Polycystic Ovary Syndrome (PCOS)

d-chiro-inositol where?

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In article <375D7FDE.7…@mbay.net>, – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -  dav…@mbay.net wrote: > Lisa B. Weinstein wrote: > > Sorry to disappoint all of you, but i just got back from the pcosa > > international conference. On problem with women who have PCOS is that > > they cannot convert the type of inositol you find in fruits, veggies > > and health food stores into the type that is needed.  Don’t waste > > money on the existing supplements. Insmed is trying to fast track the > > drug and is also trying to get it approved as a supplement.  I would > > wait for their version. > Thanks Lisa, I was going to say this too.  The Inositol found in health > food stores, does not contain it either.  Insmed said that you would > have to eat 24 orange peels per day to get the desited dose.  I wouldn’t > try it eating them, since they have also been treated with pesticides… > — > Katharina > dav…@german-usa.com > 35/5.9/C0-nt/met1500 > 262(March 15,99)/236

And this is also what I said on another thread some time ago – that inositol is not the same biochemical substance as d-chiro-inositol. Different "shapes" do different things. Al. Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Share what you know. Learn what you don’t.

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Lisa B. Weinstein wrote: > Sorry to disappoint all of you, but i just got back from the pcosa > international conference. On problem with women who have PCOS is that > they cannot convert the type of inositol you find in fruits, veggies > and health food stores into the type that is needed.  Don’t waste > money on the existing supplements. Insmed is trying to fast track the > drug and is also trying to get it approved as a supplement.  I would > wait for their version.

Thanks Lisa, I was going to say this too.  The Inositol found in health food stores, does not contain it either.  Insmed said that you would have to eat 24 orange peels per day to get the desited dose.  I wouldn’t try it eating them, since they have also been treated with pesticides… — Katharina dav…@german-usa.com 35/5.9/C0-nt/met1500 262(March 15,99)/236

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In article <19990608015808.02081.00002…@ng-co1.aol.com>,   cbraly2…@aol.com (CBraly2000) wrote: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> >Sorry to disappoint all of you, but i just got back from the pcosa > >international conference. On problem with women who have PCOS is that > >they cannot convert the type of inositol you find in fruits, veggies > >and health food stores into the type that is needed.  Don’t waste > >money on the existing supplements. Insmed is trying to fast track the > >drug and is also trying to get it approved as a supplement.  I would > >wait for their version. > This was interesting to hear… at least now the women here don’t have to go > waste money on supplements that won’t help.  Did they say at the conference if > the drug Insmed is working on will be something that can be used as a treatment > for PCOS by itself kinda like Metformin, or is it something that can or should > be used along ith Metformin? There would have been no way for me to have gone > to the conference, but I sure would have liked to… maybe in the future ) > . > God Bless You  <*(((>< > Carrie   ;o)~    from Oklahoma > Carrie’s Home Page (PCOS) > http://hometown.aol.com/cbraly2000/home.index.html > For info. on treatment of PCOS with the drug Metformin go to this site… > http://www.ivf.com/pcostreat.html

D-chiro-inositol will be a stand-alone treatment for PCO. Leah — "Boxy, but good." To send me email, please use lrog…@smartcorp.net. I use the dejanews email to filter spam. Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Share what you know. Learn what you don’t.

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Any news on where to buy d-chiro-inositol? It is a naturally occuring food substance that shouldn’t need approval as a food supplement. Please let me know if they find a source. (I have already found the New Zealand company) Steve

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Steven Ferguson wrote: > Any news on where to buy d-chiro-inositol? It is a naturally occuring > food substance that shouldn’t need approval as a food supplement. Please > let me know if they find a source. (I have already found the New Zealand > company)

I expect the Health Food stores will be quick to pick up on this one, at least to the point of changing the labels on their Soy products. But there aren’t any pure d-chiro-inositol products out there yet, and it sounds like they may be taking the ‘drug’ route rather than the ‘dietary supplement’ route on this one.  Since there don’t seem to be any big side effects, this is one case where I’m hoping the supplements do get something onto the market quickly! There may be chemical companies willing to produce d-chiro-inositol in some form, but I’d be careful about that sort of source.  I can remember the neurologist in vet school vetoing a chemical company as a source for potassium bromide because he didn’t trust it to be pure enough to use medically.  Investigate your source, and try getting advice from a good pharmacist about using non-pharmaceutical sources. -Janet   <dornh…@prairienet.org>     253/228/Linda Hamilton in T2 "As a rule, the more bizzare a thing is, the less mysterious it proves    to be."   -Sherlock Holmes

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Unfortunately for those of us in Europe, if the European Union have their way then all of these natural supplements will need medical licenses. Many suppliers can’t afford the great cost of this and will go out of business. Less choice for the consumer. As far as I am aware it is not possible to buy d-chiro-inositol on its own as a supplement. You have to either eat foods rich in it – which is not too difficult on a low G.I. diet, if you check the list posted previously – or take soya lecithin supplements. Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Share what you know. Learn what you don’t.

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> I expect the Health Food stores will be quick to pick up on this one, > at least to the point of changing the labels on their Soy products. > But there aren’t any pure d-chiro-inositol products out there yet, and > it sounds like they may be taking the ‘drug’ route rather than the > ‘dietary supplement’ route on this one.  Since there don’t seem to be > any big side effects, this is one case where I’m hoping the supplements > do get something onto the market quickly!

I guess one of the problems is that side effects can take years to emerge. I also think it is worth remembering that the recent study was only conducted on 44 subjects  -  of whom 22 received a placebo. So that’s only 22 women who were given "pure" d-chiro-inositol in isolation. That’s an incredibly small group and whilst the results are wonderfully encouraging it was really only the equivalent of a pilot study. As a biologist, I would be worried if they *didn’t* carry out further trials on a much more extensive group of women. We would be the first to complain if there were problems with it. Don’t get me wrong – I think the work that has been done is incredibly promising and I too hope it comes to fruition in the near future. In the meantime, I think we have to take the route of eating foods rich in this substance. Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Share what you know. Learn what you don’t.

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How much soya lecithin would we need to take, do you think? Lisa R.

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In article <19990606154832.20819.00001…@ng-fb1.aol.com>,   tngat…@aol.com (TNGators) wrote: > How much soya lecithin would we need to take, do you think? > Lisa R.

I’m not sure I can answer that with confidence but the information someone else posted a while back said that soya lecithin contained 2100mg of d-chrio-inositol per 100g. The study used 1200mg of d-chiro- inositol. I would have thought the best most natural approach would be just to eat foods rich in d-chiro-inositol such as soya products, lentils, wheatgerm and chickpeas etc..(there’s a list posted somewhere) plus heaps of fruit and veg. Personally I have a problem with eating soya as it makes me feel very strange indeed but I eat most of the other things containing d-chiro-inositol. I guess it’s trial and error really. Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Share what you know. Learn what you don’t.

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>just to eat foods rich in d-chiro-inositol such as soya products, >lentils, wheatgerm and chickpeas etc..(there’s a list posted somewhere)

OK – does anyone have this list????  I’d love to see it! Some of these Soya items are not lowcarb so I’d have to weigh the advantages. I’m trying to ovulate, I have PCO and I’m on a low carb diet.   It is a little overwhelming to keep up with everything (I’m on lots of lists). Thanks, Lisa R.

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Sorry to disappoint all of you, but i just got back from the pcosa international conference. On problem with women who have PCOS is that they cannot convert the type of inositol you find in fruits, veggies and health food stores into the type that is needed.  Don’t waste money on the existing supplements. Insmed is trying to fast track the drug and is also trying to get it approved as a supplement.  I would wait for their version.

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>Sorry to disappoint all of you, but i just got back from the pcosa >international conference. On problem with women who have PCOS is that >they cannot convert the type of inositol you find in fruits, veggies >and health food stores into the type that is needed.  Don’t waste >money on the existing supplements. Insmed is trying to fast track the >drug and is also trying to get it approved as a supplement.  I would >wait for their version.

This was interesting to hear… at least now the women here don’t have to go waste money on supplements that won’t help.  Did they say at the conference if the drug Insmed is working on will be something that can be used as a treatment for PCOS by itself kinda like Metformin, or is it something that can or should be used along ith Metformin? There would have been no way for me to have gone to the conference, but I sure would have liked to… maybe in the future ) . God Bless You  <*(((><       Carrie   ;o)~    from Oklahoma Carrie’s Home Page (PCOS) http://hometown.aol.com/cbraly2000/home.index.html For info. on treatment of PCOS with the drug Metformin go to this site… http://www.ivf.com/pcostreat.html

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