Polycystic Ovary Syndrome (PCOS)

Glucose Intolerant

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Now there are two words the average beer drinker hates to hear, but alas my girlfriend is glucose intolerant. I’m wondering if someone might have a beer recipe that would be glucose free? Maybe something made from rice? Seems barley, wheat, etc are full of it and are strict no-no’s.

From your last two sentences, I infer you really meant to say she’s **gluten** intolerant (which is found in barley, wheat, rye, and oats).   Here’s a website that discusses gluten-free beer: <http://www.scrafford.com/beer/gfb.html (All I can say is thank god I can drink the real thing!) — HTH, Seth Goodman

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From your last two sentences, I infer you really meant to say she’s **gluten** intolerant (which is found in barley, wheat, rye, and oats).

Yeah, sorry, I let my brain out run my fingers. Here’s a website that discusses gluten-free beer: <http://www.scrafford.com/beer/gfb.html (All I can say is thank god I can drink the real thing!)

Thanks. — Jim

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oops, my bad, I meant GLUTEN… For goodness sake…

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Now there are two words the average beer drinker hates to hear, but alas my girlfriend is glucose intolerant. I’m wondering if someone might have a beer recipe that would be glucose free? Maybe something made from rice? Seems barley, wheat, etc are full of it and are strict no-no’s. I’m not doubting your word, but I would like to hear more about this. Glucose is blood sugar, and I’m wondering how someone could be glucose intolerant.  How does she get energy to her cells? I’ve heard of lactose intolerance… JeffMo

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This sounds more like it.  Any sort of "gluten intolerance" can range from an actual allergy to gluten to missing some enzymes for digesting it, all of which can limit which relatives of wheat are/are not acceptable. Again, get a list from the doctor and all of the specifics. [My wife has a severe allergy to apples and you *don't* want to run a risk of triggering any allergic attack, even if you do have the requisite hypo full of adrenaline in the fridge.] The main offenders for gluten are wheat and rye–these are the only grain sources with enough gluten to permit the bread to retain gas from the yeast and therefore rise. Barley is essentially gluten free as are corn and buckwheat–the latter is a relative of rhubarb and can safely be eaten by people who are allergic to wheat in many cases. Corn contains something called "corn gluten" which is quite different from that found in wheat and should pose no threat. Barley should be fine and is preferred for malting. If you are going to use rice, remember to cook it first or it will sit like a brick while you are mashing. Corn has been used for years as an adjunct to American beers. Again, be sure what the medical condition is first and ask her doctor for a specific list of acceptable grains. Once you have that, I’m sure there are people on this list than can help you make a killer brew. Cheers & Good Luck! — J – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Now there are two words the average beer drinker hates to hear, but alas my girlfriend is glucose intolerant. I’m wondering if someone might have a beer recipe that would be glucose free? Maybe something made from rice? Seems barley, wheat, etc are full of it and are strict no-no’s. From your last two sentences, I infer you really meant to say she’s **gluten** intolerant (which is found in barley, wheat, rye, and oats). Here’s a website that discusses gluten-free beer: <http://www.scrafford.com/beer/gfb.html (All I can say is thank god I can drink the real thing!)

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Well, the allergy is to Gluten, and it causes siezures, blackouts, etc, etc. So in any form is taboo. The main offenders for gluten are wheat and rye–these are the only grain sources with enough gluten to permit the bread to retain gas from the yeast and therefore rise. Barley is essentially gluten free

I wouldn’t spread that around on GF message boards, cause it really isn’t. I do agree with your Buckwheat and Corn comments however. Buckwheat pancakes are the choice for breakfast, however even at that you have to be careful when purchasing "off the shelf" at your local market, buckwheat pancake mix has the nasty habit of being mixed with other types of "wheat" products for filler. Again, be sure what the medical condition is first and ask her doctor for a specific list of acceptable grains. Once you have that, I’m sure there are people on this list than can help you make a killer brew.

Yeah, we’re pretty much confined to buckwheat and rice. In her case even the corn gluten is bad karma. Cheers & Good Luck!

Thanks.

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Kamatu, Try this link for someone working on a gluten free beer. http://www.fortunecity.com/boozers/brewerytap/555/gfbeer/gfbeer.htm Cheers, George Lawson – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – oops, my bad, I meant GLUTEN… For goodness sake… Now there are two words the average beer drinker hates to hear, but alas my girlfriend is glucose intolerant. I’m wondering if someone might have a beer recipe that would be glucose free? Maybe something made from rice? Seems barley, wheat, etc are full of it and are strict no-no’s. I’m not doubting your word, but I would like to hear more about this. Glucose is blood sugar, and I’m wondering how someone could be glucose intolerant.  How does she get energy to her cells? I’ve heard of lactose intolerance… JeffMo

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Somewhere in this thread things got corrected. I think I have a cousin who is water intolerant however.

I think I have a few acquaintances like this… As far as the original question, I apologise.  I should have read more of the followups before adding my bit of noise.  The answers seem good. –arne DISCLAIMER:  These opinions and statements are those of the author and do not represent any views or positions of the Hewlett-Packard Co.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Somewhere in this thread things got corrected. I think I have a cousin who is water intolerant however. Now there are two words the average beer drinker hates to hear, but alas my girlfriend is glucose intolerant. I’m wondering if someone might have a beer recipe that would be glucose free? Maybe something made from rice? Seems barley, wheat, etc are full of it and are strict no-no’s. There is no such thing as glucose intolerance.  What is the real problem here?  Diabetes?  Hypoglycemia?  Lactose intolerance?  I think you’ve got it garbled or incomplete. Glucose is absolutely essential to life, saying that someone is "glucose intolerant" is like saying they are "water intolerant" or "oxygen intolerant".  It can’t happen. –arne DISCLAIMER:  These opinions and statements are those of the author and do not represent any views or positions of the Hewlett-Packard Co. — Jim

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Now there are two words the average beer drinker hates to hear, but alas my girlfriend is glucose intolerant. I’m wondering if someone might have a beer recipe that would be glucose free? Maybe something made from rice? Seems barley, wheat, etc are full of it and are strict no-no’s.

There is no such thing as glucose intolerance.  What is the real problem here?  Diabetes?  Hypoglycemia?  Lactose intolerance?  I think you’ve got it garbled or incomplete. Glucose is absolutely essential to life, saying that someone is "glucose intolerant" is like saying they are "water intolerant" or "oxygen intolerant".  It can’t happen. –arne DISCLAIMER:  These opinions and statements are those of the author and do not represent any views or positions of the Hewlett-Packard Co.

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Somewhere in this thread things got corrected. I think I have a cousin who is water intolerant however.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Now there are two words the average beer drinker hates to hear, but alas my girlfriend is glucose intolerant. I’m wondering if someone might have a beer recipe that would be glucose free? Maybe something made from rice? Seems barley, wheat, etc are full of it and are strict no-no’s. There is no such thing as glucose intolerance.  What is the real problem here?  Diabetes?  Hypoglycemia?  Lactose intolerance?  I think you’ve got it garbled or incomplete. Glucose is absolutely essential to life, saying that someone is "glucose intolerant" is like saying they are "water intolerant" or "oxygen intolerant".  It can’t happen. –arne DISCLAIMER:  These opinions and statements are those of the author and do not represent any views or positions of the Hewlett-Packard Co.

– Jim

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Hmmm… This is a rather odd claim.  Glucose intolerance is a measure of how quickly or not blood sugar (which is glucose) falls under a certain amount after resp. 30, 60 then 90 minutes. If the amount of glucose in the blood remains high, you have glucose intolerance, since your body is (probably) not producing insulin in sufficient quantities to deal with the glucose.  Diabetes is the most common disease that causes this, but there are several others (problems with metabolizing chromium, reactions to diuretics, polycystic ovaries…) Please get the facts from her doctor before you try to brew up something special. It’s a really sweet thing to do for her, but it is also likely she will be discouraged from having alcohol. In any case, the grains all contain virtually no sugar, but chiefly starches, The trick with the whole beer making process is to trigger enzymes that break the starches up into sugars (glucose and  maltose are the major ones) and then let your yeast devour that, returning just alcohol. The glucose content of beer should be fairly minimal under most circumstances. Managing the glucose content of the beer is moot. Glucose intolerance is measured as part of an overall evaluation of insulin sensitivity, so avoiding glucose is not necessary. Finding out what is causing her condition is what’s important here.

Thanks for all the information! JeffMo

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Now there are two words the average beer drinker hates to hear, but alas my girlfriend is glucose intolerant. I’m wondering if someone might have a beer recipe that would be glucose free? Maybe something made from rice? Seems barley, wheat, etc are full of it and are strict no-no’s.

I’m not doubting your word, but I would like to hear more about this. Glucose is blood sugar, and I’m wondering how someone could be glucose intolerant.  How does she get energy to her cells? I’ve heard of lactose intolerance… JeffMo

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Hmmm… This is a rather odd claim.  Glucose intolerance is a measure of how quickly or not blood sugar (which is glucose) falls under a certain amount after resp. 30, 60 then 90 minutes. If the amount of glucose in the blood remains high, you have glucose intolerance, since your body is (probably) not producing insulin in sufficient quantities to deal with the glucose.  Diabetes is the most common disease that causes this, but there are several others (problems with metabolizing chromium, reactions to diuretics, polycystic ovaries…) Please get the facts from her doctor before you try to brew up something special. It’s a really sweet thing to do for her, but it is also likely she will be discouraged from having alcohol. In any case, the grains all contain virtually no sugar, but chiefly starches, The trick with the whole beer making process is to trigger enzymes that break the starches up into sugars (glucose and  maltose are the major ones) and then let your yeast devour that, returning just alcohol. The glucose content of beer should be fairly minimal under most circumstances. Managing the glucose content of the beer is moot. Glucose intolerance is measured as part of an overall evaluation of insulin sensitivity, so avoiding glucose is not necessary. Finding out what is causing her condition is what’s important here. Cheers, — J – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Now there are two words the average beer drinker hates to hear, but alas my girlfriend is glucose intolerant. I’m wondering if someone might have a beer recipe that would be glucose free? Maybe something made from rice? Seems barley, wheat, etc are full of it and are strict no-no’s. — Jim

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Now there are two words the average beer drinker hates to hear, but alas my girlfriend is glucose intolerant. I’m wondering if someone might have a beer recipe that would be glucose free? Maybe something made from rice? Seems barley, wheat, etc are full of it and are strict no-no’s. — Jim

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