Filed under: Polycystic Ovarian Syndrome
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I just started CAD on Saturday and I’ve already lost 5 pounds. God help me lose the 80 more I have to go. Lisa congrats to you lisa, i hope you stick around and read and post with us on a daily basis! — read and post daily! rosie
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I have PCOS as well & have been taking Glucophage since 1999. I have skin tags, skin darkening & IR. If you stick with the Glucophage long enough, the digestive problems should go away. I just started CAD on Saturday and I’ve already lost 5 pounds. God help me lose the 80 more I have to go. Lisa I have PCOS as well, and was diagnosed IR in 200. This is from my own personal experience: LC cannot take away insulin resistance – your body is always going to react badly to carbs. Lowcarbing does help the *symptoms*, though, which you have already noticed. And yes, IR can absolutely make you stall out – your body is confused and doesn’t know how to deal with any foods, especially carbs. As for the Metformin, I was in the same situation. My endocrinologist suggested taking an Immodium with each pill for the first 2 weeks of the prescription, and making sure you take it halfway through a high-protein meal. That really helped me. Cassie 295/295/150 I have a question: I used to take Glucophage for the IR and PCOS but the back door trots got so bad it became overwhelming and all consumming rendering mef a prisoner of the bathroom and staying home more so that I already was. I am Severely IR and was wondering something. Could my IR be stalling me? If I took up my Glucophage again do you think I would lose weight better? I’m asking because I know LC’ing is good for IR but it doesnt reverse it does it? I have noticed something with LCing this short time already though and that is.. I have some of the classical physical signs of IR with a skin darkening condition called Acanthosis Nigricans, a bit on my neck, under my breasts, my belly and arm pits. You know what?… it has all lightened up already and the stuff on my neck is gone. I still have the skin tags though that are common with IR people also. Im going to have them all cut off and see if they grow back as fast now that am LC’ing also. Thanks Laureen 14/382/200 LC’in since 11/01/01 http://community.webtv.net/larryandlaureen/LaureensLowCarb
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I’ve been on Metformin for two years now. After the first two weeks, the digestive problems went away. I also lost 25 lbs. during the first two months on it. Unfortunately, I don’t have the benefit from it any more. I also have the skin darkening and facial hair problem that frequently comes with the IR and PCOS. I did very well when I was on Atkins 18 months ago. I lost over 40 lbs. in 6 months, but then went off for some unknown reason and have gained most of it back. I am trying to get myself geared up to restart Atkins again as I would like to see a size 18 for the first time in 10 years. Don’t worry too much about the trots. They will go away as soon as your body adjusts to the Met. The Imodium sounds like a good idea. Good luck! Jeanette
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I have PCOS as well & have been taking Glucophage since 1999. I have skin tags, skin darkening & IR. If you stick with the Glucophage long enough, the digestive problems should go away. I just started CAD on Saturday and I’ve already lost 5 pounds. God help me lose the 80 more I have to go. Lisa I have PCOS as well, and was diagnosed IR in 200. This is from my own personal experience: LC cannot take away insulin resistance – your body is always going to react badly to carbs. Lowcarbing does help the *symptoms*, though, which you have already noticed. And yes, IR can absolutely make you stall out – your body is confused and doesn’t know how to deal with any foods, especially carbs. As for the Metformin, I was in the same situation. My endocrinologist suggested taking an Immodium with each pill for the first 2 weeks of the prescription, and making sure you take it halfway through a high-protein meal. That really helped me. Cassie 295/295/150 I have a question: I used to take Glucophage for the IR and PCOS but the back door trots got so bad it became overwhelming and all consumming rendering mef a prisoner of the bathroom and staying home more so that I already was. I am Severely IR and was wondering something. Could my IR be stalling me? If I took up my Glucophage again do you think I would lose weight better? I’m asking because I know LC’ing is good for IR but it doesnt reverse it does it? I have noticed something with LCing this short time already though and that is.. I have some of the classical physical signs of IR with a skin darkening condition called Acanthosis Nigricans, a bit on my neck, under my breasts, my belly and arm pits. You know what?… it has all lightened up already and the stuff on my neck is gone. I still have the skin tags though that are common with IR people also. Im going to have them all cut off and see if they grow back as fast now that am LC’ing also. Thanks Laureen 14/382/200 LC’in since 11/01/01 http://community.webtv.net/larryandlaureen/LaureensLowCarb
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Lisa – I have lots of skin tags and am IR. Is there anything I an do that you know of, to stop these things from forming? I am already low carbing… Dorothy
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Lisa – I have lots of skin tags and am IR. Is there anything I an do that you know of, to stop these things from forming? I am already low carbing… Dorothy
I have them too, I had to stop wearing anything that irritated my skin (no necklace chains and no lace on my bras; etc.) Now that I am low carb I do not seem to have any new ones — Dragon Mom started at size 28W, today wearing 18W, goal 16W started low carb Sept. 2000. 5′6" Female, age 50
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Dorothy, I do not know of anything to stop them. They seem to form in places that get rubbed. It might help to try not to have anything tight on, but that is difficult depending on your clothing & size. Do you have polycystic ovarian syndrome, you didn’t say, & your symptoms are two parts of PCOS. Lisa
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Lisa – I have lots of skin tags and am IR. Is there anything I an do that you know of, to stop these things from forming? I am already low carbing… Dorothy
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Hey, make sure you have your thyroid checked. I got quite a few on my neck before they found my thyroid was whacko. I started thyroid meds, had the doc snip the tags. She said I could use cuticle scissors and do it myself if they came back but they haven’t come back in the past 3 years or so. I can only attribute that to perhaps the thyroid. ConnieW
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Dorothy, I do not know of anything to stop them. They seem to form in places that get rubbed. It might help to try not to have anything tight on, but that is difficult depending on your clothing & size. Do you have polycystic ovarian syndrome, you didn’t say, & your symptoms are two parts of PCOS. Lisa Lisa – I have lots of skin tags and am IR. Is there anything I an do that you know of, to stop these things from forming? I am already low carbing… Dorothy
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I had my thyroid tested last year but it may be time to do it again. Dorothy
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I have PCOS as well & have been taking Glucophage since 1999. I have skin tags, skin darkening & IR. If you stick with the Glucophage long enough, the digestive problems should go away. I just started CAD on Saturday and I’ve already lost 5 pounds. God help me lose the 80 more I have to go. Lisa – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I have PCOS as well, and was diagnosed IR in 200. This is from my own personal experience: LC cannot take away insulin resistance – your body is always going to react badly to carbs. Lowcarbing does help the *symptoms*, though, which you have already noticed. And yes, IR can absolutely make you stall out – your body is confused and doesn’t know how to deal with any foods, especially carbs. As for the Metformin, I was in the same situation. My endocrinologist suggested taking an Immodium with each pill for the first 2 weeks of the prescription, and making sure you take it halfway through a high-protein meal. That really helped me. Cassie 295/295/150 I have a question: I used to take Glucophage for the IR and PCOS but the back door trots got so bad it became overwhelming and all consumming rendering mef a prisoner of the bathroom and staying home more so that I already was. I am Severely IR and was wondering something. Could my IR be stalling me? If I took up my Glucophage again do you think I would lose weight better? I’m asking because I know LC’ing is good for IR but it doesnt reverse it does it? I have noticed something with LCing this short time already though and that is.. I have some of the classical physical signs of IR with a skin darkening condition called Acanthosis Nigricans, a bit on my neck, under my breasts, my belly and arm pits. You know what?… it has all lightened up already and the stuff on my neck is gone. I still have the skin tags though that are common with IR people also. Im going to have them all cut off and see if they grow back as fast now that am LC’ing also. Thanks Laureen 14/382/200 LC’in since 11/01/01 http://community.webtv.net/larryandlaureen/LaureensLowCarb
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I have PCOS as well, and was diagnosed IR in 200. This is from my own personal experience: LC cannot take away insulin resistance – your body is always going to react badly to carbs. Lowcarbing does help the *symptoms*, though, which you have already noticed. And yes, IR can absolutely make you stall out – your body is confused and doesn’t know how to deal with any foods, especially carbs. As for the Metformin, I was in the same situation. My endocrinologist suggested taking an Immodium with each pill for the first 2 weeks of the prescription, and making sure you take it halfway through a high-protein meal. That really helped me. Cassie 295/295/150
I have a question: I used to take Glucophage for the IR and PCOS but the back door trots got so bad it became overwhelming and all consumming rendering mef a prisoner of the bathroom and staying home more so that I already was. I am Severely IR and was wondering something. Could my IR be stalling me? If I took up my Glucophage again do you think I would lose weight better? I’m asking because I know LC’ing is good for IR but it doesnt reverse it does it? I have noticed something with LCing this short time already though and that is.. I have some of the classical physical signs of IR with a skin darkening condition called Acanthosis Nigricans, a bit on my neck, under my breasts, my belly and arm pits. You know what?… it has all lightened up already and the stuff on my neck is gone. I still have the skin tags though that are common with IR people also. Im going to have them all cut off and see if they grow back as fast now that am LC’ing also. Thanks Laureen 14/382/200 LC’in since 11/01/01 http://community.webtv.net/larryandlaureen/LaureensLowCarb
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Low carbing alone can improve insulin resistance. I have been low carbing since 9/98, and all my symptoms are gone. My lab work is perfect. essense I’m asking because I know LC’ing is good for IR but it doesnt reverse it does it? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –
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Laureen, LC doesn’t reverse IR per se. What it does do is keep you from pushing out all that insulin in response to the carbs you were eating. You’re not eating the carbs now so there is no need for the big insulin rush.
And this is probably what makes us feel better too. I wouldn’t doubt that. :) Miss Jaime
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I had no idea that skin tags were a sign of IR. I know I have skin tags and am pretty sure I am IR. Please tell me where I can learn more about the "signs" of IR. Thanks. Dorothy
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For me, I cannot lose unless I take Met also (at this stage). I am severely IR and so, I suspect I will have to use both for a while till my weight drops and my IR improves. I am also weight training, so I am trying to "hit" the IR on all fronts – diet, weight training and Met. I think it is all very subjective as to your personal level of IR and how your body responds to diet alone in reducing your insulin. Squeezle
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I have a question: I used to take Glucophage for the IR and PCOS but the back door trots got so bad it became overwhelming and all consumming rendering mef a prisoner of the bathroom and staying home more so that I already was. I am Severely IR and was wondering something. Could my IR be stalling me? If I took up my Glucophage again do you think I would lose weight better? I’m asking because I know LC’ing is good for IR but it doesnt reverse it does it? I have noticed something with LCing this short time already though and that is.. I have some of the classical physical signs of IR with a skin darkening condition called Acanthosis Nigricans, a bit on my neck, under my breasts, my belly and arm pits. You know what?… it has all lightened up already and the stuff on my neck is gone. I still have the skin tags though that are common with IR people also. Im going to have them all cut off and see if they grow back as fast now that am LC’ing also. Thanks Laureen 14/382/200 LC’in since 11/01/01 http://community.webtv.net/larryandlaureen/LaureensLowCarb
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I have a question: I used to take Glucophage for the IR and PCOS but the back door trots got so bad it became overwhelming and all consumming rendering mef a prisoner of the bathroom and staying home more so that I already was. I am Severely IR and was wondering something. Could my IR be stalling me? If I took up my Glucophage again do you think I would lose weight better? I’m asking because I know LC’ing is good for IR but it doesnt reverse it does it? No I don’t think LC reverses it because if we (who have PCOS) eat carby foods again and/or get back into our old eating habits the IR is still there and still causes problems. I cannot answer your question about the Glucophage as I have never taken it myself. I have noticed something with LCing this short time already though and that is.. I have some of the classical physical signs of IR with a skin darkening condition called Acanthosis Nigricans, a bit on my neck, under my breasts, my belly and arm pits. You know what?… it has all lightened up already and the stuff on my neck is gone. I still have the skin tags though that are common with IR people also. Im going to have them all cut off and see if they grow back as fast now that am LC’ing also. You know I just took a look and mine has lightened up as well. It used to be really dark under my breasts before but it’s faded somewhat. I don’t get the skin tags but my mom has them but then all we Cysters don’t all get the same symptoms which of course makes PCOS so difficult for doctors to diagnose even when we ourselves know that something isn’t right for years even.
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I have a question: I used to take Glucophage for the IR and PCOS but the back door trots got so bad it became overwhelming and all consumming rendering mef a prisoner of the bathroom and staying home more so that I already was. I am Severely IR and was wondering something. Could my IR be stalling me? If I took up my Glucophage again do you think I would lose weight better? I’m asking because I know LC’ing is good for IR but it doesnt reverse it does it? I have noticed something with LCing this short time already though and that is.. I have some of the classical physical signs of IR with a skin darkening condition called Acanthosis Nigricans, a bit on my neck, under my breasts, my belly and arm pits. You know what?… it has all lightened up already and the stuff on my neck is gone. I still have the skin tags though that are common with IR people also. Im going to have them all cut off and see if they grow back as fast now that am LC’ing also. Thanks Laureen 14/382/200 LC’in since 11/01/01 http://community.webtv.net/larryandlaureen/LaureensLowCarb
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1) My new computer suffers from sudden crashes. After working for about an hour my computer crashes. The mouse just freezes along with the whole screen. I leterally can’t do anyting. CTRL ALT and DEL fails. The only thing I can do is off at the power. Any ideas or solutions? My spec are very high so I would have thought this would be uncommon. Does it harm my PC turning it off at the mains? 2) Also when I dial into the internet there is about a 10 second pause between the dialing tone coming up and the number being dialed. Its quite annoying. Any ways to reduce this time? 3) Also in schelduled tasks I have Tune Up Application Start which is set to run on the first Wednesday of each new month. What is it? Any harm in deleting it? It is found in windowstasksTune-up Application Start.jub Please help Thanks Richard
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Ummm… methinks that you have made the same mistake a friend of mine did, when coming across a book with PCOS in the title. ‘Ooooh!’ he said, ‘Personal Computer Operating Systems – how interesting!’ He took the book from the shelf, examined the cover, turned a violent shade of puce and changed the subject. Quickly. PCOS = Polycystic Ovarian Syndrome. Feminine disorders. *S* On Thu, 11 Oct 2001 23:56:42 +0100, "Richard Berman" – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -<ber…@jberman.fsnet.co.uk> wrote: >1) My new computer suffers from sudden crashes. After working for about an >hour my computer crashes. The mouse just freezes along with the whole >screen. I leterally can’t do anyting. CTRL ALT and DEL fails. The only thing >I can do is off at the power. Any ideas or solutions? My spec are very high >so I would have thought this would be uncommon. Does it harm my PC turning >it off at the mains? >2) Also when I dial into the internet there is about a 10 second pause >between the dialing tone coming up and the number being dialed. Its quite >annoying. Any ways to reduce this time? >3) Also in schelduled tasks I have Tune Up Application Start which is set to >run on the first Wednesday of each new month. What is it? Any harm in >deleting it? It is found in windowstasksTune-up Application Start.jub >Please help >Thanks >Richard
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*grins* yah but stick around, for about $225.00 an hour my husband will gladly fix all those issues for you 
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news:3bc62bc2.32827185@news.freeserve.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Ummm… methinks that you have made the same mistake a friend of mine > did, when coming across a book with PCOS in the title. > ‘Ooooh!’ he said, ‘Personal Computer Operating Systems – how > interesting!’ He took the book from the shelf, examined the cover, > turned a violent shade of puce and changed the subject. Quickly. > PCOS = Polycystic Ovarian Syndrome. Feminine disorders. *S* > On Thu, 11 Oct 2001 23:56:42 +0100, "Richard Berman" > <ber…@jberman.fsnet.co.uk> wrote: > >1) My new computer suffers from sudden crashes. After working for about an > >hour my computer crashes. The mouse just freezes along with the whole > >screen. I leterally can’t do anyting. CTRL ALT and DEL fails. The only thing > >I can do is off at the power. Any ideas or solutions? My spec are very high > >so I would have thought this would be uncommon. Does it harm my PC turning > >it off at the mains? > >2) Also when I dial into the internet there is about a 10 second pause > >between the dialing tone coming up and the number being dialed. Its quite > >annoying. Any ways to reduce this time? > >3) Also in schelduled tasks I have Tune Up Application Start which is set to > >run on the first Wednesday of each new month. What is it? Any harm in > >deleting it? It is found in windowstasksTune-up Application Start.jub > >Please help > >Thanks > >Richard
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The only compelling health reason I have is that I’m too heavy and I’m afraid I’ll be called home before my time. Other than the weight, I’m relatively healthy. But I want to nip any potential problems in the bud. I also want to keep up with my kids. I’m 10 pounds lighter than I was last week. That’s a good start, I think. Brian
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi Brian, Yikes. I think I’m glad I don’t have to worry about that. Thanks for the information. I’ve seen it a bit around here, and didn’t have a clue to what it referred to. Yup, you can just breath a sigh of relief and bypass those threads…. Thanks. I’ve been back a couple of times since my first successful attempt at low-carbing. But they didn’t take. This time I feel differently. I am noticing change, and I really want it to work. I think I’ll be here for a bit. Stick around this time. I just passed my two year mark, made goal August 8th of this year (started at 246, goal was 160, present weight 145.5). There’s more of us ‘oldies" around than I would have thought. I’ve noticed that the ones most likely to stick around also tend to have compelling health reasons. Do you? Take care, Carmen
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That’s an excellent start Brian. Keep going. Take care, Carmen
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – The only compelling health reason I have is that I’m too heavy and I’m afraid I’ll be called home before my time. Other than the weight, I’m relatively healthy. But I want to nip any potential problems in the bud. I also want to keep up with my kids. I’m 10 pounds lighter than I was last week. That’s a good start, I think. Brian Hi Brian, Yikes. I think I’m glad I don’t have to worry about that. Thanks for the information. I’ve seen it a bit around here, and didn’t have a clue to what it referred to. Yup, you can just breath a sigh of relief and bypass those threads…. Thanks. I’ve been back a couple of times since my first successful attempt at low-carbing. But they didn’t take. This time I feel differently. I am noticing change, and I really want it to work. I think I’ll be here for a bit. Stick around this time. I just passed my two year mark, made goal August 8th of this year (started at 246, goal was 160, present weight 145.5). There’s more of us ‘oldies" around than I would have thought. I’ve noticed that the ones most likely to stick around also tend to have compelling health reasons. Do you? Take care, Carmen
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It seems I’ve been off this thing too long. Now there’s new terms to learn. So, what is PCOS? — Brian "These floors are so clean!" -Tech Sgt. Chen Galaxy Quest
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Hi Brian, Unless your parents were more creative than normal when they named you, PCOS isn’t something you need to worry about. It’s Polycystic Ovarian Syndrome, results (believed to anyway) from insulin resistance, and may result in any/all of the following fun things: cysts on the ovaries adult acne irregular or non existent menstrual cycles severe bleeding episodes facial hair/chest hair male pattern balding These charming things are the result of our bodies over producing male hormones. The reason it shows up here a lot is because (surprise!) low carbing helps keep insulin levels in check and helps some of us be a little more normal. There are a number of us here for that reason. Welcome back BTW, I recognized the name. Take care, Carmen
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – It seems I’ve been off this thing too long. Now there’s new terms to learn. So, what is PCOS? — Brian "These floors are so clean!" -Tech Sgt. Chen Galaxy Quest
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Yikes. I think I’m glad I don’t have to worry about that. Thanks for the information. I’ve seen it a bit around here, and didn’t have a clue to what it referred to. Thanks. I’ve been back a couple of times since my first successful attempt at low-carbing. But they didn’t take. This time I feel differently. I am noticing change, and I really want it to work. I think I’ll be here for a bit. Brian
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi Brian, Unless your parents were more creative than normal when they named you, PCOS isn’t something you need to worry about. It’s Polycystic Ovarian Syndrome, results (believed to anyway) from insulin resistance, and may result in any/all of the following fun things: cysts on the ovaries adult acne irregular or non existent menstrual cycles severe bleeding episodes facial hair/chest hair male pattern balding These charming things are the result of our bodies over producing male hormones. The reason it shows up here a lot is because (surprise!) low carbing helps keep insulin levels in check and helps some of us be a little more normal. There are a number of us here for that reason. Welcome back BTW, I recognized the name. Take care, Carmen It seems I’ve been off this thing too long. Now there’s new terms to learn. So, what is PCOS? — Brian "These floors are so clean!" -Tech Sgt. Chen Galaxy Quest
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Hi Brian,
Yikes. I think I’m glad I don’t have to worry about that. Thanks for the information. I’ve seen it a bit around here, and didn’t have a clue to what it referred to.
Yup, you can just breath a sigh of relief and bypass those threads…. Thanks. I’ve been back a couple of times since my first successful attempt at low-carbing. But they didn’t take. This time I feel differently. I am noticing change, and I really want it to work. I think I’ll be here for a bit.
Stick around this time. I just passed my two year mark, made goal August 8th of this year (started at 246, goal was 160, present weight 145.5). There’s more of us ‘oldies" around than I would have thought. I’ve noticed that the ones most likely to stick around also tend to have compelling health reasons. Do you? Take care, Carmen
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In article <20001211070318.01132.00003…@ng-cv1.aol.com>, edek439…@aol.comnospam (Kay) wrote: > -Kay > (who very much dislikes the term "cyster" …PCOS is an *endocrine* >disorder; > the term "cyster" is misleading and does not help educate the general >public, > IMO. Not everyone with PCOS has PAO, and vice versa).
I confess to using the term `cyster’ sometimes. It’s so darn cute, in a horrid sort of way. But I agree that it would do everyone some good to de-emphasize the ovaries in all this. Too many doctors are still treating PCOS as a cookie-cutter fertility problem rather than as a complex and ambiguous syndrome. I also hear from numerous women who have concluded that they don’t have PCOS because their US came out noncystic, and almost as many who ask me what I think a hysterectomy/oophorectomy will do for them, as if removing the cystic ovaries can cure the problem. Beth, (who has about 3-5 tiny cysts at any given time) — Beth’s PCO Page You Are Not Alone http://www.win.bright.net/~mickbeth/pco.htm Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.
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. I also hear from numerous women who >have concluded that they don’t have PCOS because their US came out >noncystic, and almost as many who ask me what I think a >hysterectomy/oophorectomy will do for them, as if removing the cystic >ovaries can cure the problem.
You know, i self diagnosed this almost four years ago, and my doctor wouldn’t believe me. I ended up getting pregnant and then breastfeeding, so my symptoms were really minimalized. I quit nursing a little over a year ago, and the symptoms slowly returned. My new general practitioner knew right away what I had, and ordered and ultrasound, which revealed nothing. It is a good thing he was familiar with this, though, because he just kept on with it and referred me to an endocrinologist. Not a RE, as I already have three children and my tubes tied… I wondered about removing the ovaries, but now I see that the whole of it is so much more! Jan
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You know, up until the last visit with my doctor and discussing fertility options with her, I had thought I would eventually have to have my ovaries removed. This is what I had been hearing from doctors and everyone around me for years. Many doctors still think of the ovaries as the root of the endocrine problem faced by women with pcos. I have had doctors tell me such, because the ovaries do produce small amounts of testosterone, etc… I have educated myself quite a bit on this disease, and sometimes my doctors as well, but I am really glad that this is one myth in which I no longer believe. Always, Lyssa smdesi…@townsqr.com
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The book, Polycystic Ovarian Syndrome (2000), sites the prevalence of PCO at 20%, and of PCOS at 5-10%… anyway, pco is when you have specifically cysts that are diagnosed with ultrasound whereas pcos is a syndrome (ie. various symptoms – none of them specifically characteristic, ie. you don’t need cysts to be diagnosed with PCOS) anyway, i thought that was interesting… Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.
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hehe, more statistics… 80% of obese PCOS sufferers had insulin resistance whereas only 30% of thin PCOS sufferers had insulin resistance… hrm, so even though unlikely it is still possible to be thin and have insulin resistance… Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.
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Wow I didn’t know their was a difference, guess I’m PCOS. Okay, but what’s PCOD?? Any difference there? rebekah — My Infertility and Miscarriage Website at: http://rebekahmichel19.tripod.com/rebekahsinfo/index.html "Hope is the thing with feathers, that perches on the soul. Sings the tunes without words and never fades at all" -emily dickinson wuzzy <wu…@my-deja.com> wrote in message
news:90ucs0$6j0$1@nnrp1.deja.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> The book, Polycystic Ovarian Syndrome (2000), sites the prevalence of > PCO at 20%, and of PCOS at 5-10%… > anyway, pco is when you have specifically cysts that are diagnosed with > ultrasound whereas pcos is a syndrome (ie. various symptoms – none of > them specifically characteristic, ie. you don’t need cysts to be > diagnosed with PCOS) > anyway, i thought that was interesting… > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > Before you buy.
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I didn’t know there was any difference in pco, pcos, and pcod. My doctor always refered to my condition as PCOD, but I have had doctors use it interchangably with PCOS… I have ovaries that appear polycystic (from lap and ultrasound) I have at least a dozen cysts. My ovaries are 3-4+ centimeters in diameter and have a waxy pearl-like coating. My hormones match the profile (I can’t recall it exactly). My DHEA level is very elevated (like 3x normal). I am insulin-resisitant, obese, and have hirsutism. I have been led to believe that these are all symptoms of polycystic ovarian disease and does not include the other effects like the migraines and such that I suffer from. There is also another name for this condition, when it was first discovered, it was called Stein-Leventhal syndrome after the docters who found it when studying ovarian wedge resection techniques. I had one of those two during my second lap.. it was really funny, the doctor called it "ovarian wedge resection by wiffle-ball technique" seriously.. I guess this is what you guys have referred to as ovarian drilling. Always, Lyssa smdesi…@townsqr.com
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I’ve read where a lot of cysters suffer from migraines…It shows up in many, many stories on my site… Sincerely, Kat www.SoulCysters.com "Women with PCOS speak from the heart" Syrenslure’s Fan Fiction <love2wa…@softhome.net> wrote in message news:90v799$19e$0@208.207.68.3… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I didn’t know there was any difference in pco, pcos, and pcod. My doctor > always refered to my condition as PCOD, but I have had doctors use it > interchangably with PCOS… I have ovaries that appear polycystic (from lap > and ultrasound) I have at least a dozen cysts. My ovaries are 3-4+ > centimeters in diameter and have a waxy pearl-like coating. My hormones > match the profile (I can’t recall it exactly). My DHEA level is very > elevated (like 3x normal). I am insulin-resisitant, obese, and have > hirsutism. I have been led to believe that these are all symptoms of > polycystic ovarian disease and does not include the other effects like the > migraines and such that I suffer from. > There is also another name for this condition, when it was first discovered, > it was called Stein-Leventhal syndrome after the docters who found it when > studying ovarian wedge resection techniques. > I had one of those two during my second lap.. it was really funny, the > doctor called it "ovarian wedge resection by wiffle-ball technique" > seriously.. I guess this is what you guys have referred to as ovarian > drilling. > Always, > Lyssa > smdesi…@townsqr.com
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Excerpts from netnews.alt.support.pco: 10-Dec-100 Re: prevalence of pco by S. Fict…@softhome.net > I didn’t know there was any difference in pco, pcos, and pcod.
pco means polycystic ovaries which can be a sign of PCOS (polycystic ovarian syndrome) which i think is synonomous with PCOD (polycystic ovarian disease). you can have PCO without having PCO… i guess… since i love anologies… in a fashion similar to you can have a cough without having tuberculosis??? PCO is only one symptom of PCOS (or PCOD, pick your acronym… PCOS is used more often, i think)… other symptoms are the acne, hairiness, irregular periods, annovulation, hormone abnormalities, lipid abnormalities, and amazing ability to pack on weight which we all know and love so well. you can have some, all, or most of the symptoms… – jodi <*>=<*>=<*>=<*>=<*>=<*>=<*>=<*>=<*>=<*>=<*>=<*>=<*>=<*>=<*>=<*>=<*> "We don’t even know where home is; for us there is literally no direction home. There is an immense nostalgia and longing for home, for being at home, but our reality is an acute, radical homelessness." – Robert Bellah <*>=<*>=<*>=<*>=<*>=<*>=<*>=<*>=<*>=<*>=<*>=<*>=<*>=<*>=<*>=<*>=<*>
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oopsie… i meant on that one line to say you can have PCO without having PCOS… not you can have PCO without having PCO. 
– jodi, who should proofread before hitting send <*>=<*>=<*>=<*>=<*>=<*>=<*>=<*>=<*>=<*>=<*>=<*>=<*>=<*>=<*>=<*>=<*> "We don’t even know where home is; for us there is literally no direction home. There is an immense nostalgia and longing for home, for being at home, but our reality is an acute, radical homelessness." – Robert Bellah <*>=<*>=<*>=<*>=<*>=<*>=<*>=<*>=<*>=<*>=<*>=<*>=<*>=<*>=<*>=<*>=<*>
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The terms Stein-Leventhal, PCO, PCOS and PCOD are typically used interchangeably, in the worlds of reproductive endocrinology and gynecology. If one says "PCO", chances are they’re referring to the syndrome. Some use the term "PAO", polycystic-appearing ovaries, to differentiate between the syndrome and the symptom. -Kay (who very much dislikes the term "cyster" …PCOS is an *endocrine* disorder; the term "cyster" is misleading and does not help educate the general public, IMO. Not everyone with PCOS has PAO, and vice versa).
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I’ve been lurking for quite some time but haven’t posted much because I’m not very good at this support-group thing–just feel likeI don’t have much to say, I guess. But I keep failing miserably at changing my way of eating and thinking about eating, so I’m committing myself to reading AND posting instead of just reading. I’ve got about 30 pounds to lose. I’ve got PCOS (polycystic ovarian syndrome), and low-carb is my preferred treatment plan. I’ve also got hypothyroidism and a family history of diabetes. I’ve been on and off Atkins for more than a year, and I have experienced the increased energy and better mood and outlook that it brings. So as you can see, I have a lot of reasons to eat low-carb, and I can’t understand why I keep falling off the wagon. My DH is even on Atkins (has lost just over 20 pounds and loves it), so I don’t have the excuse of being alone on the diet. I haven’t weighed in weeks and am not sure whether I’m going to go with inches or pounds, but I’ll put numbers in my sig soon. I’m counting on ya’ll and hoping to be of some help, too. msfab
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Welcome ms !!!! Glad you decided to de-lurk and chime in. I’m sure you know from reading that there are a lot of us here with PCOS or Syndrome X or whatever ails us. Great that your hubby is doing LC too. That probably makes grocery shopping easier !! Looking forward to your posts and progress !! ConnieMS 244/197/150
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’ve been lurking for quite some time but haven’t posted much because I’m not very good at this support-group thing–just feel likeI don’t have much to say, I guess. But I keep failing miserably at changing my way of eating and thinking about eating, so I’m committing myself to reading AND posting instead of just reading. I’ve got about 30 pounds to lose. I’ve got PCOS (polycystic ovarian syndrome), and low-carb is my preferred treatment plan. I’ve also got hypothyroidism and a family history of diabetes. I’ve been on and off Atkins for more than a year, and I have experienced the increased energy and better mood and outlook that it brings. So as you can see, I have a lot of reasons to eat low-carb, and I can’t understand why I keep falling off the wagon. My DH is even on Atkins (has lost just over 20 pounds and loves it), so I don’t have the excuse of being alone on the diet. I haven’t weighed in weeks and am not sure whether I’m going to go with inches or pounds, but I’ll put numbers in my sig soon. I’m counting on ya’ll and hoping to be of some help, too. msfab
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I second that…. Lisa
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I can’t understand why I keep falling off the wagon. could be because of the way our body processes the carbs — we are easily addicted to them. Consider them to be a food that makes you will — an allergen (if only in excess) It should be easier to stay on the diet with that sort of attitude — Dragon Mom
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Thanks for the welcome. I’m two meals into it (breakfast was a bust) and feeling good. I forgot to mention that I’ve been trying for months to knock back a bad case of candida overgrowth–another reason to stick to low-carb but perhaps also why I’m finding it so hard. Switched to a more agressive anti-fungal regimen yesterday and am hoping that helps. msfab
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Thanks for the welcome. I’m two meals into it (breakfast was a bust) and feeling good. I forgot to mention that I’ve been trying for months to knock back a bad case of candida overgrowth–another reason to stick to low-carb but perhaps also why I’m finding it so hard. Switched to a more agressive anti-fungal regimen yesterday and am hoping that helps. msfab
yeast die off will make you feel real yucky, BUT GOOD NEWS the LC diet will reduce the likelihood of a reoccurrence — Dragon Mom (I do not miss the yeast infections on my skin at all (especially in the scalp)
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yeast die off will make you feel real yucky,
Hi Dragon Mom. I’m confused about die-off. I’ve been trying for months to get rid of the yeast–a month of weekly Diflucan, a month of nystatin, horrible skin irrritations reoccuring each time I stopped the meds. My doctor just gave me a two week scrip for daily diflucan to be followed by 6 months of nystatin. I could tell immediately that the diflucan was working, but then my arms, which had totally cleared up from rashes, broke out in itchy rash again on the 2nd day of diflucan. Could this be die-off? Will it go away? Also, do you have any experience with grapefruit seed extract or garlic supplements as antifungals? Thanks. msfab
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Yowee! Thrush is HORRIBLE! I keep some of that Canisten cream in stock and use it as soon as the first signs appear. Prevents it taking hold. But once you’ve really go it, AGONY. Don’t feel that we only want to hear from the Successful. Many of us have been in the same boat as you. Some of us still are. Those first 2 weeks after a carb slip-up are always very difficult and many of us follow one slip with another. You may find that you have to really stick with low-carb for a few weeks now before you get any more weight loss benefits. If you do slip up again, see what you can learn from the experience. What caused you to slip? Did you have enough food in the house. Did it happen under certain circumstances (if I hadn’t eaten that it would have been wasted) (I was cooking at the time)? Do certain foods cause the slips? Or does one slip lead to another as carbs can cause 3 days of cravings before they leave the system. Is there a monthly pattern? If you can’t face keeping a weight chart then keep a record of these things, including mood swings, energy levels, health issues. The cards are stacked against you for fast weight loss as I’m sure you know, so you will have to start out by thinking of low-carb as a way of eating for life rather than a temporary diet. Once you have taken that step then you will be set up for success. — Ev 20/06/2000 168/154/147 If you want a carb counter and a progress chart and have Excel95 or + I have them free at my web site at http://www.znet.freeserve.co.uk/
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Thanks for the welcome. I’m two meals into it (breakfast was a bust) and feeling good. I forgot to mention that I’ve been trying for months to knock back a bad case of candida overgrowth–another reason to stick to low-carb but perhaps also why I’m finding it so hard. Switched to a more agressive anti-fungal regimen yesterday and am hoping that helps. msfab
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Sure sounds like die off to me! The long regimens of those heavy meds may be as much to blame as your diet though… your body may have become dependent on them to control the growth of those yeasty beasties. There is a good yeast fighting info web site floating around (may be listed in the FAQ) but I’ve misplaced the link. I don’t remember anything about garlic or grapefruit seed extract, but I remember that oil of oregano is recommended as an effective addition to the yeast fighting diet. I had the greatest success killing of my yeast problem (with me since childhood I’d guess – every kind of skin fungus you can think of at some point – athletes foot, ringworm, etc.), yeastly digestive problems, but no major vaginal yeast problems (thank goodness) using a kit called Vital Cleanse I got though wholefoods.com and the usual recommended dietary changes. I cut out the dairy, vinegars, etc. for the 2 weeks and of course was sugar and yeast free. The kit had a fiber/herb powder and 2 tinctures and was easy to use and very effective. When the regimen was over I made sure to get my yogurt in every day for a while so the acidopholus could help restore the right kinds of flora to my digestive tract and I’ve had no break outs or other yeast problems since then (going on a year!). I’m confused about die-off. I’ve been trying for months to get rid of the yeast–a month of weekly Diflucan, a month of nystatin, horrible skin irrritations reoccuring each time I stopped the meds. My doctor just gave me a two week scrip for daily diflucan to be followed by 6 months of nystatin. I could tell immediately that the diflucan was working, but then my arms, which had totally cleared up from rashes, broke out in itchy rash again on the 2nd day of diflucan. Could this be die-off? Will it go away? Also, do you have any experience with grapefruit seed extract or garlic supplements as antifungals? Thanks. msfab
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using a kit called Vital Cleanse
Thanks for the tip. I think I’ve seen it on the shelf. msfab
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The cards are stacked against you for fast weight loss as I’m sure you know, so you will have to start out by thinking of low-carb as a way of eating for life rather than a temporary diet. Once you have taken that step then you will be set up for success
Thanks, Ev. I’m trying to make this my new outlook. Before the hypothyroidism kicked in, I had actually lost close to 10 pounds on Atkins. Now I’m almost 10 pounds above my original starting weight, and it’s clear that I’m just not going to lose as easily as I did before. The alternatives to this WOE are not acceptable, though, so I’ll just keep trying to internalize it. msfab
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Good luck with it… and don’t forget the yogurt (or acidopholus capsules if you hate yogurt) afterwards… your body needs the good stuff in order to fend off the bad stuff! using a kit called Vital Cleanse Thanks for the tip. I think I’ve seen it on the shelf. msfab
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Well.. good luck with the WOL… I know you can do it. You don’t have as much to lose as I do, it is a slow journey. I have PCOs too. Getting my thyroid tested this month. I, too, read more then I post. There are so many other people here that have so much information, I often don’t feel like posting when I can’t make a new contribution. Hang in there. My PCOs is much better with low carbing. Everything is better with LC…. I feel better, I am regular (periods), my face is clearing up a little bit and my levels are great. I notice that when I do cheat, I physically feel worse then when I don’t. The sugar isn’t worth the havoc it causes on your body. — Adela 330/215/??? (5′9") www.angelfire.com/tx2/joygyrl/lowcarb.html
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’ve been lurking for quite some time but haven’t posted much because I’m not very good at this support-group thing–just feel likeI don’t have much to say, I guess. But I keep failing miserably at changing my way of eating and thinking about eating, so I’m committing myself to reading AND posting instead of just reading. I’ve got about 30 pounds to lose. I’ve got PCOS (polycystic ovarian syndrome), and low-carb is my preferred treatment plan. I’ve also got hypothyroidism and a family history of diabetes. I’ve been on and off Atkins for more than a year, and I have experienced the increased energy and better mood and outlook that it brings. So as you can see, I have a lot of reasons to eat low-carb, and I can’t understand why I keep falling off the wagon. My DH is even on Atkins (has lost just over 20 pounds and loves it), so I don’t have the excuse of being alone on the diet. I haven’t weighed in weeks and am not sure whether I’m going to go with inches or pounds, but I’ll put numbers in my sig soon. I’m counting on ya’ll and hoping to be of some help, too. msfab
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The sugar isn’t worth the havoc it causes on your body.
Thanks for the reminder and the vote of confidence, Adela. Congratulations of your weight loss! That’s amazing. msfab
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Can anyone tell me , or tell me where I can find out what exactly metformin is made of? Was it made with artifical chemicals, was it scraped off the bottom of a whale, is it made of something? Thanks Mariah
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Mariah wrote: > Can anyone tell me , or tell me where I can find out what exactly metformin > is made of? Was it made with artifical chemicals, > was it scraped off the bottom of a whale, is it made of something? > Thanks > Mariah
Look in the Physician’s Desk Reference (PDR), this will tell you everything you ever wanted to know and more about Metformin. But you will have to look it up under Glucophage. The PDR can be found at any library or bookstore. Take Care and Fertile Thoughts, Paula Drum
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::thom…@bellsouth.net WROTE:: <<Can anyone tell me , or tell me where I can find out what exactly metformin is made of? Was it made with artifical chemicals, was it scraped off the bottom of a whale, is it made of something? Thanks Mariah>> **http://www.rxlist.com/** put Metformin in the search box ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ Just Me, Lisa. Leg…@aol.com "I’m not fat..I’m big boned!" -Eric Cartman- *SouthPark* PCOS the silent Disease << http://www.pcosupport.org >> ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~
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anyone on metformin? I took one pill and had the diahrea so bad I may not take another.
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I just started metformin on Thurs, and so far have not even been able to take the full dosage. Thurs I was so nauseous all day I could hardly eat at all, and yesterday I had horrendous diarrhea & vomiting. I’m going to try to take just one pill today & tomorrow, then check with my dr on Monday to see what he suggests. Kimberly
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I have no problems if I take it with a full meal. If I don’t take it with enough food in my stomach I get sick. Barbara – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Erik Nesteruk wrote in message <34dc86a…@camcomp2.camcomp.com>… >I just started metformin on Thurs, and so far have not even been able to >take the full dosage. Thurs I was so nauseous all day I could hardly eat at >all, and yesterday I had horrendous diarrhea & vomiting. I’m going to try >to take just one pill today & tomorrow, then check with my dr on Monday to >see what he suggests. >Kimberly
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In article <19980207152701.KAA08…@ladder02.news.aol.com>, eve…@aol.com (EveTil) writes: >anyone on metformin? I took one pill and had the diahrea so bad I may not >take
another. I have IBS so when I took the pills I expected the diahrea, but after about 3 days I was in so much pain that I stopped taking them, that was in November, I haven’t had the guts to even try taking them again. One day laying in the hall writhing in pain and uncontrollably crying made me think that maybe being fat and hairy ain’t so bad. Becky
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EveTil wrote in message <19980207152701.KAA08…@ladder02.news.aol.com>… >anyone on metformin? I took one pill and had the diahrea so bad I may not take >another.
I’am currently taken rezulin and it is a better drug for Insulin Resistance than metformin….I have had no side effects except loss of appetite…..I’am currently seeing a Re and trying to get pregnant and Rezulin suspose to help PCO….
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I don’t mind so much being fat (I’m used to that by now) & I’m not really THAT hairy, but I was hoping to avoid taking Clomid by taking Metformin. My dr thought if I could take Metformin it would correct my hormonal imbalance enough to finally get me to ovulate on my own– so I could FINALLY get pregnant– but I don’t know if I’m going to try taking the Metformin again or not…. Kimberly neste…@camcomp.com
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I did take the next pill last night and did not have the diarrhea. My stomach growled a little but that was it. I want to take metformin to feel better. Not to get pregnant. I took Clomid to concieve both of my children. I took one pill the first month and did not ovulate. Dr. started me on two pills a day and that month I got pregnant. With the second child it took a couple months longer and 3 pills a day. Both of my kids are boys.Seems like everyone I know who took Clomid had boys.
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Just a word of encouragement, I am on metformin now for over a year…It took several weeks for the side affects to finally disapear, but I am now menstrating and ovulating regularly. I have a few other problems so no pregnancy yet, but the metformin is working> Angela treet…@aol.com
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I am going to start looking for a doctor who knows about metformin. I’m scared about taking medicine but I want to feel better and get pregnant. Thanks for the support. I’m also going to start walking everyday. – amanda
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Hi all, I’m going to the doctor again on Aug. 28. I want to talk to him about the possiblity of trying Metformin. I know this has been talked about a lot on this newsgroup, but as my server only picks up a random number of newsgroup messages, I think I miss a lot of the good information. I have traced down the New England Journal of Medicine’s Aug. 29, 1996 article, but haven’t found much more helpful info on the net. If you would please email me ANYTHING and EVERYTHING you may know about this drug – good or bad, personal experiences, information and sites where I could print out supporting information to take the the doctor, effects of this drug with PCO, with infertility/irregular cycles, with facial hair, acne, weight gain, etc, effects on pregnancy – I would be greatful!!! I want to go in loaded with printed data, so if my doctor hasn’t heard of this or is leary, I can give him lots to read. Please mail to hann…@quiknet.com Thank you all so much!!! Jenni
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Dito! Please e-mail me with sucess stories or just stories nad any info, I am on metformin, 2500 mg a day my cycles are trying to regulate and I am experiencing ovulation type pain and temp rises but no pregnancy after 4 months. I am also diabetic.
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Information about metformin will be in a future issue of the PCOSupport Newsletter. There will also soon be a reference guide of studies on our website. michaela ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Director of Public Relations Polycystic Ovarian Syndrome Association http://www.pcosupport.org ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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PCO Support newsletter?!?!?! How do I get on this list? I would be interested on more information. I did not realize there was a newsletter… new to all this online stuff Thanks Tina – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Information about metformin will be in a future issue of the PCOSupport >Newsletter.
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Tina– You can only get the newsletter if you join PCOSupport, the official Polycystic Ovarian Syndrome Association. You’re welcome to join! We’re in the midst of deciding where the next annual conference will be…be sure to get your vote in when they send the next mailing out to members! michaela ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Director of Public Relations Polycystic Ovarian Syndrome Association http://www.pcosupport.org ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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>You can only get the newsletter if you join PCOSupport, the official >Polycystic Ovarian Syndrome Association. You’re welcome to join!
I checked out the PCOSupport web page. I’d still like to know how to join. Tammy TammyF7…@aol.com
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Tammy, did you fill out the membership form? It should give some instructions on it. I’ll also forward your email to the right person. m ——————————————————- In the beginning there was the Word. And the Word was Chocolate. And it was good… Confections, 1.5 ounces, 240 calories.
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In article <QtqbkSu00Uw85ie…@andrew.cmu.edu>, Jodi Lynn Poniewaz <poniew…@andrew.cmu.edu> wrote: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> i hope i spelled that right… > can anyone tell me if this is just something they will put you on if you > are actively trying to get preg, or if they will give it to you if > you’re not as well?? it seems like medical thinking would be like, > there’s no need to ovulate if you’re not trying to get preg… but MY > thinking is i would like to get as normal as possible NOW and not start > trying to do so in a few years when i am out of college and married and > really want to… > i hope this isn’t a dumb question. :/ > also, can you go to an RE if you’re not trying to get preg?? i have a > gyne appt. in nov, my GP said she’ll have to refer me to an endo… > having had past bad experiences with one, i am afriad this will be > another case of the same, and no one will take this seriously since > right now i am an unmarried college student with no immediate > need/desire to conceive… no one seems to care about the fact that > it’s really miserable to be an unmarried female college student with a > beard… grrr.
I’m not trying to get pregnant (god forbid! – my kids are 16 and 18) and I’m on Met, mostly to help with insulin resistance. An RE is just an endo that focusses on the reproductive system. A regular endo is more widely focussed and will deal with things other than trying to get pregnant (at least in theory). My endo’s never even brought up reproduction after our first interview and I’ve been seeing her for 4-5 years now. She treats me for the symptoms I have. Shar Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.
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i hope i spelled that right… can anyone tell me if this is just something they will put you on if you are actively trying to get preg, or if they will give it to you if you’re not as well?? it seems like medical thinking would be like, there’s no need to ovulate if you’re not trying to get preg… but MY thinking is i would like to get as normal as possible NOW and not start trying to do so in a few years when i am out of college and married and really want to… i hope this isn’t a dumb question. :/ also, can you go to an RE if you’re not trying to get preg?? i have a gyne appt. in nov, my GP said she’ll have to refer me to an endo… having had past bad experiences with one, i am afriad this will be another case of the same, and no one will take this seriously since right now i am an unmarried college student with no immediate need/desire to conceive… no one seems to care about the fact that it’s really miserable to be an unmarried female college student with a beard… grrr.
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I just came from my dermatologist where I initially went to get a consult on laser hair removal. The dermatologist didn’t really try to talk me into laser hair removal but was more than willing to give me the prescription for Vaniqa. He said that sometimes laser doesn’t always work, can require a lot of visits, and can be expensive. He also talked to me about other hair removal treatments as well. So we thought we would try Vaniqa first and than go from there. Seems the cheapest way but I understand it can take up to 8 weeks before you notice results. Has anyone started on it or has anyone heard how it is turning out for others with unwanted facial hair? Also can you use it anywhere?? Such as on your back or arms?? I forgot to ask and was just wondering. Any answers would greatly be appreciated. Lisa
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"What is vaniqa?
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VANIQAT CREAM Geoffrey Redmond, M.D. VANIQA (Eflornithine HCl Cream, 13.9%) is an entirely new approach to helping women with increased facial hair because it does not work through hormonal pathways. The manufacturers were somewhat brave to invest in developing Vaniqa, considering that for years most of the medical profession refused to acknowledge that increased hair growth in women was a problem at all. As a result, women embarrassed by visible facial hair have felt quite isolated. In my own practice I usually see five or ten new patients a week for help with excess hair growth and many still ask on their first visit, "Doctor, have you ever seen anyone else like me?" Yet in America there are ten million adult women who remove facial hair at least twice a week and more than twice as many who remove weekly. Several medical treatments such as spironolactone (Aldactone
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Hi Lara, Congrats on the gym. What is wrong with you knee? DH has ACL and PCL damage and wears a DonJoy knee brace… a la robocop… Good luck on ze arms… I hear they can be the toughest to shape up.
When I gained a bunch of weight because of the PolyCystic Ovarian Syndrome (PCOS), I strained my knee. My quads are not strong enough to keep my kneecaps in proper alignment, and as a result I have a small spur on the right kneecap. It’s not big enough to worry about, so the doctor is just encouraging me to exercise, do some rehab moves, and avoid putting too much pressure on it (avoid stairs, no jumping around, stuff like that). — Lara, Hightstown, NJ, USA "The world is wide, and I will not waste my life in friction when it could be turned into momentum." — Frances Willard 234
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I am new here and I was diagnosed with PCOS after I told my doctor that I was sure that PCOS the reason for the "beard" that I have to shave daily )-: I just wanted to ask a few questions about this post. Is Vaniqa available in the US now? Are there any known side effects? Where can I find more information? Thanks in advance for the help. Lynn Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.
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Would this work on other parts of the body also? Theresa Howard <tjhow…@tir.com> wrote in message
news:jBPh5.8937$a61.657525@news-east.usenetserver.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> FDA Approves VaniqaT As Treatment For Women With Unwanted Facial Hair > Approval of First Prescription Product of Its Kind Is Important News for the > More than 41 Million Women with This Condition > PRINCETON, NJ (July 31, 2000) — Bristol-Myers Squibb Company (NYSE:BMY) and > The Gillette Company (NYSE:G) announced today that the U.S. Food and Drug > Administration (FDA) has approved VaniqaT (eflornithine hydrochloride) > Cream, 13.9% as the first topical prescription treatment for women with > unwanted facial hair. Vaniqa works by inhibiting the growth of facial hair, > and was shown in controlled clinical trials to provide clinically meaningful > and statistically significant improvement in the reduction of facial hair > growth in women. > The FDA approval of Vaniqa may provide an important new option for the more > than 41 million women in the United States with unwanted facial hair. > Unwanted facial hair can affect women of all ages, races and ethnic > backgrounds. The impact of this surprisingly common problem extends beyond > the need for regular tweezing, waxing or depilatory application. Many women > who have unwanted facial hair often report that the condition negatively > impacts their lifestyle and makes them feel unfeminine and less confident. > "As a physician, I am excited about the potential for this new prescription > cream to help women manage unwanted facial hair," said Marty E. Sawaya, > M.D., PhD, adjunct professor, Department of Biochemistry and Molecular > Biology, University of Miami, and a dermatologist and clinical research > investigator at ARATEC Clinics in Ocala, Florida. "Importantly, Vaniqa will > potentially help millions of women with this condition to feel less bothered > by their facial hair and the amount of time they spend removing, treating or > concealing it." > Vaniqa (eflornithine hydrochloride) Cream, 13.9% was developed through a > unique partnership between The Gillette Company and Bristol-Myers Squibb. > The companies formed the partnership in 1996 in order to complete > development of the product. Bristol-Myers Squibb is responsible for > worldwide clinical development, regulatory submissions and, together with > Gillette, is responsible for marketing this prescription product. > "Bristol-Myers Squibb is pleased that the FDA has approved Vaniqa as the > first lifestyle prescription drug available to treat unwanted facial hair," > said Richard J. Lane, president, Worldwide Medicines Group, Bristol-Myers > Squibb. "As a result of our partnership with The Gillette Company, we can > now provide physicians with an effective way to help their patients who are > affected by this problem." > In most cases, unwanted facial hair is caused by hereditary factors. A small > number of cases are caused by medical conditions such as androgen excess > disorder or polycystic ovarian syndrome. Regardless of the cause, Vaniqa > (eflornithine hydrochloride) Cream, 13.9% demonstrated in clinical trials > that it is effective in slowing the growth of unwanted facial hair in up to > 60 percent of women. Vaniqa takes up to 2 months to work, and along with > Vaniqa, women should continue to use their current method of hair removal. > Vaniqa has a unique mechanism of action and is believed to work by blocking > an enzyme that is necessary for hair growth. In Phase III clinical trials, > the primary study measure was a physician’s global assessment of their > patients’ improvement at the end of 24 weeks. Results demonstrated > clinically and statistically significant improvement in the reduction of > facial hair growth in women treated with Vaniqa as compared to the group > that was treated with vehicle (a placebo cream). Significant differences > between Vaniqa and vehicle were seen as soon as eight weeks into treatment. > The data from the Phase III clinical studies show that among those who > completed 24 weeks of treatment, nearly 60 percent of patients on Vaniqa > improved. > In clinical trials, when side effects occurred they were mild and generally > resolved without treatment. The most common side effects associated with > Vaniqa were minor skin irritations such as temporary redness, hair bumps, > stinging, burning, tingling, acne, or rash. > "Until now, no prescription creams have been available that help slow the > rate of unwanted hair growth," said Mary Ann Pesce, vice president, New > Products, The Gillette Company. "This unique partnership with Bristol-Myers > Squibb reflects the ongoing commitment of The Gillette Company to develop > products specifically designed to meet the grooming and beauty needs of > women." > Women who are interested can learn more about Vaniqa by consulting with > their physician or by calling 1-877-829-9715. Vaniqa will be available in > pharmacies as early as September. > Headquartered in Boston, The Gillette Company is the world leader in male > grooming, a category that includes blades, razors and shaving preparations. > Gillette also holds the number one position worldwide in selected female > grooming products, such as wet shaving products and hair epilation devices. > In addition, the company is the world leader in alkaline batteries, > toothbrushes and oral-care appliances. > Bristol-Myers Squibb Company is a $20 billion diversified, global health and > personal care company whose mission is to extend and enhance human life. > Full Vaniqa Prescribing Information > For more information, contact: Bonnie Jacobs, Bristol-Myers Squibb Company, > 609-897-4868 or bonnie.jac…@bms.com, or Michele M. Szynal, The Gillette > Company, 617-421-7086 or michelle szy…@gillette.com > Article Date: 07/31/2000 > ————————————————————————– — > —-
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Yahoo!!! Yippeeeee! WOW! Finally!
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YES!!! — Lindsey C. RawkS…@hotmail.com My Art: http://elfwood.lysator.liu.se/lothlorien/artists/lindsey/lindsey.html My Homepage: http://lindsey.20m.com
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Does anybody know if it will ever be available in the UK?? Clare "Theresa Howard" <tjhow…@tir.com> wrote in message
news:jBPh5.8937$a61.657525@news-east.usenetserver.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> FDA Approves Vaniqa
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My partner was diagnosed with Hashimoto’s Syndrome, an autoimmune low-thyroid disease in which the body attacks the thyroid it produces. She was put on Synthroid and the first two days she knitted half an afghan! She never slept! Then she went back to the doctor who lowered the dose and added Xanax, a mild tranquilizer, and she never finished the afghan, drat. So keep at it until you find the perfect dosage if you have any problems. It might even help your dieting, raising your metabolism a bit. I had the opposite experience: doctors always put me on thyroid automatically when they saw I was fat without even doing a test to see if I really had a thyroid problem. I don’t. — Carol Schmidt 366 on April 18, 2000 343.6 now 339 minigoal 330 10% 326 goal for Dec. 24 weigh-in 166 goal for the year 2007
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| Hi, | | Im new around here, my name is Cindy. When I felt my best and looked my best | I was 120 lbs. With a 5ft 3 inch hight and a medium frame that was just | about perfect. But the years have rolled by and the pounds have accumulated. | At 180 I found out my thyroid was not working right and the doctor has just | started my medication, oh about a month ago. At the same time I started | weight watchers. In one month I have lost about 6 lbs, going backwards once | with a .8 gain. | | Has anyone else had the same experience, I mean trying to loose weight and | battle a thyroid problem at the same time. I didnt’ know if my loss was | average, or low. If my medication is steped up if I can expect more of a | loss. I am following the plan, mostly getting all the water needed ect…. Hi Cindy, I don’t have a problem with my thyroid, but I have polycystic ovarian syndrome (PCOS). My body made too much testosterone, which caused acne, irregular/no menstrual cycles (sorry, boys), and WEIGHT GAIN! I topped out at 265. I joined a gym and worked out 4-5x a week, and I only lost 3 pounds in 6 months! (Duuuuhhhh, should have picked up that something was wrong!) Now I’m on Glucophage, and the acne’s going away, my cycles are regulated, and the weight is starting to budge! I’ve lost almost 28 pounds in the last almost-3 months. Luckily I had good eating habits — skim milk over regular, beans and lentils, whole-grain foods — before Weight Watchers, so this hasn’t been such a struggle. I do still however have to watch my portions. That’s one thing that WW has been great for. Sure, it’s common sense, but if it was so easy, no one would be on WW! Good luck, Cindy! — Lara W. "The world is wide, and I will not waste my life in friction when it could be turned into momentum." — Frances Willard 234
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