Polycystic Ovary Syndrome (PCOS)

anyone else just starting out?

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Does this mean that I should eat a minimum out 2700 calories because I am 270 lbs? Does fiber usually get lumped together with carbs on food lables? I don’t know if I trust that. Please explain it to me. I am only 1/2 way through the Atkin’s diet book. Beth Morrissey – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Here are some of the de facto tips: Eat around 10 – 12 calories per pound that you currently weigh, not your goal weight! Otherwise your body will go into "starvation mode" and you’ll stop losing. Drink at least 64 oz of water a day plus another 8 oz glass for every 25lbs you need to lose; if you don’t have very much to lose, then divide your weight by 2 and drink that many ounces of water. You can subtract fiber grams from carb counts on packages for the *effective* carb count as long as they’re not labeled "low carb," because those manufacturers usually pre-subtract it to make their products look better.

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Does this mean that I should eat a minimum out 2700 calories because I am 270 lbs?

Yes. In "The Ketogenic Diet" Lyle McDonald states "From a maintenance level of 15-16 calories a paound, reducing calories by 20% yileds a calorie intake of 12-13 calories a pound." (p97) He continues later on the same page "…Many diet books and dieters prefer to use a caloric goal based on goal bodyweight (i.e. 12-13 calories per pound of desired bodyweight).  THe problem with this method is that dieters, in their hurry to reach their goals, invariably set bodyweight too low…Therefore, daily calorie levels should be based on current bodyweight." (p97) You can also see him explain it here: http://musclemonthly.com/articles/000801-mcdonald-body-talk.htm And here: (fourth letter down) http://216.150.5.6/exclusive/mcdonald/vol01/981015.htm Cheers, Nina — SlackMistress 2.0 http://www.theslack.com

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Does this mean that I should eat a minimum out 2700 calories because I am 270 lbs? Does fiber usually get lumped together with carbs on food lables? I don’t know if I trust that. Please explain it to me. I am only 1/2 way through the Atkin’s diet book.

Beth, yes that’s true. It seems really weird huh? But it’s true. No calorie cutting unless you stall out! Fiber is always counted as a carbohydrate on food labels. Kind of like the multiple kinds of fat, it just falls under the label "carbo" and is listed as a portion of the entire carb rating. You don’t digest it so you can subtract it from the carbs. BTW neither of these things are mentioned in the Atkins book, at least not to my recollection. The whole fiber subtraction thing (aka Effective Carb Count(ing), or ECC) is from another one of the low-carb plans and the calorie limits are just a fact of life. Keep in mind, eating 12x calories per pound that you are STILL creates a caloric deficit. It’s just not as huge as if you only ate 7x for instance. Bigger caloric deficits won’t particularly increase weight loss beyond an extent because your body will think it’s starving and hold on to every freaking calorie. One person on this NG managed to gain weight on 800 calories a day due to this bodily reaction, if I’m not mistaken. Keep plowing through the book, it’s worth it! Amy

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I went most of my life not eating breakfast and/or lunch not matter how hungry I was. Then I would break down and scarf everything in sight mostly junck food. That’s why I now have type 2 diabeties, hypothyroidism and polycystic ovary syndrom. I am on 3 months medical leave from work. I decided to fight back and start low carbing. My bg’s were about 300 for about 1 1/2 years. Now after 3 weeks LC I’ve knocked almost 100 points off of that. This diet is a blessing and a miricle. I still can’t get past moderate on the keto stix, and only have lost 5 lbs. Carbs are 20 grams/day give or take 5 grams. I haven’t started exercising yet. I still am really tired form the high BG. Thanks, Beth Morrissey – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Does this mean that I should eat a minimum out 2700 calories because I am 270 lbs? Does fiber usually get lumped together with carbs on food lables? I don’t know if I trust that. Please explain it to me. I am only 1/2 way through the Atkin’s diet book. Beth, yes that’s true. It seems really weird huh? But it’s true. No calorie cutting unless you stall out! Fiber is always counted as a carbohydrate on food labels. Kind of like the multiple kinds of fat, it just falls under the label "carbo" and is listed as a portion of the entire carb rating. You don’t digest it so you can subtract it from the carbs. BTW neither of these things are mentioned in the Atkins book, at least not to my recollection. The whole fiber subtraction thing (aka Effective Carb Count(ing), or ECC) is from another one of the low-carb plans and the calorie limits are just a fact of life. Keep in mind, eating 12x calories per pound that you are STILL creates a caloric deficit. It’s just not as huge as if you only ate 7x for instance. Bigger caloric deficits won’t particularly increase weight loss beyond an extent because your body will think it’s starving and hold on to every freaking calorie. One person on this NG managed to gain weight on 800 calories a day due to this bodily reaction, if I’m not mistaken. Keep plowing through the book, it’s worth it! Amy

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hi guys, today is my first full day of this low-carb thing and I’m terribly excited yipeee!!!!!! and I was wondering  if any low-carb veteran has any advice (i know there are thousands of back posts and I’ve read some of them, but there are so many that it’s sort of hard to navigate). I’ve heard that after a few days the ketones are going to make my breath stinky is this true? is there anything I can do about it? also, is it okay that I’m eating an awful lot of cheese? (I know that for long term I should probably stay away from so much saturated fat…but I’m just in the induction…) okay, that’s all for now fun fun fun!!! -l

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Welcome to the world of good health! (Keep reading.)

hi guys, today is my first full day of this low-carb thing and I’m terribly excited yipeee!!!!!! and I was wondering  if any low-carb veteran has any advice (i know there are thousands of back posts and I’ve read some of them, but there are so many that it’s sort of hard to navigate). I’ve heard that after a few days the ketones are going to make my breath stinky is this true? is there anything I can do about it?

Yes. And yes. Drink lots of water (1 oz per day per pound of body weight. If you can’t do the math, drink a gallon per day.) And use a good mouthwash. Brush occasionally too. also, is it okay that I’m eating an awful lot of cheese? (I know that for long term I should probably stay away from so much saturated fat…but I’m just

in the induction…) It’s not the fat, it’s the carbs in the cheese you should watch out for. Get over the idea that fat is bad. Its carbs plus fat that is bad. Fat, by itself, is quite healthy. (At least the natural stuff is. Avoid margerine and Crisco like the plague.) okay, that’s all for now fun fun fun!!!

Good attitude, dood. -Adam Selene (age 45, lost 55 lbs on Atkins. Been on maintenance for over a year.)

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today is my first full day of this low-carb thing and I’m terribly excited yipeee!!!!!!

Yay for you! Welcome I’ve heard that after a few days the ketones are going to make my breath stinky

Not everyone goes into ketosis and/or gets the side effects. I "dieted" LC before, no keto breath, and this time I realize I have to make it my WOL (way of life) — still no keto breath, or any of the other side effects. I never even felt bad when I started. You may not either. also, is it okay that I’m eating an awful lot of cheese? (I know that for long term I should probably stay away from so much saturated fat…but I’m just in the induction…)

Saturated fat is NOT bad for you! At the very worst, it is neutral, because it raises bad cholesterol and good cholesterol, which sweeps bad cholesterol away, equally — creating a net cholesterol gain of ZERO! In meats and other sat fat products that have monounsaturated fat also, you actually get a decrease in bad cholesterol because the monounsaturated fats tip the balance and add even more good cholesterol. However, cheese is carby. One ounce of cheese is 1 gram of carbs. One oz is probably equal to about a tablespoon of shredded cheese — not very much. Dairy also stalls some people. It’s also high in calories but you’re not supposed to worry about calories until/if you start having trouble losing weight. Unless, of course, you’re not eating enough. Here are some of the de facto tips: Eat around 10 – 12 calories per pound that you currently weigh, not your goal weight! Otherwise your body will go into "starvation mode" and you’ll stop losing. Drink at least 64 oz of water a day plus another 8 oz glass for every 25lbs you need to lose; if you don’t have very much to lose, then divide your weight by 2 and drink that many ounces of water. You can subtract fiber grams from carb counts on packages for the *effective* carb count as long as they’re not labeled "low carb," because those manufacturers usually pre-subtract it to make their products look better. That’s about it for now, the rest you’ll pick up as you read along Amy

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