I need some advice . . .
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I’ve been lc-ing since Dec. 1st 2003.
If you’re on Atkins that’s Induction. You should not have stepped on the scale at all yet. Strictly counting carbs <20 net carbs per day.
If you’re on Atkins move on to OWL. A fair number don’t lose with carbs that low. Less is not more, that’s the single most important idea of Atkins. I’ve been using fiday to track my calories (amount and distribution). I typically have about 2200 calories per day. 75% from fat, 22% protein and 3% carb.
That’s a lot of calories. Stay at home mom with a 3yr old and a 1yr old. No formal excercise program, yet.
Chasing the kids is exercise.
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Hi Amy I’ve been lc-ing since Dec. 1st 2003. Strictly counting carbs <20 net carbs per day. Eating only meat, eggs, some cheese, some pecans, 2-3 cups salad/day(or 1 c. vegi’s). Lots of mayo, ranch dressing, and butter. About 10 c. water per day and Atkins #3 basic supplement. No coffee, booze (actually just stopped coffee [1 cup/day] today).
Apart from the advice others have already given, I want to ask if you drink diet sodas or something else with splenda, aspartame etc? They can stall some people, as coffee can, apparently. Good luck with the weighloss. Ina 213/172/154 since 8/15/03 www.skreee.de
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says… I’ve been lc-ing since Dec. 1st 2003. If you’re on Atkins that’s Induction. You should not have stepped on the scale at all yet.
Where do you get that? I’m pretty sure it’s not part of the Rules of Induction. The timetable for stepping on the scale is up to the individual. I’ve stepped on the scale every single day since starting this WOE. — Saffire 205/179/125 Atkins since 6/14/03 Progress photo: http://photos.yahoo.com/saffire333
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I’ve been lc-ing since Dec. 1st 2003. If you’re on Atkins that’s Induction. You should not have stepped on the scale at all yet. Where do you get that? I’m pretty sure it’s not part of the Rules of Induction.
Dr A does mention avoiding the scale in at least one edition, but I got it from reading many posts each and every day from newbies who have made that mistake and freaked out. The timetable for stepping on the scale is up to the individual.
The the chances of getting discouraged and quitting is up to the individual. Stepping on the scale causes more people to quit than any other factor. I have no way to prove that; it’s just an educated guess on my part. But I can’t count the number of people over the years who have stepped onto the scale far too enough, given themselves unrealistic expectations or gotten unrealistic expectations because they don’t know how to tell (water + fat) loss diring Induction from (fat only) loss later, and quit. I’ve stepped on the scale every single day since starting this WOE.
Did you also step on the scale daily before you started? If so that’s fine. Newbies should be told to step on the scale with the same frequency they did before starting. Any more often leads to unfounded emtional trauma like this thread. Don’t step on the scale, don’t create trauma, very simple equation. I understand few will be able to resist weekly weighings, but often it takes advice that is exaggerated to get through to folks. No good ever comes from weighings during Induction. Much harm comes from stepping on the scale during Induction.
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I’ve been using fiday to track my calories (amount and distribution). I typically have about 2200 calories per day. 75% from fat, 22% protein and 3% carb.
You’d have to be eating probably almost 1000 calories less than that before you’d have to worry about "going too low." Your height and body structure come into play too, but dropping 500 calories isn’t going to put you into starvation mode.
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Amy, A couple things spring to mind, most of them having to do with female hormones. Is it possible that you have PCOS? Women with polycystic ovary syndrome may not lose weight on a low carb diet (or any diet) without the help of a medication that reduces insulin resistance. Is it possible that you are about to get your period? This can also stop apparent weight loss for many women because they gain water weight in the weeks before the period. Are you on progesterone supplements (birth control pills, shots?) These can make weight loss very tough. Are you measuring portions to make sure that the portions you are entering in fitday really are the size you think they are. An ounce of cheese is not much cheese, ditto with nuts, so you might be eating more than you think. Contrary to what others wrote, I don’t think 2200 calories is too low for your current weight if that’s what your currently eating. That’s a little less than 10 times your current body weight and you really don’t want to start out lower than that if you can help it. — Jenny Cut the carbs to respond to my new email address! New photo: http://www.geocities.com/jenny_the_bean/jennypics.htm Weight: 168.5/137 Diabetes Type II diagnosed 8/1998 – HBa1c 5.2 10/03 Low Carb 9/1998 – 8/2001 and 11/10/02 – Now http://www.geocities.com/jenny_the_bean How to calculate your need for protein * How much people really lose each month * Water Weight Gain & Loss * The "Two Gram Cure" for Hunger Cravings * Characteristics of Successful Dieters * Indispensible Low Carb Treats * Should You Count that Low Impact Carb? * Curing Ketobreath * Exercise Starting from Zero * Do Starch Blockers Work? * NEW! Why the Low Carb Diet is Great for Diabetes * NEW! Low Carb Strategies for People with Diabetes
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi, I’ve been lc-ing since Dec. 1st 2003. Strictly counting carbs <20 net carbs per day. Eating only meat, eggs, some cheese, some pecans, 2-3 cups salad/day(or 1 c. vegi’s). Lots of mayo, ranch dressing, and butter. About 10 c. water per day and Atkins #3 basic supplement. No coffee, booze (actually just stopped coffee [1 cup/day] today). I’ve been using fiday to track my calories (amount and distribution). I typically have about 2200 calories per day. 75% from fat, 22% protein and 3% carb. Stay at home mom with a 3yr old and a 1yr old. No formal excercise program, yet. My problem is that the scale really hasn’t budged. 238/238/180. Anybody know what could be going on? Would really appreciate some feedback. Thank you, Amy 238/238/180
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for a night time snack, have a bowl of sugarfree, and carb free jello. I get mine at WalMart in their Great Value brand. ….jenna
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for a night time snack, have a bowl of sugarfree, and carb free jello. I get mine at WalMart in their Great Value brand.
Be aware that sugar free jello PUDDING still has carbs (cornstarch used to thicken it). The gelatine is carb free. — revek aliterate (adjective): able to read but unwilling to do so
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Hey Doug, Thanks for the posts. Yes I admit I do step on too often. My weight fluctuates 2lbs in a day (morning or night). I guess I need that positive reinforcement. Also want to make sure I’m not gaining, which I’m not. My plan now is to stay on induction for at least another week. I am getting encouraging results: I’m down to about 235 (238/235/180). I have heeded everyone’s advice and cut out coffee, nuts, cheese, bacon, nitrite-laden lunchmeats, artificial sweeteners. Thanks, Amy 238/235/180 12/01/03
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’ve been lc-ing since Dec. 1st 2003. If you’re on Atkins that’s Induction. You should not have stepped on the scale at all yet. Strictly counting carbs <20 net carbs per day. If you’re on Atkins move on to OWL. A fair number don’t lose with carbs that low. Less is not more, that’s the single most important idea of Atkins. I’ve been using fiday to track my calories (amount and distribution). I typically have about 2200 calories per day. 75% from fat, 22% protein and 3% carb. That’s a lot of calories. Stay at home mom with a 3yr old and a 1yr old. No formal excercise program, yet. Chasing the kids is exercise.
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says… The timetable for stepping on the scale is up to the individual. The the chances of getting discouraged and quitting is up to the individual. Stepping on the scale causes more people to quit than any other factor. I have no way to prove that; it’s just an educated guess
My weight has fluctuated quite a bit over the last 6 months, partly due to hormones (and I’m not just talking every 28 days). Typically, even if I’ve lost a couple of lbs, over the course of the next week it might go back up 2-3 lbs, then settle back to the lower weight — this could take 10 days. If I didn’t see the lower weight, I might not think I lost anything at ALL and that WOULD discourage me. I’ve stepped on the scale every single day since starting this WOE. Did you also step on the scale daily before you started? If so that’s fine. Newbies should be told to step on the scale with the same frequency they did before starting. Any more often leads to unfounded emtional trauma like this thread. Don’t step on the scale, don’t create trauma, very simple equation.
What if they NEVER stepped on the scale before starting this WOE because they didn’t want to know? That was my usual MO whenever my weight has been high. When my weight is down, I tend to weigh more frequently. I understand few will be able to resist weekly weighings, but often it takes advice that is exaggerated to get through to folks. No good ever comes from weighings during Induction. Much harm comes from stepping on the scale during Induction.
True — it depends on the person. But back to the main point, there is no RULE that you must NOT step on the scale during induction, and people shouldn’t be chastised for doing so as if they’re doing something wrong. It’s advice that may or may not be heeded, but it’s only ADVICE. — Saffire 205/179/125 Atkins since 6/14/03 Progress photo: http://photos.yahoo.com/saffire333
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Just am afraid of going too low. If I cut out 2-3 oz of roasted pecans a day that saves me alot of calories right there. Unfourtunatley, they were my late nite munchies. Guess I’ll have to grab the celery, instead. Thanx again A – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi, I’ve been lc-ing since Dec. 1st 2003. Strictly counting carbs <20 net carbs per day. Eating only meat, eggs, some cheese, some pecans, 2-3 cups salad/day(or 1 c. vegi’s). Lots of mayo, ranch dressing, and butter. About 10 c. water per day and Atkins #3 basic supplement. No coffee, booze (actually just stopped coffee [1 cup/day] today). I’ve been using fiday to track my calories (amount and distribution). I typically have about 2200 calories per day. 75% from fat, 22% protein and 3% carb. Stay at home mom with a 3yr old and a 1yr old. No formal excercise program, yet. My problem is that the scale really hasn’t budged. 238/238/180. Anybody know what could be going on? Would really appreciate some feedback. sounds like too many calories to me. try knocking two or three hundred of them a day off, or start exercising. or both. both would be better.
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Or just skip the late-night munchies all together. You can do it, I did. At first it was hard, but it feels kind of triumphant to just go to bed without eating anything after dinner. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Just am afraid of going too low. If I cut out 2-3 oz of roasted pecans a day that saves me alot of calories right there. Unfourtunatley, they were my late nite munchies. Guess I’ll have to grab the celery, instead. Thanx again A Hi, I’ve been lc-ing since Dec. 1st 2003. Strictly counting carbs <20 net carbs per day. Eating only meat, eggs, some cheese, some pecans, 2-3 cups salad/day(or 1 c. vegi’s). Lots of mayo, ranch dressing, and butter. About 10 c. water per day and Atkins #3 basic supplement. No coffee, booze (actually just stopped coffee [1 cup/day] today). I’ve been using fiday to track my calories (amount and distribution). I typically have about 2200 calories per day. 75% from fat, 22% protein and 3% carb. Stay at home mom with a 3yr old and a 1yr old. No formal excercise program, yet. My problem is that the scale really hasn’t budged. 238/238/180. Anybody know what could be going on? Would really appreciate some feedback. sounds like too many calories to me. try knocking two or three hundred of them a day off, or start exercising. or both. both would be better.
– -Michelle Levin (Luna) http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick http://www.mindspring.com/~designbyluna
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Or just skip the late-night munchies all together. You can do it, I did. At first it was hard, but it feels kind of triumphant to just go to bed without eating anything after dinner. triumphant and I also sleep better. night time eating was a big diet buster for me… i
I sleep better too! Sometimes it takes me a bit longer to fall asleep if I’m a little hungry, but sleeping on a full (or stuffed) stomach meant I’d get some rather disturbing dreams. I feel more refreshed when I wake up if I go to sleep 3 or 4 hours after my last meal. — -Michelle Levin (Luna) http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick http://www.mindspring.com/~designbyluna
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I am trying to be realistic with my portions sizes. (DH is getting me a scale for xmas.)
Ah, I think Jenny may have hit on it. Any chance that your DH can be persuaded to give you your present early? One of the very early things I learned on this WOE is that my eyes and my scale tell a very different story as far as portion size goes. In the beginning I ate far, far too little salad (when I weighed what looked like a reasonable portion of salad, it turned out to be 150g or 160g rather than 200g) and other vegetables and way too much meat (what I would have sworn was 200g turned out to be 300g or even more). More than six months in, I still have to weigh both meat and vegetables and still can’t rely on judging by eye. One day that may come, but it hasn’t yet. — Lexin www.redrosepress.co.uk www.livejournal.com/~lexin LC since 9 June 2003 (300/242/182)
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Hey Jenny, thanks! Great website you have, BTW.. I have cut out cheese and nuts (since yesterday). I’m not at that time of month, and I am not on the pill. I am trying to be realistic with my portions sizes. (DH is getting me a scale for xmas.) PCOS, I don’t think so. Thank you for you input. I’m hanging in. ;) Amy 238/238/180 12/01/03
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Amy, A couple things spring to mind, most of them having to do with female hormones. Is it possible that you have PCOS? Women with polycystic ovary syndrome may not lose weight on a low carb diet (or any diet) without the help of a medication that reduces insulin resistance. Is it possible that you are about to get your period? This can also stop apparent weight loss for many women because they gain water weight in the weeks before the period. Are you on progesterone supplements (birth control pills, shots?) These can make weight loss very tough. Are you measuring portions to make sure that the portions you are entering in fitday really are the size you think they are. An ounce of cheese is not much cheese, ditto with nuts, so you might be eating more than you think. Contrary to what others wrote, I don’t think 2200 calories is too low for your current weight if that’s what your currently eating. That’s a little less than 10 times your current body weight and you really don’t want to start out lower than that if you can help it. — Jenny Cut the carbs to respond to my new email address! New photo: http://www.geocities.com/jenny_the_bean/jennypics.htm Weight: 168.5/137 Diabetes Type II diagnosed 8/1998 – HBa1c 5.2 10/03 Low Carb 9/1998 – 8/2001 and 11/10/02 – Now http://www.geocities.com/jenny_the_bean How to calculate your need for protein * How much people really lose each month * Water Weight Gain & Loss * The "Two Gram Cure" for Hunger Cravings * Characteristics of Successful Dieters * Indispensible Low Carb Treats * Should You Count that Low Impact Carb? * Curing Ketobreath * Exercise Starting from Zero * Do Starch Blockers Work? * NEW! Why the Low Carb Diet is Great for Diabetes * NEW! Low Carb Strategies for People with Diabetes Hi, I’ve been lc-ing since Dec. 1st 2003. Strictly counting carbs <20 net carbs per day. Eating only meat, eggs, some cheese, some pecans, 2-3 cups salad/day(or 1 c. vegi’s). Lots of mayo, ranch dressing, and butter. About 10 c. water per day and Atkins #3 basic supplement. No coffee, booze (actually just stopped coffee [1 cup/day] today). I’ve been using fiday to track my calories (amount and distribution). I typically have about 2200 calories per day. 75% from fat, 22% protein and 3% carb. Stay at home mom with a 3yr old and a 1yr old. No formal excercise program, yet. My problem is that the scale really hasn’t budged. 238/238/180. Anybody know what could be going on? Would really appreciate some feedback. Thank you, Amy 238/238/180
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Just am afraid of going too low. If I cut out 2-3 oz of roasted pecans a day that saves me alot of calories right there. Unfourtunatley, they were my late nite munchies. Guess I’ll have to grab the celery, instead.
you could go as low as 1800 calories a day and it wouldn’t be too low. you can eat quite a bit of food for 1800/day, too – especially if you like veggies. hang in there, Amy. sometimes it takes a bit of tweaking to get the diet into place.
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Thank you! I have been (last couple of days), having more salad and celery and cukes. (With plenty of ranch). I’m hangin’ in for the moment. I will not be easily discouraged. Thanks again, Amy 238/238/180 12/01/03 – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Just am afraid of going too low. If I cut out 2-3 oz of roasted pecans a day that saves me alot of calories right there. Unfourtunatley, they were my late nite munchies. Guess I’ll have to grab the celery, instead. you could go as low as 1800 calories a day and it wouldn’t be too low. you can eat quite a bit of food for 1800/day, too – especially if you like veggies. hang in there, Amy. sometimes it takes a bit of tweaking to get the diet into place.
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Hi, I’ve been lc-ing since Dec. 1st 2003. Strictly counting carbs <20 net carbs per day. Eating only meat, eggs, some cheese, some pecans, 2-3 cups salad/day(or 1 c. vegi’s). Lots of mayo, ranch dressing, and butter. About 10 c. water per day and Atkins #3 basic supplement. No coffee, booze (actually just stopped coffee [1 cup/day] today). I’ve been using fiday to track my calories (amount and distribution). I typically have about 2200 calories per day. 75% from fat, 22% protein and 3% carb. Stay at home mom with a 3yr old and a 1yr old. No formal excercise program, yet. My problem is that the scale really hasn’t budged. 238/238/180. Anybody know what could be going on? Would really appreciate some feedback. Thank you, Amy 238/238/180
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:: I’ve been using fiday to track my calories (amount and :: distribution). I typically have about 2200 calories per day. 75% :: from fat, 22% protein and 3% carb. :: :: Stay at home mom with a 3yr old and a 1yr old. No formal excercise :: program, yet. :: :: My problem is that the scale really hasn’t budged. 238/238/180. :: :: Anybody know what could be going on? :: :: Would really appreciate some feedback. What Queen said…..adjust down until the scales start moving. Try some formal exercise, if possible. But if you can’t, just eat less.
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi, I’ve been lc-ing since Dec. 1st 2003. Strictly counting carbs <20 net carbs per day. Eating only meat, eggs, some cheese, some pecans, 2-3 cups salad/day(or 1 c. vegi’s). Lots of mayo, ranch dressing, and butter. About 10 c. water per day and Atkins #3 basic supplement. No coffee, booze (actually just stopped coffee [1 cup/day] today). I’ve been using fiday to track my calories (amount and distribution). I typically have about 2200 calories per day. 75% from fat, 22% protein and 3% carb. Stay at home mom with a 3yr old and a 1yr old. No formal excercise program, yet. My problem is that the scale really hasn’t budged. 238/238/180. Anybody know what could be going on? Would really appreciate some feedback.
sounds like too many calories to me. try knocking two or three hundred of them a day off, or start exercising. or both. both would be better.
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