Carb count for Atkins Bars?

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The bars seem a little mysterious to me. Some have an extreme amount of carbs, yet that packaging indicates to ignore all but 2 or 3 grams (depending on the bar. Some bars say "Net Atkins Count" as a certain number: like 2.6 and the count on the label IS 2.6, but there are 2 grams of fiber. Subtract the fiber????? or no? hmmm??? Curious Thanks, RSG

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The bars seem a little mysterious to me. Some have an extreme amount of carbs, yet that packaging indicates to ignore all but 2 or 3 grams (depending on the bar. Some bars say "Net Atkins Count" as a certain number: like 2.6 and the count on the label IS 2.6, but there are 2 grams of fiber. Subtract the fiber????? or no?

IIRC, the "net" count is how many are left *after* you take out fiber, sugar alcohols, etc. (those which don’t contribute to one’s glucose level). HTH-JM

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ok I have a question for this ng. I know many here eat these bars and I know many here seem to stall when they eat these bars.  Is there anyone here that consistently loses 2 pounds or more a week that includes these bars in their regular menu?  If so do you eat them daily, everyother day or weekly. Nothing scientific, I’m just curious. thanks Sheila http://turkeylady0.tripod.com

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – The bars seem a little mysterious to me. Some have an extreme amount of carbs, yet that packaging indicates to ignore all but 2 or 3 grams (depending on the bar. Some bars say "Net Atkins Count" as a certain number: like 2.6 and the count on the label IS 2.6, but there are 2 grams of fiber. Subtract the fiber????? or no? hmmm??? Curious Thanks, RSG

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I eat them, but not more than 2 per week….when I need to go :) .  However, I WT and do cardio, so that helps me not stall.  I also regularly make Myra’s cheesecake.  Also, while it may run counter to conventional wisdom….I don’t want to lose weight too fast.  2 lbs per week is about right, if you ask me.  I feel rapid weight loss doesn’t lead to enough time to really get the change of lifestyle burnt deep into my inner soul. Okay…I’m lying.  I’d give anything if I could look good nekkid right now, dammit! <g.

:: ok I have a question for this ng. :: :: I know many here eat these bars and I know many here seem to stall :: when they eat these bars.  Is there anyone here that consistently :: loses 2 pounds or more a week that includes these bars in their :: regular menu?  If so do you eat them daily, everyother day or weekly. :: :: Nothing scientific, I’m just curious. :: :: thanks :: Sheila :: http://turkeylady0.tripod.com :: ::

::: The bars seem a little mysterious to me. ::: Some have an extreme amount of carbs, yet ::: that packaging indicates to ignore all but 2 or 3 grams (depending ::: on the bar. ::: Some bars say "Net Atkins Count" as a certain number: like 2.6 ::: and the count on the label IS 2.6, but there are 2 grams of fiber. ::: Subtract the fiber????? or no? ::: ::: hmmm??? ::: ::: ::: ::: ::: ::: Curious ::: ::: Thanks, RSG

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The bars seem a little mysterious to me. Some have an extreme amount of carbs, yet that packaging indicates to ignore all but 2 or 3 grams (depending on the bar. Some bars say "Net Atkins Count" as a certain number: like 2.6 and the count on the label IS 2.6, but there are 2 grams of fiber. Subtract the fiber????? or no?

No. Net means net. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – hmmm??? Curious Thanks, RSG

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The bars seem a little mysterious to me.

Oh, Thunderer, it’s you again.  The name, the inane Subject, the simplistic, provoking question, plus a "hmmm" from the "curious." Tell you what.  As you know, this subject has been address ad infinitim on this site.  If you’re really interesed, do a Google search for this group on on "Atkins Bars." Wildflower  (This is a no fly, no idiot, no troll zone)

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The bars seem a little mysterious to me. Some have an extreme amount of carbs, yet that packaging indicates to ignore all but 2 or 3 grams (depending on the bar. Some bars say "Net Atkins Count" as a certain number: like 2.6 and the count on the label IS 2.6, but there are 2 grams of fiber. Subtract the fiber????? or no? IIRC, the "net" count is how many are left *after* you take out fiber, sugar alcohols, etc. (those which don’t contribute to one’s glucose level).

But many people’s bodies metabolize them as carbs nonetheless.   The USDA rules about labeling for sugar alcohols are kind of odd and based on regulations around diabetic foods–more of a chemistry experiment than an observation of real-life eating habits. The only way to find out if *your* body thinks sugar alcohols are carbs is to eat them and see if they stall you. I count **all** the carbs, including the s.a.’s, whenever I eat a low-carb bar (which is only in emergencies when no other food is convenient).  Your mileage, of course, may vary. T.

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The bars seem a little mysterious to me. Oh, Thunderer, it’s you again.  The name, the inane Subject, the simplistic, provoking question, plus a "hmmm" from the "curious." Tell you what.  As you know, this subject has been address ad infinitim on this site.  If you’re really interesed, do a Google search for this group on on "Atkins Bars." Wildflower  (This is a no fly, no idiot, no troll zone)

What the hell? You aren’t one of those conspiracy theorists are you? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – The bars seem a little mysterious to me. Some have an extreme amount of carbs, yet that packaging indicates to ignore all but 2 or 3 grams (depending on the bar. Some bars say "Net Atkins Count" as a certain number: like 2.6 and the count on the label IS 2.6, but there are 2 grams of fiber. Subtract the fiber????? or no? IIRC, the "net" count is how many are left *after* you take out fiber, sugar alcohols, etc. (those which don’t contribute to one’s glucose level). But many people’s bodies metabolize them as carbs nonetheless. The USDA rules about labeling for sugar alcohols are kind of odd and based on regulations around diabetic foods–more of a chemistry experiment than an observation of real-life eating habits. The only way to find out if *your* body thinks sugar alcohols are carbs is to eat them and see if they stall you. I count **all** the carbs, including the s.a.’s, whenever I eat a low-carb bar (which is only in emergencies when no other food is convenient).  Your mileage, of course, may vary. T.

Makes sense. Thanks T.

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The bars seem a little mysterious to me.

That’s because you expect the label to be honest, yet there is big money in dishonesty. Some have an extreme amount of carbs, yet that packaging indicates to ignore all but 2 or 3 grams (depending on the bar. Some bars say "Net Atkins Count" as a certain number: like 2.6 and the count on the label IS 2.6, but there are 2 grams of fiber. Subtract the fiber????? or no?

Subtract the fiber, but in general do NOT subtract the sugar alcohol until you are *certain* that sugar alcohol does not effect you.  Here’s the deal: Sugar alcohols are digested by intestinal bacteria so humans absorb a percentage that’s basically a roll of the cide each time.  Might be low, might be almost all.  The conservative approach is to assume you’ll roll a six. The theory is that people who aren’t sensative to carbs will not get any effect from foods as low in glycemic index as sugar alcohols.  Folks posting on this newsgroup are virtually all sentsative to carbs.  Catch-22: The ones who can deduct the sugar alcohols in the bars are the ones buying Hershey bars and not getting fat.  The ones buying the low carb bars are paying big buck to have a label lie to them. Catch you on our other newsgroup, Robert! Doug Freyburger on Atkins since 1999-06-21

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ok I have a question for this ng. I know many here eat these bars and I know many here seem to stall when they eat these bars.  Is there anyone here that consistently loses 2 pounds or more a week that includes these bars in their regular menu?  If so do you eat them daily, everyother day or weekly. Nothing scientific, I’m just curious.

I usually have one bar a day……either carb solutions or pure de-lite, been losing 2-4 pounds a week regulary. Tom 280/250/180  started 9/9.02 – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – thanks Sheila http://turkeylady0.tripod.com The bars seem a little mysterious to me. Some have an extreme amount of carbs, yet that packaging indicates to ignore all but 2 or 3 grams (depending on the bar. Some bars say "Net Atkins Count" as a certain number: like 2.6 and the count on the label IS 2.6, but there are 2 grams of fiber. Subtract the fiber????? or no? hmmm??? Curious Thanks, RSG

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – The bars seem a little mysterious to me. That’s because you expect the label to be honest, yet there is big money in dishonesty. Some have an extreme amount of carbs, yet that packaging indicates to ignore all but 2 or 3 grams (depending on the bar. Some bars say "Net Atkins Count" as a certain number: like 2.6 and the count on the label IS 2.6, but there are 2 grams of fiber. Subtract the fiber????? or no? Subtract the fiber, but in general do NOT subtract the sugar alcohol until you are *certain* that sugar alcohol does not effect you.  Here’s the deal: Sugar alcohols are digested by intestinal bacteria so humans absorb a percentage that’s basically a roll of the cide each time.  Might be low, might be almost all.  The conservative approach is to assume you’ll roll a six. The theory is that people who aren’t sensative to carbs will not get any effect from foods as low in glycemic index as sugar alcohols.  Folks posting on this newsgroup are virtually all sentsative to carbs.  Catch-22: The ones who can deduct the sugar alcohols in the bars are the ones buying Hershey bars and not getting fat.  The ones buying the low carb bars are paying big buck to have a label lie to them.

That’s kinda what I was thinking. By the way, how much have you lost. Catch you on our other newsgroup, Robert!

Excellent. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Doug Freyburger on Atkins since 1999-06-21

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See, this has not been my experience. I am pretty obviously one of those who don’t deal with carbs well–PCOS and fat since kindergarten. Maltitol has not slowed weight loss or messed me up in any way. I have lost 30# in just over three months, and I don’t think I could have done it without the maltitol. :-)

 The ones who can deduct the sugar alcohols in the bars are the ones buying Hershey bars and not getting fat.  The ones buying the low carb bars are paying big buck to have a label lie to them. Catch you on our other newsgroup, Robert! Doug Freyburger on Atkins since 1999-06-21

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The bars seem a little mysterious to me. Some have an extreme amount of carbs, yet that packaging indicates to ignore all but 2 or 3 grams (depending on the bar. Some bars say "Net Atkins Count" as a certain number: like 2.6 and the count on the label IS 2.6, but there are 2 grams of fiber. Subtract the fiber????? or no?

Just to clarify:  If a product has a "net carb count" listed, they have already deducted ALL of the indigestible carbs to reach that net count, including fiber.  So that is your final count. But on most other products, you still can deduct the fiber carbs. Reb

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Doug Freyburger wroteL The ones who can deduct the sugar alcohols in the bars are the ones buying Hershey bars and not getting fat.  The ones buying the low carb bars are paying big buck to have a label lie to them. See, this has not been my experience. I am pretty obviously one of those who don’t deal with carbs well–PCOS and fat since kindergarten. Maltitol has not slowed weight loss or messed me up in any way. I have lost 30# in just over three months, and I don’t think I could have done it without the maltitol. :-)

YMMV.  I give very conservative advice.  That makes my advice to count 100% of sugar alcohol carbs too conservative for you.  There will be enough folks that need to count them all, especially newbies.  Conservative advice is needed by some and it too strict for others.

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