blood sugar reading advice
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I read that sugar spills over into the blood at something above 180.
As in all things diabetic, the range of variability is large. The most often quoted threshold figure is 240, but there are people who pass glucose at almost normal levels and those who don’t at severely elevated levels. A request, when you respond to a post edit the included material from the last post so that only the relevent portions are left. It makes life easier for those reading your post and especially those who are paying for every byte that crosses their phone line. — Charly Coughran
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There is a middle ground, which is to quote from enough of the previous post to give a context, without reproducing the whole thing. This is particularly a good idea if the post you are responding to is a lengthy one. Harper *** Robin Carroll-Mann To email me, remove the fish from my address Type II, dx’d 8/96, diet & exercise "Mostly Harmless" — Douglas Adams
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – These are my fasting blood glucose readings and I am wondering if they make me technically diabetic. I am an overweight 35 year old female with polycystic ovarian disease. My doctor has had me keep track of my fasting blood sugar readings for the last two weeks since I had a urine test that showed sugar in my urine. 114 113 122 X 148 105 103 X 130 122 125 125 116 116 110
The two I’ve marked with an X are clearly in the diabetic range. However, if you used a home blood glucose testing device to measure whole blood, chances are that all your readings are actually somewhat higher. The standard for an initial diagnosis of diabetes is a fasting **plasma** glucose (FPG) of 126mg/dl or above on two separate days. (A laboratory uses plasma rather than whole blood to measure BG.) In any event, your readings are high enough to warrant further testing — probably via a glycosolated hemoglobin (HbA1C) test, which measures your blood sugar level over the past three months. dkc [posted & e-mailed] David Cohler, South Pasadena, CA Media Access Consultancy http://members.tripod.com/~dcohler/media.htm [To reply by e-mail, delete "removeme." -- including the extra "."]
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Being diabetic myself and finding out I was so after many years of unwitting damage to my feet and toes, I only wish somone had suggested diabetes when knowing about it early on might have made a difference. Dear friend, assume you have diabetes now and change the manner in which you live immediately. Another week, another year, is too long to wonder and to continue down the possible path to disaster. Assume that a improved diet, a small amount of regular exercise and close monitoring of your blood sugar, is probably what EVERYONE should be doing. If you agree with my position, then make these changes for you…NOW. As for your meter readings. Sure, they reflect a glucose problem…but, then, they may reflect a problem elsewhere, too. Until you know for sure, consider the future of your eyes, your liver, your toes and feet, and get on with improving your health habits while you till have the time. Most sincerely, Jack – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – These are my blood glucose readings and I am wondering if they make me technically diabetic. I am an overweight 35 year old female with polycystic ovarian disease. My doctor has had me keep track of my fasting blood sugar readings for the last two weeks since I had a urine test that showed sugar in my urine. 114 113 122 148 105 103 130 122 125 125 116 116 110 All of these were first thing in the morning with at least 10 hours since eating anything. On most of these days, I’m ashamed to say, I didn’t do much if any excercise other than my normal daily activity of housecleaning, errands, etc. There’s one fairly high reading there, but generally speaking, you’re in the borderline high range. Stereotypes tell us that Type 2 diabetes most commonly appears in the 40s, and if you are fat and have poly, it’s a fairly reasonable conjecture that you are developing diabetes. Mind you, diabetes is only diagnosed when the body is no longer able to compensate. The disorder is causing damage long before that. They find damage from diabetic retinopathy occurring a half-dozen years before diabetes can be diagnosed. And don’t apologize about exercising. It is *not* necessary the activity to be mindless and useless in order for it to "count". Ditch diggers and hod carriers get the benefit of that heavy labor, even if they didn’t have to spend a fortune at the gym. Deke —- Nice Guys. Not Married. And they like women with curves. Sound like you? Join us at GenerousCity. Search the profiles. Talk on our Discussion list, or join us for live chat. And you *never* pay anything. http://generous.net
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I read that sugar spills over into the blood at something above 180.
This was obviously a typo. Sugar spills over into *URINE* at something over 180 mg/dL. It varies from person to person, as well. — Nico Kadel-Garcia, ne’ Garcia <PGP is obviously a good idea: look at who objects to it.
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I read that sugar spills over into the blood at something above 180. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – These are my blood glucose readings and I am wondering if they make me technically diabetic. I am an overweight 35 year old female with polycystic ovarian disease. My doctor has had me keep track of my fasting blood sugar readings for the last two weeks since I had a urine test that showed sugar in my urine. 114 113 122 148 105 103 130 122 125 125 116 116 110 All of these were first thing in the morning with at least 10 hours since eating anything. On most of these days, I’m ashamed to say, I didn’t do much if any excercise other than my normal daily activity of housecleaning, errands, etc. None of those are outrageous. Fasting is supposed to be 80-126. You went over only a couple of times, and those readings could be attributed to just bad tests (the meters are not perfect). You do seem to be at the top of the range, though. Spilling sugar into the urine doesn’t usually happen unless the level is ~300 or more. I wonder what caused that to happen. You might try a different kind of test. Normal range before meals should be 80-110 or so, peaking at about 140-150 at ~1.5 hours after a meal. There is a lot of individual variation — some nondiabetics peak as high as 180 after a meal, but that is the absolute highest one should be without being considered diabetic. What you could do is drive your BG down to the floor by going for a long hike on an empty stomach. Have a meal ready to eat when you return. Make it a normal type meal with a good balance of carbs, protein, fat, etc. Write down what the meal consists of for possible future discussion with your doc. Test yourself as soon as you get back, then eat. Continue testing yourself every fifteen minutes for the first couple of hours. Take a look at the results. It should show a nice gentle curve up to about 140-150, then gradually fall back to 110-120 or so and stay there until you start feeling hungry again. If you see something remarkably different, show the results to your doc. Most authorities feel that damage from running high blood sugars isn’t excessive until you are over 180 or so. Some doc’s like a little lower limit. Most of us shoot for being under 150 with an average of 110-120, but few of us are anywhere near good enough to accomplish that goal. NOTICE: The e-mail address is deliberately incorrect. Make the ISP read "nwpacifica.net" by adding a "w."
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Being diabetic myself and finding out I was so after many years of unwitting damage to my feet and toes, I only wish somone had suggested diabetes when knowing about it early on might have made a difference. Dear friend, assume you have diabetes now and change the manner in which you live immediately. Another week, another year, is too long to wonder and to continue down the possible path to disaster. Assume that a improved diet, a small amount of regular exercise and close monitoring of your blood sugar, is probably what EVERYONE should be doing. If you agree with my position, then make these changes for you…NOW. As for your meter readings. Sure, they reflect a glucose problem…but, then, they may reflect a problem elsewhere, too. Until you know for sure, consider the future of your eyes, your liver, your toes and feet, and get on with improving your health habits while you till have the time. Mot sincerely, Jack – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – These are my blood glucose readings and I am wondering if they make me technically diabetic. I am an overweight 35 year old female with polycystic ovarian disease. My doctor has had me keep track of my fasting blood sugar readings for the last two weeks since I had a urine test that showed sugar in my urine. 114 113 122 148 105 103 130 122 125 125 116 116 110 All of these were first thing in the morning with at least 10 hours since eating anything. On most of these days, I’m ashamed to say, I didn’t do much if any excercise other than my normal daily activity of housecleaning, errands, etc. There’s one fairly high reading there, but generally speaking, you’re in the borderline high range. Stereotypes tell us that Type 2 diabetes most commonly appears in the 40s, and if you are fat and have poly, it’s a fairly reasonable conjecture that you are developing diabetes. Mind you, diabetes is only diagnosed when the body is no longer able to compensate. The disorder is causing damage long before that. They find damage from diabetic retinopathy occurring a half-dozen years before diabetes can be diagnosed. And don’t apologize about exercising. It is *not* necessary the activity to be mindless and useless in order for it to "count". Ditch diggers and hod carriers get the benefit of that heavy labor, even if they didn’t have to spend a fortune at the gym. Deke —- Nice Guys. Not Married. And they like women with curves. Sound like you? Join us at GenerousCity. Search the profiles. Talk on our Discussion list, or join us for live chat. And you *never* pay anything. http://generous.net
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -These are my blood glucose readings and I am wondering if they make me technically diabetic. I am an overweight 35 year old female with polycystic ovarian disease. My doctor has had me keep track of my fasting blood sugar readings for the last two weeks since I had a urine test that showed sugar in my urine. 114 113 122 148 105 103 130 122 125 125 116 116 110 All of these were first thing in the morning with at least 10 hours since eating anything. On most of these days, I’m ashamed to say, I didn’t do much if any excercise other than my normal daily activity of housecleaning, errands, etc.
None of those are outrageous. Fasting is supposed to be 80-126. You went over only a couple of times, and those readings could be attributed to just bad tests (the meters are not perfect). You do seem to be at the top of the range, though. Spilling sugar into the urine doesn’t usually happen unless the level is ~300 or more. I wonder what caused that to happen. You might try a different kind of test. Normal range before meals should be 80-110 or so, peaking at about 140-150 at ~1.5 hours after a meal. There is a lot of individual variation — some nondiabetics peak as high as 180 after a meal, but that is the absolute highest one should be without being considered diabetic. What you could do is drive your BG down to the floor by going for a long hike on an empty stomach. Have a meal ready to eat when you return. Make it a normal type meal with a good balance of carbs, protein, fat, etc. Write down what the meal consists of for possible future discussion with your doc. Test yourself as soon as you get back, then eat. Continue testing yourself every fifteen minutes for the first couple of hours. Take a look at the results. It should show a nice gentle curve up to about 140-150, then gradually fall back to 110-120 or so and stay there until you start feeling hungry again. If you see something remarkably different, show the results to your doc. Most authorities feel that damage from running high blood sugars isn’t excessive until you are over 180 or so. Some doc’s like a little lower limit. Most of us shoot for being under 150 with an average of 110-120, but few of us are anywhere near good enough to accomplish that goal. NOTICE: The e-mail address is deliberately incorrect. Make the ISP read "nwpacifica.net" by adding a "w."
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According to current standards a fasting plasma blood glucose level in excesss of 125 mg/dl qualifies you as being diabetic. While you don’t specify wheter the BG readings you report were taken with a meter that gives a whole blood or plasma BG reading, the 148 would be sufficiently high in either case and, if your meter gives a whole blood measurement, most likely some of the other readings would be in excess of 125 mg/dl too if converted to a plasma-based measurement. IDDM, dx’d 6/72, MI (R, H & U)
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Mind you, diabetes is only diagnosed when the body is no longer able to compensate. The disorder is causing damage long before that. They find damage from diabetic retinopathy occurring a half-dozen years before diabetes can be diagnosed.
I haven’t found that to be true. Diabetic retinopathy is easy to identify, and when it’s found in a person not known to have diabetes, doctors usually suspect the diabetes has been there a while. -MT — Mike Tyner, OD Office (205)870-5068 519 Brookwood Village Fax (205)870-5067
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – These are my blood glucose readings and I am wondering if they make me technically diabetic. I am an overweight 35 year old female with polycystic ovarian disease. My doctor has had me keep track of my fasting blood sugar readings for the last two weeks since I had a urine test that showed sugar in my urine. 114 113 122 148 105 103 130 122 125 125 116 116 110 All of these were first thing in the morning with at least 10 hours since eating anything. On most of these days, I’m ashamed to say, I didn’t do much if any excercise other than my normal daily activity of housecleaning, errands, etc.
Since these were presumably done with a home glucose meter, no definitive diagnosis can be made. Home glucose meters are normally thought to be 15% devices and with that spread you could be in the. normal range, have impared fasting glucose, or diabetes. The readings are high enough, however, to suggest followup testing with either a HbA1c and/or an oral glucose tolerance test. — Charly Coughran
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -These are my blood glucose readings and I am wondering if they make me technically diabetic. I am an overweight 35 year old female with polycystic ovarian disease. My doctor has had me keep track of my fasting blood sugar readings for the last two weeks since I had a urine test that showed sugar in my urine. 114 113 122 148 105 103 130 122 125 125 116 116 110 All of these were first thing in the morning
If those are whole blood readings rather than plasma readings (like the kind you get at a lab), there’s a chance you’re diabetic. Have your doctor order you a glycosillated hemoglobin (HBA1c) test for further information. That will show you your approximate average blood glucose reading for the last couple of months. — Stef ** rational/scientific/philosophical/mystical/magical/kitty ** Type II, dx Apr 98, lo carb & exercise
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These are my blood glucose readings and I am wondering if they make me technically diabetic. I am an overweight 35 year old female with polycystic ovarian disease. My doctor has had me keep track of my fasting blood sugar readings for the last two weeks since I had a urine test that showed sugar in my urine. 114 113 122 148 105 103 130 122 125 125 116 116 110 All of these were first thing in the morning with at least 10 hours since eating anything. On most of these days, I’m ashamed to say, I didn’t do much if any excercise other than my normal daily activity of housecleaning, errands, etc. There’s one fairly high reading there, but generally speaking, you’re in the borderline high range. Stereotypes tell us that Type 2 diabetes most commonly appears in the 40s, and if you are fat and have poly, it’s a fairly reasonable conjecture that you are developing diabetes. Mind you, diabetes is only diagnosed when the body is no longer able to compensate. The disorder is causing damage long before that. They find damage from diabetic retinopathy occurring a half-dozen years before diabetes can be diagnosed. And don’t apologize about exercising. It is *not* necessary the activity to be mindless and useless in order for it to "count". Ditch diggers and hod carriers get the benefit of that heavy labor, even if they didn’t have to spend a fortune at the gym. Deke —- Nice Guys. Not Married. And they like women with curves. Sound like you? Join us at GenerousCity. Search the profiles. Talk on our Discussion list, or join us for live chat. And you *never* pay anything. http://generous.net
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These are my blood glucose readings and I am wondering if they make me technically diabetic. I am an overweight 35 year old female with polycystic ovarian disease. My doctor has had me keep track of my fasting blood sugar readings for the last two weeks since I had a urine test that showed sugar in my urine. 114 113 122 148 105 103 130 122 125 125 116 116 110 All of these were first thing in the morning with at least 10 hours since eating anything. On most of these days, I’m ashamed to say, I didn’t do much if any excercise other than my normal daily activity of housecleaning, errands, etc. Thanks for your advice, Holly
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – These are my blood glucose readings and I am wondering if they make me technically diabetic. I am an overweight 35 year old female with polycystic ovarian disease. My doctor has had me keep track of my fasting blood sugar readings for the last two weeks since I had a urine test that showed sugar in my urine. 114 113 122 148 105 103 130 122 125 125 116 116 110 All of these were first thing in the morning with at least 10 hours since eating anything. On most of these days, I’m ashamed to say, I didn’t do much if any excercise other than my normal daily activity of housecleaning, errands, etc. Thanks for your advice, Holly
Holly, Your readings are excellent but you need to check your bg’s about 2 hours after you have had each of your meals. This would be more of an accurate test as to whether you are prone to diabetes or not. Good luck. — * Tom M Derry, NH * * http://www.angelfire.com/biz/sostpm *
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