete? He could get quite moody (unlike him) just prior to diagnosis. He did get stomach cramps on Metformin – not squits, but real, awful stomach pains. He tried it for a month, then doc put him on Gliclazide. Renia I remember my dad had a huge problem with Metformin – he also got really angry and moody while taking them – but I haven’t had the moods with metformin at all – anyone else had those?? How about "Exploding Arse Syndrome"? Since most T2s going onto Metformin will experience it… Well when I was about to start on metformin, I mentioned the side effects to my Dad (who has been taking it for years) and he looked at me blankly. It seems he has never suffered. Or maybe it’s counteracted in his case by one of the other drugs in the cocktail he’s on. I did get umm…. rather liquid side effects, but they wore off after a couple of weeks. Barbara — "Multimedia? As far as I’m concerned, it’s reading with the radio on!" This outgoing mail is certified as virus and dodgy things free. I promise!! Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).

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Sorry to hear your feeling low Jackie, had a week like that myself, feeling down one minute, and grumpy the next, couldn`t be bothered with diets and drugs seems thats all i think about these days but its wearing off again. Take care of yourself brian.

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I thought mood swings were traditional in DM. I get aggressive if i get too low bgs, and bad tempered when i get too high bgs. Somewhere in the middle I’m just grumpy! Hehehee LOL MArtin

: My wife says I have quite rapid mood swings since diagnoses : : I cant of course comment , as being a man makes me right 150% of the time : : it wouldnt be fair on her : : Okay I do recognise I have started losing my temper for what seems NO reason : at all, since : I started on the metformin. I try to bite my tounge and count to 10, which : normally helps. : Im not sure if its the medication or just a combination of factors. : : 1) Lost my job (After 20 years) : 2) Was Diagnosed Type 2 : 3) Im a Gemini (always known for mood swings) : 4) Reduction in sugar intake (Doctor seems to beleive that the fall in BG : levels : can cause mood swings in some people, any one care to comment) : : Perhaps we could do an online survey on the possible phenomena of mood : altering meds : : : — : DeanC Age 35 : T2 – 27/12/01 : 6′ 1" 13st 09lbs (and falling) : 1 x 500mg Metformin/day

: Can’t remember if Pete had moods on Metformin. Did you, Pete? He could get : quite : moody (unlike him) just prior to diagnosis. He did get stomach cramps on : Metformin – not squits, but real, awful stomach pains. He tried it for a : month, : then doc put him on Gliclazide. : : Renia : : : I remember my dad had a huge problem with Metformin – he also got really : angry and moody while taking them – but I haven’t had the moods with : metformin at all – anyone else had those?? : : : How about "Exploding Arse Syndrome"? : Since most T2s going onto Metformin will experience it… : : Well when I was about to start on metformin, I mentioned the side : effects to my Dad (who has been taking it for years) and he looked at : me blankly. It seems he has never suffered. Or maybe it’s counteracted : in his case by one of the other drugs in the cocktail he’s on. : : I did get umm…. rather liquid side effects, but they wore off after : a couple of weeks. : : Barbara : : — : "Multimedia? As far as I’m concerned, it’s reading with the radio on!" : : This outgoing mail is certified as virus and dodgy things free. I : promise!! : Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). : : :

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Obstetrical Ultrasound?

admin — Fri, 07 Apr 2000 00:00:00 +0000

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>They probably didn’t see any cysts….I don’t have them either….don’t feel >so bad. You don’t need ovarian cysts to have PCOS…it’s been proven. It was >just a couple of pco-ignorant technicians, that’s all. Be thankful that you >have a doctor that knows about it!

The cysts are just one possible symptom. People get the idea that you *have* to have them due to the name of the disorder. It is very common to have them, but *not* having them doesn’t mean you don’t have the syndrome PCOS. ^—^ Cathy { ‘ . ‘ } ` Those who play with cats must expect to be scratched. 4Cysters: http://pages.ivillage.com/bh/cystercat Other pages: http://peaceonearth.faithweb.com http://littlec.faithweb.com http://www.i-love-cats.com/meow/cat

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Thanks guys, I knew that and I also told her that the Original name for PCOS is Stein-Leventhal and that cysts on ovaries are just a symptom. I also told her that I thought the doc was more curious about my uterus, tubes and such for lack of cycles. She was really very nice about everything but I did not get to see anything she would not let me look or anything…So here is the waiting game again, waiting for Doc to call me (that could take weeks)…But I will hang in there… God Bless, TracyP Cathy the Cat Loving Cyster wrote: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> >They probably didn’t see any cysts….I don’t have them either….don’t feel > >so bad. You don’t need ovarian cysts to have PCOS…it’s been proven. It was > >just a couple of pco-ignorant technicians, that’s all. Be thankful that you > >have a doctor that knows about it! > The cysts are just one possible symptom. People get the idea that you *have* to > have them due to the name of the disorder. It is very common to have them, but > *not* having them doesn’t mean you don’t have the syndrome PCOS. > ^—^ Cathy > { ‘ . ‘ } > ` Those who play with cats must expect to be scratched. > 4Cysters: http://pages.ivillage.com/bh/cystercat > Other pages: > http://peaceonearth.faithweb.com > http://littlec.faithweb.com > http://www.i-love-cats.com/meow/cat

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They probably didn’t see any cysts….I don’t have them either….don’t feel so bad. You don’t need ovarian cysts to have PCOS…it’s been proven. It was just a couple of pco-ignorant technicians, that’s all. Be thankful that you have a doctor that knows about it! Tracy Parrott wrote in message

news:38EE8CB3.E869F6C4@mobiletel.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Well I went in and you were right it was the jelly belly one I am pretty > confused though because the people that do the ultrasound is not my doc and they > give my doc the info and then she calls me and lets me know what the results > were… Though the technician was asking pretty strange questions.. She asked me > "who diagnosed you with PCOS’? I told her who did it and that the doc was in the > womens clinic and then she asked me "How did she diagnose you with lab work or > what"? I told her with my physical appearance and with bloodwork and I told her > every test that I had done and she said ok and then pulled another technician in > to look at my ovaries and whatever else they were looking at. She then proceeded > to tell him that I had been diagnosed with PCOS and he said something to the > effect of "well maybe they diagnosed her while she was ovulating" I said that > was impossible unless women can ovulate and not have a cycle for 4 years. He > looked at me like I was lying… They would not tell me anything and I am pretty > freaked out by the whole situation. I want to know what they saw !!! Oh Well, I > think I am going to go to go and rent a sad movie and cry all night…Anybody > have any clues to what they saw? Just curious. > God Bless, > TracyP > Gina wrote: > > I have had many of these ultrasounds. It’s the first way they diagnosed my > > PCO. > > The first tme I went, I to was supposed to drink alot of water (64 oz). The > > water is used to fill your bladder and push your uterus up (to do a belly > > ultrasound). When I got there, she tried this but there still wasn’t enough > > water in my bladder for a good picture. That’s when they do a vaginal > > ultrasound. They use a vaginal probe(kinda looks like a skinny > > vibrator(sorry)) when gell at the tip and what looks like a long condom over > > it. They get a better picture this way. > > This is all my doctor does now. (and I have one every time I go in) It’s > > really not that uncomfortable. > > They can use the ultrasound to see if your getting ready to ovulate, to > > watch the follicle(s) grow. > > Hope this helps. > > Tracy Parrott wrote in message > > news:38EDE8CF.2D3F2D8E@mobiletel.com… > > > I should have posted this earlier but here I am a couple of hours before > > > I actually leave. > > > I am scheduled for an obstetrical Ultrasound today and am just curious > > > about what it is usually used for. Baby’s? I have heard of so many > > > different ultrasounds.I have asked my doc to give me an ultrasound to > > > look at my ovaries and uterine lining so I know why she is doing this. > > > Just curious as to which kind of ultrasound it is. > > > Is this the one they put jelly on your belly? LOL (sorry sounded funny) > > > It says that I have to drink 32 ounces of water an hour before I have to > > > go in. This is not a prob for me all I drink is water and nothing else. > > > I hope you all can answer this before I go… > > > God Bless, > > > TracyP

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Well I went in and you were right it was the jelly belly one I am pretty confused though because the people that do the ultrasound is not my doc and they give my doc the info and then she calls me and lets me know what the results were… Though the technician was asking pretty strange questions.. She asked me "who diagnosed you with PCOS’? I told her who did it and that the doc was in the womens clinic and then she asked me "How did she diagnose you with lab work or what"? I told her with my physical appearance and with bloodwork and I told her every test that I had done and she said ok and then pulled another technician in to look at my ovaries and whatever else they were looking at. She then proceeded to tell him that I had been diagnosed with PCOS and he said something to the effect of "well maybe they diagnosed her while she was ovulating" I said that was impossible unless women can ovulate and not have a cycle for 4 years. He looked at me like I was lying… They would not tell me anything and I am pretty freaked out by the whole situation. I want to know what they saw !!! Oh Well, I think I am going to go to go and rent a sad movie and cry all night…Anybody have any clues to what they saw? Just curious. God Bless, TracyP – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Gina wrote: > I have had many of these ultrasounds. It’s the first way they diagnosed my > PCO. > The first tme I went, I to was supposed to drink alot of water (64 oz). The > water is used to fill your bladder and push your uterus up (to do a belly > ultrasound). When I got there, she tried this but there still wasn’t enough > water in my bladder for a good picture. That’s when they do a vaginal > ultrasound. They use a vaginal probe(kinda looks like a skinny > vibrator(sorry)) when gell at the tip and what looks like a long condom over > it. They get a better picture this way. > This is all my doctor does now. (and I have one every time I go in) It’s > really not that uncomfortable. > They can use the ultrasound to see if your getting ready to ovulate, to > watch the follicle(s) grow. > Hope this helps. > Tracy Parrott wrote in message > news:38EDE8CF.2D3F2D8E@mobiletel.com… > > I should have posted this earlier but here I am a couple of hours before > > I actually leave. > > I am scheduled for an obstetrical Ultrasound today and am just curious > > about what it is usually used for. Baby’s? I have heard of so many > > different ultrasounds.I have asked my doc to give me an ultrasound to > > look at my ovaries and uterine lining so I know why she is doing this. > > Just curious as to which kind of ultrasound it is. > > Is this the one they put jelly on your belly? LOL (sorry sounded funny) > > It says that I have to drink 32 ounces of water an hour before I have to > > go in. This is not a prob for me all I drink is water and nothing else. > > I hope you all can answer this before I go… > > God Bless, > > TracyP

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I have had many of these ultrasounds. It’s the first way they diagnosed my PCO. The first tme I went, I to was supposed to drink alot of water (64 oz). The water is used to fill your bladder and push your uterus up (to do a belly ultrasound). When I got there, she tried this but there still wasn’t enough water in my bladder for a good picture. That’s when they do a vaginal ultrasound. They use a vaginal probe(kinda looks like a skinny vibrator(sorry)) when gell at the tip and what looks like a long condom over it. They get a better picture this way. This is all my doctor does now. (and I have one every time I go in) It’s really not that uncomfortable. They can use the ultrasound to see if your getting ready to ovulate, to watch the follicle(s) grow. Hope this helps. Tracy Parrott wrote in message

news:38EDE8CF.2D3F2D8E@mobiletel.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I should have posted this earlier but here I am a couple of hours before > I actually leave. > I am scheduled for an obstetrical Ultrasound today and am just curious > about what it is usually used for. Baby’s? I have heard of so many > different ultrasounds.I have asked my doc to give me an ultrasound to > look at my ovaries and uterine lining so I know why she is doing this. > Just curious as to which kind of ultrasound it is. > Is this the one they put jelly on your belly? LOL (sorry sounded funny) > It says that I have to drink 32 ounces of water an hour before I have to > go in. This is not a prob for me all I drink is water and nothing else. > I hope you all can answer this before I go… > God Bless, > TracyP

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I should have posted this earlier but here I am a couple of hours before I actually leave. I am scheduled for an obstetrical Ultrasound today and am just curious about what it is usually used for. Baby’s? I have heard of so many different ultrasounds.I have asked my doc to give me an ultrasound to look at my ovaries and uterine lining so I know why she is doing this. Just curious as to which kind of ultrasound it is. Is this the one they put jelly on your belly? LOL (sorry sounded funny) It says that I have to drink 32 ounces of water an hour before I have to go in. This is not a prob for me all I drink is water and nothing else. I hope you all can answer this before I go… God Bless, TracyP

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Well, seeing as when you have a trans-vaginal they want you to totally empty your bladder, i would say that it is the jelly-belly kind "Tracy Parrott" wrote in message

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I give up.!!!!!!!!! (vent)

admin — Wed, 05 Jan 2000 00:00:00 +0000

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I understnad how you feel.I’m on my third dr.and spent 4000.00 when all I needed was the Met.,but noone wanted to put me on it.This dr.isn’t great,but at least she put me on it and it’s helping me and I don’t think I am Ir.since my blood glucose isn’t high.Please don’t give up.Just find a dr.who is good.You still need to fight this.I would ask to speak to the dr.and ask them if they perscribe Met.and she if they have an understanding of pco.before you go.That’s what I did with the fertility counselors.As far as the carbs I constantly have to battle with my weight.Robin In article <20000105145533.12602.00000…@ng-fd1.aol.com>, mcg…@aol.com (McGKar) wrote: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> That’s IT! I give up. This PCO is impossible. First you go for all these > tests. Then you find out you didn’t get the "right" tests. So you go and pull > teeth to get the "right" tests, and then you find out that even though the > "right" tests are normal, doesn’t mean they’re REALLY normal. Who knows maybe > you should go to another doctor next week and get some more tests, and maybe > THEY’LL be abnormal!! It goes on and on and on! Just because your fasting > insulin is normal doesn’t mean you’re not IR? Just because your ovaries don’t > have cysts NOW doesn’t mean they won’t have cysts LATER. Why don’t we all just > go and make weekly appointments with different doctors until we’re walking > around like pin cushions from all the needle holes, hoping they will find > something so we can pop a pill and be done with this PCO thing. That seems to > be what we’re doing. Why bother getting these tests at all if all we do is sit > around tell each other how they are inconclusive anyway!!!! > ARRRRGGHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > After extensive and exhaustive research, near driving myself crazy over this > whole thing I’ve drawn my own conclusions. If most of the doctors and > scientists don’t fully understand what drives PCOS, how the heck are WE > supposed to think we have got it all figured out? In my humble opinion, PCOS > is a very complex syndrome and is probably caused by several different factors > or combinations of factors, and probably different in each of us. If PCOS was > strictly an IR issue, then why doesn’t every woman on earth who is IR or > diabetic have PCOS? Why do some women have PCO while they are NOT IR? > Metformin works for some, not for others. Some women get so SICK from it, they > can’t take it anymore. Why is it that some women’s acne and and hirsutism get > WORSE instead of better on met? It’s all so completely confusing and I think > I’m being utterly ridiculous in assuming I can figure the whole thing out. > All these extreme measures to watch every single carb we put in our mouths is > also driving me nutty. If I’m not IR, why the heck am I trying to lower my > insulin level, when it’s already fine at 6??? The STRESS and ANXIETY we put > ourselves through over what we should eat, shouldn’t eat, should take, > shouldn’t take, what tests to have, what they mean or don’t mean is WORSE than > eating an entire box of pasta! Stress and anxiety release stress hormones and > have a very negative affect on our systems. That’s not exactly going to help > the PCO, is it? Of course not! > I think the women who are approaching this whole thing from a holistic > standpoint have got the right idea. They are seeing it as an entire body > system malfunction, and are working on toning up all areas of their > bodies/minds and lives. Eating healthier, exercising, taking their vitamins, > detoxing their livers, processing old and negative emotions and trying to > balance their systems with herbs if needed. This approach seems to make much > more sense then going from clueless doctor to clueless doctor looking for some > abnormality for which there is a magic bullet, never being satisfied when the > results are "normal." > Naturally, if you ARE insulin resistant, and overweight or having real major > health problems related to PCO, then a "real" doctor and meds are the best bet. > But I don’t fall into that category. I’m not going to keep telling doctor > after doctor that they know nothing and I’m the All-Knowing-Grand-Poo- Bah of > PCO, give me another test, so I can doubt it’s results. > That’s it! Count me out. I’m getting off the PCO Carousel. Give my opening > at the local lab to someone else. Cancel my appointment with the next clueless > doctor. I have left the building!!!!!! > Karen M

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Thanks,for mentioning the Cysterhood,Cathy.I had fun looking at all the cysters in all the states.I’ve come to the conclusion we all have dark hair.Maybee we are all related.Robin In article <20000108111752.22522.00000…@ng-fu1.aol.com>, cyster…@aol.comedyclub (Cathy the Cat Loving Cyster) wrote: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> To find a PCOS friendly dr., try the Cysterhood page to see if there is a > contact in your area: > http://www.psquareddoc.com/psplace/pcofiles/cysterhood.html > Otherwise, someone from the PCOSA organization might be able to help you find > one. > http://www.pcosupport.org/ > If your GP has seen how your test results are, is she open-minded enough to > treat you? > ^—^ Cathy > { ‘ . ‘ } > ` "Those who play with cats must expect to be scratched." > Hope for Cysters: http://pages.ivillage.com/bh/cystercat > My web page: http://peaceonearth.faithweb.com > Visit Little C: http://littlec.faithweb.com

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To find a PCOS friendly dr., try the Cysterhood page to see if there is a contact in your area: http://www.psquareddoc.com/psplace/pcofiles/cysterhood.html Otherwise, someone from the PCOSA organization might be able to help you find one. http://www.pcosupport.org/ If your GP has seen how your test results are, is she open-minded enough to treat you? ^—^ Cathy { ‘ . ‘ } ` "Those who play with cats must expect to be scratched." Hope for Cysters: http://pages.ivillage.com/bh/cystercat My web page: http://peaceonearth.faithweb.com Visit Little C: http://littlec.faithweb.com

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I forgot to say that she was my old GP. My dad got a new job which meant new insurence. The doctor I’m seeing now is really good, and seems like he’s open to anything. He sent me to a gyno for my PCOS but the appointment was the day before Christmas Eve. and we all forgot. So we plan to go to that doc and see what he says, then end up having to go to an endo anyway. It’s also suspected that I have CAH to complicate things even more. I’m always on the lookout for a new doctor though. In case the current one falls through. Thanks for the help. Grace In article <20000108111752.22522.00000…@ng-fu1.aol.com>, cyster…@aol.comedyclub (Cathy the Cat Loving Cyster) wrote: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> To find a PCOS friendly dr., try the Cysterhood page to see if there is a > contact in your area: > http://www.psquareddoc.com/psplace/pcofiles/cysterhood.html > Otherwise, someone from the PCOSA organization might be able to help you find > one. > http://www.pcosupport.org/ > If your GP has seen how your test results are, is she open-minded enough to > treat you? > ^—^ Cathy > { ‘ . ‘ } > ` "Those who play with cats must expect to be scratched." > Hope for Cysters: http://pages.ivillage.com/bh/cystercat > My web page: http://peaceonearth.faithweb.com > Visit Little C: http://littlec.faithweb.com

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>From: ophe…@enteract.com (Grace) >2) don’t have the money to be spending on going to 5 different doctor’s in >hopes of finding one that might try and help. >I’m sure the insurance wouldn’t pay >for. So were stuck in Chicago, where no one has a clue.

Grace The University of Chicago has ongoing studies for PCOS and I know there are knowledgeable doctors there. Here is the address to their site…..hope this helps. http://centerforpcos.bsd.uchicago.edu Kellie

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Thank you for the advice, really. I’ve already gone there. I went there right after the Doc was on Dateline. The one I saw said I didn’t even have PCOS and that I’m just fat and I needed to see a nutritionist. Even though my free testosterone was elevated with the few tests he did run. The people there treated me like crap basically. The doc was just looking for people he could have in his study, I wasn’t (I hope none of you take offense to this.) hairy enough, I didn’t have acne covering my face (I actually have it on my rump which I think is actually worse because sometimes I can’t even sit down.), and at the time I wasn’t fat enough. Since then I’ve gained at least 50 pounds. It took almost two months before I received my tests results and even that took my mother calling threatening to call the medical director of the hospital. After we did finally receive we had suspicions that he made some of the tests results to appear normal when they actually weren’t. We took them to my GP and she said to take them over again and see what the results were this time. We did and they weren’t even close to being what the doc at UIC wrote down. My GP said there was no possible way everything could fluctuate as much as it did according to the results that doctor gave. Does anyone know of anyone else in the city of Chicago I could go see? I’m beginning to run out of options rather quickly. Thanks. Grace – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> >From: ophe…@enteract.com (Grace) > >2) don’t have the money to be spending on going to 5 different doctor’s in > >hopes of finding one that might try and help. > >I’m sure the insurance wouldn’t pay > >for. So were stuck in Chicago, where no one has a clue. > Grace > The University of Chicago has ongoing studies for PCOS and I know there are > knowledgeable doctors there. Here is the address to their site…..hope this > helps. > http://centerforpcos.bsd.uchicago.edu > Kellie

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Kellie, Hi ….I am in Iowa too! I have been considering going to the University Hosp fertility clinic…Can you tell me more about it or which doctors are knowledgeable about pcos? You can email me privately if you wish…Thanks Lisa l…@spinner.org – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -KELSO 1121 wrote: > Grace, > Sorry to hear about your experience. I just dont understand some people. If I > come across someone I’ll let you know. I live in Iowa and we have some good > docs at University of Iowa Hospital and clinics (Iowa City)…..so if you ever > move this way??? > Good Luck, > Kellie > Kellie

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In article <20000106114441.14153.00000…@ng-ff1.aol.com>, kelso1…@aol.com (KELSO 1121) wrote: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> No,they didn’t test it.Guess it’s too late now that I’m on the Met.Robin > >From: robinortiz > >I don’t > >think I am Ir.since my blood glucose isn’t high. > Robin, > If your blood glucose was high…you would be diabetic. You may or may not > know this but what you need to be concerned about is your fasting insulin > level. Insulin in your body works at keeping your blood glucose levels > normal…..so your insulin could be elevated. Did you have that checked when > you had your glucose levels checked? If you read some of the old > posts….others explained this much better than I. > Just a thought > Kellie

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>rom: ophe…@enteract.com (Grace) >The people there treated me like crap basically. >It took almost two months before I received my tests results and even that >took my mother calling threatening to call the medical director of the >hospital. After we did finally receive we had suspicions that he made some >of the tests results to appear normal when they actually weren’t.

Grace, Sorry to hear about your experience. I just dont understand some people. If I come across someone I’ll let you know. I live in Iowa and we have some good docs at University of Iowa Hospital and clinics (Iowa City)…..so if you ever move this way??? Good Luck, Kellie Kellie

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>From: robinortiz >I don’t >think I am Ir.since my blood glucose isn’t high.

Robin, If your blood glucose was high…you would be diabetic. You may or may not know this but what you need to be concerned about is your fasting insulin level. Insulin in your body works at keeping your blood glucose levels normal…..so your insulin could be elevated. Did you have that checked when you had your glucose levels checked? If you read some of the old posts….others explained this much better than I. Just a thought Kellie

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It’s not always that easy to just go to doctor’s all the time. I have another medical problem that doc’s have -no- clue what’s so ever about. It’s what the astronauts get when they come back from space. NASA has no clue about it. I’ve got double the annoying doctor’s, un-needed tests and stupidity! Plus, the medicine that -can- possibly help the PCOS I can’t take because it lower’s blood pressure which I can’t do because it’s normally 40/60. Also saying just go until you find a doctor that has a brain about this isn’t easy because 1) people have jobs that they can’t take off work for. 2) don’t have the money to be spending on going to 5 different doctor’s in hopes of finding one that might try and help. That’s what people have said to me and my family about my other problem’s. There are doc’s in other states that have better understanding of it, but my family doesn’t have the money to be spending on train fare (my brother and I can’t fly.) hotels plus the doctor visit which I’m sure the insurance wouldn’t pay for. So were stuck in Chicago, where no one has a clue. So saying just keep going to doctor’s isn’t as easy as you make it sound. Spending $4000 isn’t something everyone can do, PCOS doesn’t effect just the rich. (yes to be able to spend $4000 on going to doctor’s does seem rich to me.) Grace

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In article <20000105145533.12602.00000…@ng-fd1.aol.com>, mcg…@aol.com (McGKar) wrote: > Karen M

Yeah, what she said! I’m doing better for myself than years of docs did anyway. Low-carb and met (gotten on my own, after doc did liver/kidney function tests) are producing the desired results, so I’d as soon not be a pin-cushion anymore myself. — Marion, 213 in December ‘98 Atkid since 1/18/99, soccer+pumpin’ iron 205/183/? BF% 41/29/20 Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.

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That’s IT! I give up. This PCO is impossible. First you go for all these tests. Then you find out you didn’t get the "right" tests. So you go and pull teeth to get the "right" tests, and then you find out that even though the "right" tests are normal, doesn’t mean they’re REALLY normal. Who knows maybe you should go to another doctor next week and get some more tests, and maybe THEY’LL be abnormal!! It goes on and on and on! Just because your fasting insulin is normal doesn’t mean you’re not IR? Just because your ovaries don’t have cysts NOW doesn’t mean they won’t have cysts LATER. Why don’t we all just go and make weekly appointments with different doctors until we’re walking around like pin cushions from all the needle holes, hoping they will find something so we can pop a pill and be done with this PCO thing. That seems to be what we’re doing. Why bother getting these tests at all if all we do is sit around tell each other how they are inconclusive anyway!!!! ARRRRGGHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! After extensive and exhaustive research, near driving myself crazy over this whole thing I’ve drawn my own conclusions. If most of the doctors and scientists don’t fully understand what drives PCOS, how the heck are WE supposed to think we have got it all figured out? In my humble opinion, PCOS is a very complex syndrome and is probably caused by several different factors or combinations of factors, and probably different in each of us. If PCOS was strictly an IR issue, then why doesn’t every woman on earth who is IR or diabetic have PCOS? Why do some women have PCO while they are NOT IR? Metformin works for some, not for others. Some women get so SICK from it, they can’t take it anymore. Why is it that some women’s acne and and hirsutism get WORSE instead of better on met? It’s all so completely confusing and I think I’m being utterly ridiculous in assuming I can figure the whole thing out. All these extreme measures to watch every single carb we put in our mouths is also driving me nutty. If I’m not IR, why the heck am I trying to lower my insulin level, when it’s already fine at 6??? The STRESS and ANXIETY we put ourselves through over what we should eat, shouldn’t eat, should take, shouldn’t take, what tests to have, what they mean or don’t mean is WORSE than eating an entire box of pasta! Stress and anxiety release stress hormones and have a very negative affect on our systems. That’s not exactly going to help the PCO, is it? Of course not! I think the women who are approaching this whole thing from a holistic standpoint have got the right idea. They are seeing it as an entire body system malfunction, and are working on toning up all areas of their bodies/minds and lives. Eating healthier, exercising, taking their vitamins, detoxing their livers, processing old and negative emotions and trying to balance their systems with herbs if needed. This approach seems to make much more sense then going from clueless doctor to clueless doctor looking for some abnormality for which there is a magic bullet, never being satisfied when the results are "normal." Naturally, if you ARE insulin resistant, and overweight or having real major health problems related to PCO, then a "real" doctor and meds are the best bet. But I don’t fall into that category. I’m not going to keep telling doctor after doctor that they know nothing and I’m the All-Knowing-Grand-Poo-Bah of PCO, give me another test, so I can doubt it’s results. That’s it! Count me out. I’m getting off the PCO Carousel. Give my opening at the local lab to someone else. Cancel my appointment with the next clueless doctor. I have left the building!!!!!! Karen M

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AMEN!! You took the words outta my mouth!! Karen B. McGKar wrote in message

news:20000105145533.12602.00000038@ng-fd1.aol.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> That’s IT! I give up. This PCO is impossible. First you go for all these > tests. Then you find out you didn’t get the "right" tests. So you go and pull > teeth to get the "right" tests, and then you find out that even though the > "right" tests are normal, doesn’t mean they’re REALLY normal. Who knows maybe > you should go to another doctor next week and get some more tests, and maybe > THEY’LL be abnormal!! It goes on and on and on! Just because your fasting > insulin is normal doesn’t mean you’re not IR? Just because your ovaries don’t > have cysts NOW doesn’t mean they won’t have cysts LATER. Why don’t we all just > go and make weekly appointments with different doctors until we’re walking > around like pin cushions from all the needle holes, hoping they will find > something so we can pop a pill and be done with this PCO thing. That seems to > be what we’re doing. Why bother getting these tests at all if all we do is sit > around tell each other how they are inconclusive anyway!!!! > ARRRRGGHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > After extensive and exhaustive research, near driving myself crazy over this > whole thing I’ve drawn my own conclusions. If most of the doctors and > scientists don’t fully understand what drives PCOS, how the heck are WE > supposed to think we have got it all figured out? In my humble opinion, PCOS > is a very complex syndrome and is probably caused by several different factors > or combinations of factors, and probably different in each of us. If PCOS was > strictly an IR issue, then why doesn’t every woman on earth who is IR or > diabetic have PCOS? Why do some women have PCO while they are NOT IR? > Metformin works for some, not for others. Some women get so SICK from it, they > can’t take it anymore. Why is it that some women’s acne and and hirsutism get > WORSE instead of better on met? It’s all so completely confusing and I think > I’m being utterly ridiculous in assuming I can figure the whole thing out. > All these extreme measures to watch every single carb we put in our mouths is > also driving me nutty. If I’m not IR, why the heck am I trying to lower my > insulin level, when it’s already fine at 6??? The STRESS and ANXIETY we put > ourselves through over what we should eat, shouldn’t eat, should take, > shouldn’t take, what tests to have, what they mean or don’t mean is WORSE than > eating an entire box of pasta! Stress and anxiety release stress hormones and > have a very negative affect on our systems. That’s not exactly going to help > the PCO, is it? Of course not! > I think the women who are approaching this whole thing from a holistic > standpoint have got the right idea. They are seeing it as an entire body > system malfunction, and are working on toning up all areas of their > bodies/minds and lives. Eating healthier, exercising, taking their vitamins, > detoxing their livers, processing old and negative emotions and trying to > balance their systems with herbs if needed. This approach seems to make much > more sense then going from clueless doctor to clueless doctor looking for some > abnormality for which there is a magic bullet, never being satisfied when the > results are "normal." > Naturally, if you ARE insulin resistant, and overweight or having real major > health problems related to PCO, then a "real" doctor and meds are the best bet. > But I don’t fall into that category. I’m not going to keep telling doctor > after doctor that they know nothing and I’m the All-Knowing-Grand-Poo-Bah of > PCO, give me another test, so I can doubt it’s results. > That’s it! Count me out. I’m getting off the PCO Carousel. Give my opening > at the local lab to someone else. Cancel my appointment with the next clueless > doctor. I have left the building!!!!!! > Karen M

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METFORMIN

admin — Tue, 04 Jan 2000 00:00:00 +0000

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Hi I linked to one of the websites that Reb said were useful in one of her past replies. I have to say I found it incredible! I have never understood the links between diabetes and PCO before and usage of METFORMIN but now I am clear. I do have one question thought that I’d appreciate an answer too and that is… Does anyone know if METFORMIN is prescribed by doctors in the UK on the NHS? Any comment would be great! As ever thanks for your support Ali

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I believe that St. Mary’s or St. Paddington’s or St. something or other has some doctors that do. Have to find the reference. Victoria – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Alison Persence wrote: > Hi > I linked to one of the websites that Reb said were useful in one of her past > replies. I have to say I found it incredible! I have never understood the > links between diabetes and PCO before and usage of METFORMIN but now I am > clear. > I do have one question thought that I’d appreciate an answer too and that > is… > Does anyone know if METFORMIN is prescribed by doctors in the UK on the NHS? > Any comment would be great! > As ever thanks for your support > Ali

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I have used metformin in number of patients wit wonderful results. Dr Pardeshi MD DGO – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Alison Persence wrote: > Hi > I linked to one of the websites that Reb said were useful in one of her past > replies. I have to say I found it incredible! I have never understood the > links between diabetes and PCO before and usage of METFORMIN but now I am > clear. > I do have one question thought that I’d appreciate an answer too and that > is… > Does anyone know if METFORMIN is prescribed by doctors in the UK on the NHS? > Any comment would be great! > As ever thanks for your support > Ali

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Dr Pardeshi wrote: > I have used metformin in number of patients wit wonderful results. > Dr Pardeshi > MD DGO

Dr. Pardeshi, Emailed and posted Thank you so much for commenting on this newsgroup. As you can see from many of the comments, several women have not been treated medically nor have they been treated with compassion when dealing with PCOS. Some of us are not trying to conceive and have lived most of our lives on this syndrome’s roller coaster. All of us want better health for ourselves. Thanks again for commenting. Should you have anything to add which we could take to our doctors, it would be greatly appreciated. Yours, Carolyn Gregg, Canada– Please use car…@home.com

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Is the experience with metformin success mainly in those overweight? Or is there benefit in taking this drug in someone who has normal or even below-normal body weight (or body mass index)? Thanks Claire

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Me. Works a treat. 5′2, 53kg. Sue (NZ) IM wrote in message

news:8602mj$197$1@lure.pipex.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Is the experience with metformin success mainly in those overweight? > Or is there benefit in taking this drug in someone who has normal or even > below-normal body weight (or body mass index)? > Thanks > Claire

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>Is the experience with metformin success mainly in those overweight? >Or is there benefit in taking this drug in someone who has normal or even >below-normal body weight (or body mass index)?

Even some of the diabetics that use it to control insulin resistance are slim. My father-in-law, for instance. I guess it is one of those YMMV things. ^—^ Cathy { ‘ . ‘ } ` "Those who play with cats must expect to be scratched." Hope for Cysters: http://pages.ivillage.com/bh/cystercat My web page: http://peaceonearth.faithweb.com Visit Little C: http://littlec.faithweb.com

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Article in Self Magazine

admin — Fri, 30 Jul 1999 00:00:00 +0000

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I just read a article on PCOS in the Self Magazine issue this month, im glad it was in there, maybe it will make doctors, and people more aware of this diease/syndrome. I just thought i would share that with everyone. Kristen

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>I just read a article on PCOS in the Self Magazine issue this month, im glad >it >was in there, maybe it will make doctors, and people more aware of this >diease/syndrome. I just thought i would share that with everyone. >Kristen

Thanks Kristen, It is good to see awareness being built. ^–^ Cathy {‘ . ‘} ` "Cats are smarter than dogs.You can’t get 8 cats to pull a sled through snow." [Jeff Valdez] My web page: http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Cottage/8060/ Hope for Cysters: http://pages.ivillage.com/bh/cystercat

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<<>> This is great news. Thanks for posting!! I remember when most people had never heard of PCOS. I’m so glad things are changing in that regard. —Elizabeth

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IR ?….

admin — Mon, 14 Jun 1999 00:00:00 +0000

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Wow. I just came to this site for the first time and it’s giving me an eerie crawling sensation…..all too familiar, you know? How do I know if this is my problem or not? Thanks. xklm

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I was wondering which came first: the IR causing carb intolerance which usually leads to weight gain…OR the weight gain causing the IR/PCO? TIA!

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Its like the chicken and the egg syndrome. Just Me, Lisa. "I’m not fat..I’m big boned!" -Eric Cartman- *SouthPark* PCOS the Silent Disease* PCOS Support Page

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>I was wondering which came first: the IR causing carb intolerance which >usually >leads to weight gain…OR the weight gain causing the IR/PCO?

I was told that in my case it was the IC/PCO causing the weight gain. i was a small to normal child before i hit early puberty and began to gain weight uncontrollably. At the same time, I developed acne, oily skin and hair, mood swings, had menstrual difficulties from the get-go. After developing these symptoms, I gained weight continuously for over 20 years, even on weight loss diets. The only time I did not gain weight was on a 500 calorie a day liquid fast program. When I look at pictures from childhood, at age 6 I was a normal, smallish child, and at age 8, I was fat, had breasts, acne ridden, and horrendously greasy hair. The change was so dramatic and so drastic. Tracy

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Freaked Out!

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Okay — I just got back from visiting with the gyn nurse and asked if my endocrine dr. had sent the results of my lab (he hadn’t) so I had to explain that I wanted to start clomid today (day 5) and that I am on Glucaphage (which is new since I’ve seen gyn. last). The nurse ran in and asked gyn whether I should start the clomid today and gyn told her "NO!" and since this PCOS diagnosis and Glucaphage that I will need to get my sugars under control and be on insulin injections before and during pregnancy!!!!! WHAT?!?! My glucose is 91 with reference range 60-114. There was no insulin test done so I don’t know about that part. I had gestational diabetes with my first and only pregnancy with a 9lb. 14oz. son delivered my c-section. She know all of that but I am really doubting that she has a clue about the PCOS stuff. She was calling it Syndrome X for awhile until I said, "I’m pretty sure that’s related but different from PCO". She agreed later!! Scary! Anyway… any similar experiences? Am I really going to have to take insulin injections? I thought once you started that stuff you were on it for good? The more I talk about it the more scared I get. Thanks everyone. Debbie K. – WA

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Hi Debbie, No wonder you were scared! Why do they want to start with something as drastic as shots already? I have heard that lots of people have tried low carb diets and it has brought their insulin under control. I think I would try this before something drastic like shots. If you really are uncomfortable with your Dr, I would strongly suggest you switch to someone you will be more comfortable with. Tina

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Stein/Leventhal Syndrome or PCOS Disease

admin — Sat, 16 Jan 1999 00:00:00 +0000

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Many years ago I was diagnosed with Stein/Leventhal. No one suggested I take Metformin or any other Diabetes meds to reduce my blood glucose. If I had been taking that drug, is there any chance that I might have become pregnant? No other remedial therapies were suggested at the time that diagnosis was made. I feel so disappointed that nothing was done to help me conceive. Please respond

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If I had been taking that drug, is there any chance that I might have become pregnant? No other remedial therapies were suggested at the time that diagnosis was made. I feel so disappointed that nothing was done to help me conceive.

Hi, I have pcos too and am currently on metformin. There is a chance that you could have conceived while on the met. due to the fact that a large majority of women with insulin resistance and PCO resume normal ovulatory cycles, such as in my case. I have been on it three months and have ovulated each month, although I am not pg yet. There also could be other factors involved with you conceiving so even if the met did work for you it doesnt necc.mean you would get pg. The reason why met was never mentioned to you awhile ago, was because it is very new and experimental. Most dr’s don’t really know much about using insulin lowering drugs to treat pco, the good news is that some do. I was blessed to have a RE who knew about it and put me on it. Other dr’s you have to hound, show studies to and educate them about what you know to get on it. It is not too late for you to see your dr. about the met. If you need any info about met. please feel free to email me. God Bless! shelley

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? about ovulation

admin — Fri, 18 Dec 1998 00:00:00 +0000

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If you have a positive LH surge does that guarentee you will ovulate?

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